Would the game have sold more if they used slave girl Leia?

[Resolute]

I wonder if they replaced the Kay model with a model of Slave Girl Leia if the game would have sold a lot more.

[Citizen Cook]

Many people play games to experience a fantasy. Hot women and buff dudes sell software. That’s just a fact. Most gamers don’t want to play as ugly, dumpy, fugly people.
Not sure how you can put Kay in a slave Leia outfit and make that work though😄 from a narrative standpoint.

[JIM HELL]

This guy gets it, put him in a position of power. People are tired of devs lecturing their audience and telling them they are bad for what they want.

[Sticky Wicket]

I hope not and would have ZERO interest in supporting such a thing.

[Joann Sheridan]

Originally posted by Sticky Wicket:

I hope not and would have ZERO interest in supporting such a thing.

Fun fact:
Carrie Fisher strongly disliked being forced to wear such a revealing costume. She took some satisfaction in killing Jabba who had forced her to wear that outfit. Well - actually it was George Lucas.... but I guess Jabba had to do.

https://www.looper.com/1104730/carrie-fisher-once-gave-her-unfiltered-thoughts-on-that-controversial-slave-leia-costume/

I personally like Kay just the way she is.

[Sugam]

The Kay model was based on a actual beautiful IRL person, but politic agenda's got in the way and the person behind it just had to add their own touch to it. If its one thing I learn in the industry from disturbed female artists: When it comes to beautiful female characters, they will make them ugly OR to look just like themselves just like in what happened in spider man.

The normal/majority of gamers have seen enough of this and are simply tired of putting up with it.

Just make a fun and interesting game with interesting characters without any of these studios politics bleed into it? Why is that such a bad thing to just ask for a fun game to escape real life for a moment?

[Joann Sheridan]

Originally posted by Sugam:

The Kay model was based on a actual beautiful IRL person, but politic agenda's got in the way and the person behind it just had to add their own touch to it.

Kays visual appearence is NOT based on Humberly - she did the voice and motion acting (and did a fantastic job).

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Humberly González is the actress who played Kay Vess, the protagonist of the 2024 video game Star Wars Outlaws. Born and raised in Venezuela and living in Canada, González believes that her character's story of an underprivileged person who had the resilience, charisma, passion, and strength to keep moving forward reflect the experiences of the Venezuelan people. González also hoped that Vess, showing her heart and vulnerability—the "kinks in the armor"—while being a strong female protagonist would inspire other women, and particularly appreciated that Outlaws gave her a chance to be the leading woman.
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Source:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Humberly_Gonz%C3%A1lez#cite_note-BWT_interview-4

[Mick Savage]

Like Sugam said they made her ugly on purpose, the actual model is beautiful and I know the tech exists to make NPCs look exactly like the models, they did this on purpose. So it wouldn't be necessary to replace her with Leia.

That said I strongly feel if they went with Han and Chewie, then put a little more effort into the open world, this game would have made millions.

[Citizen Cook]

Originally posted by Joann Sheridan:

Originally posted by Sugam:

The Kay model was based on a actual beautiful IRL person, but politic agenda's got in the way and the person behind it just had to add their own touch to it.

Kays visual appearence is NOT based on Humberly - she did the voice and motion acting (and did a fantastic job).

>>
Humberly González is the actress who played Kay Vess, the protagonist of the 2024 video game Star Wars Outlaws. Born and raised in Venezuela and living in Canada, González believes that her character's story of an underprivileged person who had the resilience, charisma, passion, and strength to keep moving forward reflect the experiences of the Venezuelan people. González also hoped that Vess, showing her heart and vulnerability—the "kinks in the armor"—while being a strong female protagonist would inspire other women, and particularly appreciated that Outlaws gave her a chance to be the leading woman.
<<
Source:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Humberly_Gonz%C3%A1lez#cite_note-BWT_interview-4

Why not hire a fugly actress then and put the dots on her face instead of hiring a beautiful actress and then not use her face or acting performance, only her voice and body performance? It literally makes no sense. In other productions like Uncharted and tomb raider the actors do everything. Ubisoft’s way is counterproductive and speaks to a mid development artistic change.

[Sparhawk122]

Originally posted by Resolute:

Would the game have sold more if they used slave girl Leia?

Yes.

[Sticky Wicket]

Originally posted by Joann Sheridan:

Originally posted by Sticky Wicket:

I hope not and would have ZERO interest in supporting such a thing.

Fun fact:
Carrie Fisher strongly disliked being forced to wear such a revealing costume. She took some satisfaction in killing Jabba who had forced her to wear that outfit. Well - actually it was George Lucas.... but I guess Jabba had to do.

https://www.looper.com/1104730/carrie-fisher-once-gave-her-unfiltered-thoughts-on-that-controversial-slave-leia-costume/

I personally like Kay just the way she is.

Absolutely. Well said.

I was also going to add that Carrie Fisher detested the whole *slave-girl metal bikini* rubbish, she said so many times in interviews.

I also like Kay exactly as she is...one of the positive points of the game.

[AHTF´184]

I cant understand how you can define Kay as "ugly". I would say normal/cute. Sure she is "ugly" in a baywatch comparision... but what the heck.

[Sticky Wicket]

Originally posted by AHTF´184:

I cant understand how you can define Kay as "ugly". I would say normal/cute. Sure she is "ugly" in a baywatch comparision... but what the heck.

...and that is exactly the problem here. Some ridiculous narrow minded expectation from some that the main protagonist should be some kind of Florida beach-walker when her character clearly isn't (and would be wildly inappropriate if that were the intention).

[Mick Savage]

Originally posted by AHTF´184:

I cant understand how you can define Kay as "ugly". I would say normal/cute. Sure she is "ugly" in a baywatch comparision... but what the heck.

Compare the actual person too the NPC character, and it's obvious the NPC is freaking ugly.

[bunny de fluff]

Would you still buy the game if you can replace Kay with any other female body using mods? No? Then the problem is not solely the ugly woman. It's the game.

[chorion]

Originally posted by Resolute:

I wonder if they replaced the Kay model with a model of Slave Girl Leia if the game would have sold a lot more.

She would have looked like leia the HUTT