What settings to turn down for constant 60 fps?

[TCG1]

I have a laptop with a GTX 1060 6 GB, i7 8750h and 16 gb of ram. the game starts to drop down to around 40 fps as soon as I have like 4 vehicles on Utah map. I think every setting is maxed, I don't know which ones to turn down, but I want 60 fps constant. Windows Game Bar is off, and yes, it is using the GTX 1060 and not the integrated grahics. Power plan is on high performance. Any ideas what I need to turn off? I also have RTSS and afterburner on, is that causing the problem? I don't have any mods installed

[Midnight]

Originally posted by I actually beat a nerd to death.:

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Not every PC can run CSGO, but I know its super easy to run. my internet is trash, so I don't know why it would run that good then. And why are you saying I'm decreasing the lifespan of my card? It's literally made for that, I check my temps and make sure it stays cool and with the fan boost on it stays below 80 C, so it's not overheating

Just because it isn't overheating dosn't mean your not wearing it out. You'll melt the cards sodders over time, and cores will fail, and eventually your card will just refuse to work. This is even worse on laptops, when they are thin, and have no room for air to move around.

For example go heat up a knife, stick it in some cold water, and do it over and over again. Eventually the knife will break, or bend, or loose its sharpness. Thats pretty much the same effect for your computer parts, minus the water for cooling. But the point remains, you heat your system up, it cools down when you are done, and the cycle repeats until something fails.

if you o v e r h e a t the knife to red hot temps and do that yeah itll break, but if you make it w a r m it wont.
it sure is amazing that my trucks engine warms up from -50 C in the winter, to 95 C and then back to - 50 C every day multiple times in the winter for years and the engine hasnt cracked or stopped working.
anyways theres a working temp for everything and itll be just fine. and yeah itll wear out over time but so will your door knobs but is that gonna stop you from opening/closing your door? everything wears out from top fuel funny cars pushing 11 thousand horsepower to your grandmas little datsun with 50 HP. one will just wear out faster.

[Los.Injurus.Bob.Blunderton]

Reflections are a killer to performance. Turn those off or leave them on LOW. They raise 'draw calls' substantially, which are done by the CPU as it tells the GPU to render things, thousands of time per frame, dozens of frames a second. So make sure to put them off or on low when running multiple vehicles. Anything lower than an RX 470 or GTX 1060 6gb should not use them at 1080p also.
SSAO can also hurt performance on borderline cards, it's only a shadow enhancement and you won't notice much unless you're sitting still admiring the scenery.
Anti-aliasing again is hard to notice unless sitting still, sometimes you can gain a few FPS by turning this off.
Run up to 3 or 4 vehicles and try not to go over that on a laptop.
Mesh details won't always hurt much unless you have a low-end GPU or a very bad CPU.

Laptop processors don't have the sustained power rating that desktops do, generally speaking, and hence-forth lower sustained clockspeed. Expect to only run 1 vehicle per every core (not counting hyper-threaded cores!) you have on a laptop, where a desktop can run two to three vehicles per core and still have full motion (20fps or better). I can run an average of 2 to 2.5 vehicles per core here on this Ryzen 7 3700x with bargain-bin 3000mhz memory, so it should be a good baseline for comparison to other Ryzen systems. A laptop might only be able to do 1 vehicle per core because the GHZ speed on 'all core turbo boost' isn't as high as the desktop counterparts. There's nothing you can do about this, other than run the game on a desktop.
Otherwise, the machine is fine - with four vehicles or less. Using that fourth vehicle causes the cpu to have to do physics, draw calls for the rendering engine, and all the background Windows tasks (even the web browser if it's open), all without a spare core free to put it on, so that fourth vehicle will cause FPS to drop, and that is normal for a 4 core 8 thread CPU.
Youtube folks who do car crashes usually use a 7980XE 18-core processor or something close to that, which can run a bunch of vehicles. Sometimes they record at half or quarter-speed as needed and work the rest of the magic up to speed in video editing later. Sometimes it can be done at full speed, but not always.

This game is best enjoyed on a desktop. That being said, if you must be portable, then you'll have to make reservations with yourself that it's not going to be as good as a desktop will be at running this game. That's okay. Be happy if you get 40fps in this game on a laptop, as most folks don't get that on their laptops.
If you really want to run this well, buy at-least a Ryzen 3700X processor, 16gb of RAM, and anything from a GTX 1060 6gb / Radeon RX 480/570 8gb card and up. Then you can enjoy 15~16 vehicles with no issue up to around 20~21 vehicles (depending on the map) in play at once with traffic on.

