It's so bad, why bother with Denuvo

[TAKEDA 🔴 SHINGEN]

This is one of those rare, rare games where the only way most people would touch it is if it didn’t have Denuvo and someone cracked it — just so they could try it out, get bored out of their skulls, and never finish it.

I can’t believe the same company that gave us Assassin’s Creed II and Ghost Recon Wildlands has managed to flush out something so hideous. It’s like they took everything they once knew about making good games, set it on fire, and then scraped the ashes into this soulless husk. Bravo, Ubisoft. You’ve truly outdone yourselves — at plumbing the depths of mediocrity.

[Zaphre]

Because they already payed for it, and if you are here crying about it, denuvo is clearly doing its job.

And companies don't make games, developers do. Talented people are long gone from ubisoft. Most of the labour in ubisoft now is the cheapest you can get.

As an exemple, most of the people that were responsible for AC Shadows were first time developers, which means that AC Shadows was their first professional game developer gig.

Stop putting companies in pedestals, it's this behaviour that got us where we are today.

[Starbug]

Spoken like someone who has never played the game yet decided to embarrass himself on its forum.

[Sparhawk122]

Denuvo does not matter in this instance as you said OP. I would not even play this game for free. And it seems most people agree considering it flopped.

[Joann Sheridan]

I never cared or played Ghost Recon Wildlands.
The same is true for most of the Assassin’s Creed series. Besides Odyssey - which I liked very much - they didn't appeal to me. I totally forgot to complain on the Game forum though... maybe I should?

OTH, I enjoy Star Wars Outlaws very much. It is fun to play and I adore Kay/Nix. Humberly did a great job bringing Kay to life with her personal touch.

So why complain? If you don't like SWO, just move on and play something you do.

[EricHVela]

Different games appeal to different people differently. Times change whether we want them to change or not. Either we go kicking and screaming with it dragging us wherever it wants to go, or we accept that change is happening and work with it to have at least a little say where we end up. It all comes down to recognizing what we can control.

We get no say on who develops what games, and games from the same companies can be wildly different that we expect. I have no choice but to take each game on its own merits.

This game has merit, but for me, it's less than what I'd hope for a Star Wars game. That has nothing to do with AC2 (a game I liked) or GRW (a game I never had any interest in playing). That was then. This is now.

As for Denuvo, it's just pointless scamware.

People trying to invent scare tactics just ends up making people accept the snake-oil even more. It's not able to be spyware since it doesn't have the right kind of system access. Since it only watches for code alteration, it doesn't stop override mods, which are the primary methods of mods. For me and everyone I know, it doesn't affect performance since games that patched out Denuvo didn't see any performance improvement.

Yet...

The fact that they keep relaxing their restrictions tells me that their net was too wide and grabbing too many legitimate players. It still can grab legitimate outlier players such as one person I know who didn't activate a game before heading out to a research platform in the Indian Ocean. Dunno why any collateral is acceptable to Denuvo.

It doesn't work. Day 1 cracks appear. It almost seems like there are people out there who'd rather pay for games without DRM while cracking games with DRM just out of some kind of twisted principle.

Developers have an extra step to perform when updating code in the game to prevent Denuvo from thinking the game code was altered without authorization. Given how some developers patch out Denuvo, it seems that developers who want to support their games for a longer time with ease will remove Denuvo after a certain period. That suggests they didn't even want it.

Denuvo appeared at the height of the piracy scare and sold its shiny wares to luddite and non-gamer executives, promising improved sales for executive pocketbooks which only ended up in Denuvo pocketbooks instead. It looks like Denuvo may have been spearheading the scare. Companies might have sold away their souls to Denuvo out of drummed up duress. (The symptoms mimic another sutation. Look at what it took to end EA's LucasArts exclusivity despite public disappointment from LucasArts and an outright threat from Disney. The contract had to expire before anyone else could publish a licensed game. Others were able to start development before the expiration if they didn't release until after, which told EA they were not getting a continuation on the exclusivity deal. Some contracts are meant to protect businesses and customers, but some contracts are downright diabolical. EA's seem to be of the latter kind.)

It's essentially a waste of bytes.

Yet, our choices are this: Let companies keep giving their income to Denuvo for the snake-oil or deny ourselves a game that won't have any effect on Denuvo at all. All the rest is beyond our control. No forum prophets are going to change that.

[TAKEDA 🔴 SHINGEN]

Guys, I don't give a f--k about Denuvo, learn to f-ing read. This is my comment and it is relevant in the grand scheme of thing. I don't give a f--k that it bothers you or not, it feeds the matrix/algorithm as to how bad this game is. That's all I want, to add my negative critic of this game out there so this game get the rep it deserves and save people (even if it's one person) from buying this game.

[HorzaEdeo]

bye then

[EricHVela]

The review system is thataway.

Oh? Not a Steam-owner? Well, too bad. The forums don't do anything for reviews any more than forum prophets do for Denuvo. If you refunded, you shoulda reviewed first. If you never got it on Steam in the first place, oh well.

[TAKEDA 🔴 SHINGEN]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

The forums don't do anything for reviews

No sh-t Sherlock, read again.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Zaphre:

denuvo is clearly doing its job.

Word of mouth along with the generic ubisoft formula, sprinkled with incurable greed is what's doing its job.

[bunny de fluff]

Since I'm not buying, why this game only implement one denuvo? They should 3 or 4 different versions of anti piracy software into it, I mean the game is so good there must be so many people waiting to pirate it, right?

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Since I'm not buying, why this game only implement one denuvo? They should 3 or 4 different versions of anti piracy software into it, I mean the game is so good there must be so many people waiting to pirate it, right?

Pretty sure if you just wait long enough there will be some decent sales. Let the early adopters and Day 1 people pay the highest price for the most buggy version so everyone else can get a better game for less later on.

Denuvo only punishes the people who give ubisoft money, imagine willfully paying for them to put malware on your machine. This game is off my radar until it's in the 14.99 or less range.

[AquaryusDelights]

Originally posted by Starbug:

Spoken like someone who has never played the game yet decided to embarrass himself on its forum.

Spoken like someone who likes to pretend youtube does not exist and decided to embarrass themselves on a public forum.

[bunny de fluff]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Since I'm not buying, why this game only implement one denuvo? They should 3 or 4 different versions of anti piracy software into it, I mean the game is so good there must be so many people waiting to pirate it, right?

Pretty sure if you just wait long enough there will be some decent sales. Let the early adopters and Day 1 people pay the highest price for the most buggy version so everyone else can get a better game for less later on.

Denuvo only punishes the people who give ubisoft money, imagine willfully paying for them to put malware on your machine. This game is off my radar until it's in the 14.99 or less range.

If you don't mind buying the game when it's on sale while it still has denuvo, then denuvo is not the problem. The problem is the price. Would you play the game for free if it requires 5 different kinds of denuvo to protect it? You would not? Then the problem is the game sucks.

[Starbug]

Originally posted by AquaryusDelights:

Originally posted by Starbug:

Spoken like someone who has never played the game yet decided to embarrass himself on its forum.

Spoken like someone who likes to pretend youtube does not exist and decided to embarrass themselves on a public forum.

One day you'll form your own opinions about life, the world and games. Without needing internet influencers, Facebook friends or right wing billionaires on twitter to tell you what to think! You can do it!