REQUIRES ONLINE CONNECTION TO PLAY

[Jamie]

Unplug your internet (pretend theirs a internet outage) restart your computer and try to play ANY game on Ubisoft Connect or EA App. (used to be fine with Origin/UPlay) they REMOVED Offline mode. Whats the point of a Offline mode if you still have to sign in? Why isnt their alot of outrage over this? Dont ask questions just consoooooooooooooooom

[^;..;^ | ViralOmega]

This is always the problem with anti-consumer DRM. Everyone claims it doesnt bother them until the developer abandons the game years later after never removing Denuvo or if they want to go offline like on a Steam Deck for example. This real issue always gets lost in the no longer true "DENUVO impacts performance" argument.

[Jamie]

Originally posted by ^..^ | ViralOmega:

This is always the problem with anti-consumer DRM. Everyone claims it doesnt bother them until the developer abandons the game years later after never removing Denuvo or if they want to go offline like on a Steam Deck for example. This real issue always gets lost in the no longer true "DENUVO impacts performance" argument.

But Denuvo DOES impact performance lol. Im not having that debate right now theirs plenty of youtube videos that provide proof to that. 1 being Resident Evil 4 for starters. is just the newest game.

[carried by devs]

♥♥♥♥♥♥ games always have denuvo

[pit-s]

@OP
Yep, thats the reason why I dont buy their games (only exception is, or rather was The Division 2 (before they ruined that too with its latest update)).
Btw Steam has a increasingly (I guess) similar problem where some purely SP games are only playable for 2 weeks without a connection to steam (Ultimate Admirals Dreadnought is an example for that).

I guess many do not care about things like that bc they cant imagine or never experienced internet being not available (for whatever reason).

Another thing is its hard to keep track of all the outrageous things UBI does these days (the 'newest' that got traction lately is the 'forced to buy a DLC or start your game from scratch' in the "Avatar" game).

[Jamie]

Originally posted by pit-s:

@OP
Yep, thats the reason why I dont buy their games (only exception is, or rather was The Division 2 (before they ruined that too with its latest update)).
Btw Steam has a increasingly (I guess) similar problem where some purely SP games are only playable for 2 weeks without a connection to steam (Ultimate Admirals Dreadnought is an example for that).

I guess many do not care about things like that bc they cant imagine or never experienced internet being not available (for whatever reason).

Another thing is its hard to keep track of all the outrageous things UBI does these days (the 'newest' that got traction lately is the 'forced to buy a DLC or start your game from scratch' in the "Avatar" game).

im pretty sure these companys are forcing online only even for games as old as Dragon age Origins and Splinter Cell is soley for Denuvo checks. My friend told me because Denuvo needs internet to constantly ping your computer every X amoutn of minutes to make sure its legit.

[EricHVela]

Denuvo + Steam login + Ubi login + the majority of positive reviews stating it's an okay game but not not worth $70 (and it's on 25% sale right now)...

Been looking forward to something Star Wars, but this is putting me off. Oh well.

I guess I'll have to wait for Quantic Dream's QTE-laden game (if they're still working on it... site's still up but the silence is deafening). I liked Detroit: Become Human well enough. I don't know how well that format will translate to Star Wars, though. It doesn't quite match what I imagine of a game when someone mentions Star Wars to me.

[Jamie]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Denuvo + Steam login + Ubi login + the majority of positive reviews stating it's an okay game but not not worth $70 (and it's on 25% sale right now)...

Been looking forward to something Star Wars, but this is putting me off. Oh well.

I guess I'll have to wait for Quantic Dream's QTE-laden game (if they're still working on it... site's still up but the silence is deafening). I liked Detroit: Become Human well enough. I don't know how well that format will translate to Star Wars, though. It doesn't quite match what I imagine of a game when someone mentions Star Wars to me.

The Force Unleashed 1 & Republic Commando (TFU:2 should be pulled off the store its completely broken) are good.

[pit-s]

Originally posted by Jamie:

im pretty sure these companys are forcing online only even for games as old as Dragon age Origins and Splinter Cell is soley for Denuvo checks. My friend told me because Denuvo needs internet to constantly ping your computer every X amoutn of minutes to make sure its legit.

Installed DA Origins, shut down steam, disconnected from internet (physically), started steam in offline mode, started DA Origins, refused steam the permission to change something, accepted the user agreement, changed my graphics settings, loaded into the game and could start it without an issue.

But I bought it years ago ... I guess you cant play it offline if you got it via the 'EA Play'-sub.

Whats also news to me is that it ever had Denuvo - but even if that were true: Denuvo is a kinda subscription like service, the cheapest variant is 25k $ per month (and per specific title) + 50 cent per sold copy.
Thats why they never not drop it at some point (at least for single player titles) bc there is no point in keeping it if sales (including DLC/MTX) do not cover the costs + some profits anymore.

Dont get me wrong, I hate the forced online (or 'only for a limited time offline') crap as much as you do but I think you look in the wrong direction in your search for the perp. ;)

[Jamie]

Originally posted by pit-s:

Originally posted by Jamie:

im pretty sure these companys are forcing online only even for games as old as Dragon age Origins and Splinter Cell is soley for Denuvo checks. My friend told me because Denuvo needs internet to constantly ping your computer every X amoutn of minutes to make sure its legit.

Installed DA Origins, shut down steam, disconnected from internet (physically), started steam in offline mode, started DA Origins, refused steam the permission to change something, accepted the user agreement, changed my graphics settings, loaded into the game and could start it without an issue.

But I bought it years ago ... I guess you cant play it offline if you got it via the 'EA Play'-sub.

Whats also news to me is that it ever had Denuvo - but even if that were true: Denuvo is a kinda subscription like service, the cheapest variant is 25k $ per month (and per specific title) + 50 cent per sold copy.
Thats why they never not drop it at some point (at least for single player titles) bc there is no point in keeping it if sales (including DLC/MTX) do not cover the costs + some profits anymore.

Dont get me wrong, I hate the forced online (or 'only for a limited time offline') crap as much as you do but I think you look in the wrong direction in your search for the perp. ;)

Dragon Age Origins on Steam does not require EA App to run. Now if you have bought it on the EA App, like Mass Effect, you do need it. Mass Effect 1,2,3 and Legendary Edition ALLLLLLLLLL require Online Connection to play. its disgusting.

[pit-s]

Originally posted by Jamie:

Dragon Age Origins on Steam does not require EA App to run.
Now if you have bought it on the EA App, like Mass Effect, you do need it. Mass Effect 1,2,3 and Legendary Edition ALLLLLLLLLL require Online Connection to play. its disgusting.

Yep, it is.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 on steam also do not require it but ME 3 does as well as, as you said, the Legendary Ed.
Bc of that requirement I never bought ME 3 or the Legendary Edition, no matter how many percent I could save in a sale - I would'nt even take it for free bc of that.

Also: I would never buy anything on the EA storefront or use their subscription service. ^^