[Moon Truther]

Originally posted by Beamng.mapper.Bob.Blunderton:

Reflections are a killer to performance. Turn those off or leave them on LOW. They raise 'draw calls' substantially, which are done by the CPU as it tells the GPU to render things, thousands of time per frame, dozens of frames a second. So make sure to put them off or on low when running multiple vehicles. Anything lower than an RX 470 or GTX 1060 6gb should not use them at 1080p also.
SSAO can also hurt performance on borderline cards, it's only a shadow enhancement and you won't notice much unless you're sitting still admiring the scenery.
Anti-aliasing again is hard to notice unless sitting still, sometimes you can gain a few FPS by turning this off.
Run up to 3 or 4 vehicles and try not to go over that on a laptop.
Mesh details won't always hurt much unless you have a low-end GPU or a very bad CPU.

Laptop processors don't have the sustained power rating that desktops do, generally speaking, and hence-forth lower sustained clockspeed. Expect to only run 1 vehicle per every core (not counting hyper-threaded cores!) you have on a laptop, where a desktop can run two to three vehicles per core and still have full motion (20fps or better). I can run an average of 2 to 2.5 vehicles per core here on this Ryzen 7 3700x with bargain-bin 3000mhz memory, so it should be a good baseline for comparison to other Ryzen systems. A laptop might only be able to do 1 vehicle per core because the GHZ speed on 'all core turbo boost' isn't as high as the desktop counterparts. There's nothing you can do about this, other than run the game on a desktop.
Otherwise, the machine is fine - with four vehicles or less. Using that fourth vehicle causes the cpu to have to do physics, draw calls for the rendering engine, and all the background Windows tasks (even the web browser if it's open), all without a spare core free to put it on, so that fourth vehicle will cause FPS to drop, and that is normal for a 4 core 8 thread CPU.
Youtube folks who do car crashes usually use a 7980XE 18-core processor or something close to that, which can run a bunch of vehicles. Sometimes they record at half or quarter-speed as needed and work the rest of the magic up to speed in video editing later. Sometimes it can be done at full speed, but not always.

This game is best enjoyed on a desktop. That being said, if you must be portable, then you'll have to make reservations with yourself that it's not going to be as good as a desktop will be at running this game. That's okay. Be happy if you get 40fps in this game on a laptop, as most folks don't get that on their laptops.
If you really want to run this well, buy at-least a Ryzen 3700X processor, 16gb of RAM, and anything from a GTX 1060 6gb / Radeon RX 480/570 8gb card and up. Then you can enjoy 15~16 vehicles with no issue up to around 20~21 vehicles (depending on the map) in play at once with traffic on.

Well said.

[TCG1]

Originally posted by Beamng.mapper.Bob.Blunderton:

Reflections are a killer to performance. Turn those off or leave them on LOW. They raise 'draw calls' substantially, which are done by the CPU as it tells the GPU to render things, thousands of time per frame, dozens of frames a second. So make sure to put them off or on low when running multiple vehicles. Anything lower than an RX 470 or GTX 1060 6gb should not use them at 1080p also.
SSAO can also hurt performance on borderline cards, it's only a shadow enhancement and you won't notice much unless you're sitting still admiring the scenery.
Anti-aliasing again is hard to notice unless sitting still, sometimes you can gain a few FPS by turning this off.
Run up to 3 or 4 vehicles and try not to go over that on a laptop.
Mesh details won't always hurt much unless you have a low-end GPU or a very bad CPU.

Laptop processors don't have the sustained power rating that desktops do, generally speaking, and hence-forth lower sustained clockspeed. Expect to only run 1 vehicle per every core (not counting hyper-threaded cores!) you have on a laptop, where a desktop can run two to three vehicles per core and still have full motion (20fps or better). I can run an average of 2 to 2.5 vehicles per core here on this Ryzen 7 3700x with bargain-bin 3000mhz memory, so it should be a good baseline for comparison to other Ryzen systems. A laptop might only be able to do 1 vehicle per core because the GHZ speed on 'all core turbo boost' isn't as high as the desktop counterparts. There's nothing you can do about this, other than run the game on a desktop.
Otherwise, the machine is fine - with four vehicles or less. Using that fourth vehicle causes the cpu to have to do physics, draw calls for the rendering engine, and all the background Windows tasks (even the web browser if it's open), all without a spare core free to put it on, so that fourth vehicle will cause FPS to drop, and that is normal for a 4 core 8 thread CPU.
Youtube folks who do car crashes usually use a 7980XE 18-core processor or something close to that, which can run a bunch of vehicles. Sometimes they record at half or quarter-speed as needed and work the rest of the magic up to speed in video editing later. Sometimes it can be done at full speed, but not always.

This game is best enjoyed on a desktop. That being said, if you must be portable, then you'll have to make reservations with yourself that it's not going to be as good as a desktop will be at running this game. That's okay. Be happy if you get 40fps in this game on a laptop, as most folks don't get that on their laptops.
If you really want to run this well, buy at-least a Ryzen 3700X processor, 16gb of RAM, and anything from a GTX 1060 6gb / Radeon RX 480/570 8gb card and up. Then you can enjoy 15~16 vehicles with no issue up to around 20~21 vehicles (depending on the map) in play at once with traffic on.

Thanks, although my cpu isn't 4 core 8 thread but rather 6 core 12 threads. I undervolted it also and it runs at 3.9 GHz while gaming. With that said, I have a question. Would I have a better time playing Wreckfest with this setup? Don't get me wrong, I love BeamNG and it's a great game even though I'm a noob at it, but if you say that I shouldn't really play on a laptop then maybe I would have a better time on this other game.

[I am Groot]

Originally posted by I actually beat a nerd to death.:

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Says a guy who calls himself Hot male lol, i bet you had to look the meaning up too buttercup...

You are a horrible troll, i quoted something that hot male anthro said, and you attacked me. Or are you just attacking everybody? Theres a solid chance your a facebook dwelling boomer, just based off your profile name and picture. Go back there, for the love of god.

I have NO idea what the hell you are on about, at no time did i attack anyone or troll anyone except to reply to HOTMALE who called YOU pretentious. maybe you need to learn to read better because i was actually sticking up for you, but hay why even bother.

[I am Groot]

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Originally posted by I am Groot:

GTX 1060 IS low seriously, physics is a killer and your whole setup GPU and CPU ARE low, thats not people being nasty its just the truth and any laptop version of a standalone PC part is always crippled to some extent. Have you tried changing your physics to running off your CPU it could just give you a few more fps. But defending the indefensible is just silly i wouldnt believe anything on Youtube either 90% of those are fake.

If my setup is considered low end, then what's considered high end? A 1060 retails for around 400 dollars CAD, and some people built PCs for 400 bucks that are as powerful as consoles, so there's no way my laptop is "low-end" . I know, it's worse than the RTX series, but the RTX series are high-end cards that are expensive, and game devs know that most people don't have an RTX 2080, and they make their games able to run on the most popular cards. In fact, the 1060 is the most used card on steam, take a look: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
If you say that's low end, then most Steam users have a "low-end" setup by your standards. I don't need to game at 4k ultra settings 144 fps, all I need is 1080p 60 fps with the highest settings I can use.

Yes, I'm sorry but a 1060 is low end. a 1070 is low middle, a 1080 is middle/ high a 2070 is high and a 2080 is high/ultra then you have TI versions s0 a 2080TI is ultra. You can build a PC for thousands now so yeah 400 is low end, 1080p is low end 2k is middle, 4k is high end etc, todays consoles are all in the low to med category pretty much all console games are low res textures and run at 30 fps.

[TCG1]

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

If my setup is considered low end, then what's considered high end? A 1060 retails for around 400 dollars CAD, and some people built PCs for 400 bucks that are as powerful as consoles, so there's no way my laptop is "low-end" . I know, it's worse than the RTX series, but the RTX series are high-end cards that are expensive, and game devs know that most people don't have an RTX 2080, and they make their games able to run on the most popular cards. In fact, the 1060 is the most used card on steam, take a look: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
If you say that's low end, then most Steam users have a "low-end" setup by your standards. I don't need to game at 4k ultra settings 144 fps, all I need is 1080p 60 fps with the highest settings I can use.

Yes, I'm sorry but a 1060 is low end. a 1070 is low middle, a 1080 is middle/ high a 2070 is high and a 2080 is high/ultra then you have TI versions s0 a 2080TI is ultra. You can build a PC for thousands now so yeah 400 is low end, 1080p is low end 2k is middle, 4k is high end etc, todays consoles are all in the low to med category pretty much all console games are low res textures and run at 30 fps.

Wow, well then stuff is expensive now. Should I get a refund for BeamNG and get Wreckfest until I get a tower PC? Would it be more enjoyable?

[Moon Truther]

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Originally posted by I actually beat a nerd to death.:

You are a horrible troll, i quoted something that hot male anthro said, and you attacked me. Or are you just attacking everybody? Theres a solid chance your a facebook dwelling boomer, just based off your profile name and picture. Go back there, for the love of god.

I have NO idea what the hell you are on about, at no time did i attack anyone or troll anyone except to reply to HOTMALE who called YOU pretentious. maybe you need to learn to read better because i was actually sticking up for you, but hay why even bother.

i was tired when i read your responses, sorry. i should probobly find a way to cut off the internet after a certain hour. or i could just sleep for once

[I am Groot]

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Yes, I'm sorry but a 1060 is low end. a 1070 is low middle, a 1080 is middle/ high a 2070 is high and a 2080 is high/ultra then you have TI versions s0 a 2080TI is ultra. You can build a PC for thousands now so yeah 400 is low end, 1080p is low end 2k is middle, 4k is high end etc, todays consoles are all in the low to med category pretty much all console games are low res textures and run at 30 fps.

Wow, well then stuff is expensive now. Should I get a refund for BeamNG and get Wreckfest until I get a tower PC? Would it be more enjoyable?

Top end PC gaming is VERY expensive yeah, but it depends what you're happy with 1080p is good enough for the vast majority and a 1060 will play most games ok at that res just dont expect to crank all the settings up. This game is very heavy on physics and can drag even a 1080 down below 60fps if you have enough going on. did you try switching the physics to use your cpu ?? you may find its better, cant hurt to try. Also this game is still a game in the works so it wont be fully optimised until near release id guess.

[BORDER OF PURGATORY]

Originally posted by I actually beat a nerd to death.:

Dont be so needy with your horrible setup. i'd expect the game to run at lowest settings at maybe 30-45 fps. your just destroying your cards lifespan by working it so hard.

sorry, are you trying to say that using 100% of a graphics card vs 70% reduces its lifespan?

really?

[TCG1]

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Wow, well then stuff is expensive now. Should I get a refund for BeamNG and get Wreckfest until I get a tower PC? Would it be more enjoyable?

Top end PC gaming is VERY expensive yeah, but it depends what you're happy with 1080p is good enough for the vast majority and a 1060 will play most games ok at that res just dont expect to crank all the settings up. This game is very heavy on physics and can drag even a 1080 down below 60fps if you have enough going on. did you try switching the physics to use your cpu ?? you may find its better, cant hurt to try. Also this game is still a game in the works so it wont be fully optimised until near release id guess.

How do you switch the physics to use your CPU? I'm pretty sure that's the problem because my GPU is being used at 90% with 4 vehicles while my CPU sits at 20% usage, so if my GPU has to render the graphics and the physics then it's gonna lag, but I can't see where to switch from GPU to CPU in the Options menu, where is that at?

[BORDER OF PURGATORY]

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Originally posted by I am Groot:

Top end PC gaming is VERY expensive yeah, but it depends what you're happy with 1080p is good enough for the vast majority and a 1060 will play most games ok at that res just dont expect to crank all the settings up. This game is very heavy on physics and can drag even a 1080 down below 60fps if you have enough going on. did you try switching the physics to use your cpu ?? you may find its better, cant hurt to try. Also this game is still a game in the works so it wont be fully optimised until near release id guess.

How do you switch the physics to use your CPU? I'm pretty sure that's the problem because my GPU is being used at 90% with 4 vehicles while my CPU sits at 20% usage, so if my GPU has to render the graphics and the physics then it's gonna lag, but I can't see where to switch from GPU to CPU in the Options menu, where is that at?

pause physics while experiencing the frame issues

if your FPS goes up, your cpu is the problem
if your FPS doesn't change, your graphics card is the problem

[TCG1]

Originally posted by catfuzz52:

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

How do you switch the physics to use your CPU? I'm pretty sure that's the problem because my GPU is being used at 90% with 4 vehicles while my CPU sits at 20% usage, so if my GPU has to render the graphics and the physics then it's gonna lag, but I can't see where to switch from GPU to CPU in the Options menu, where is that at?

pause physics while experiencing the frame issues

if your FPS goes up, your cpu is the problem
if your FPS doesn't change, your graphics card is the problem

My fps goes up when I press J so my cpu is the problem?

[BORDER OF PURGATORY]

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

Originally posted by catfuzz52:

pause physics while experiencing the frame issues

if your FPS goes up, your cpu is the problem
if your FPS doesn't change, your graphics card is the problem

My fps goes up when I press J so my cpu is the problem?

yes

how many cars do you have spawned?
what else is running on the computer?

[TCG1]

Originally posted by catfuzz52:

Originally posted by M. Shadows:

My fps goes up when I press J so my cpu is the problem?

yes

how many cars do you have spawned?
what else is running on the computer?

I had around 5 pick up trucks spawned and nothing else is running on my pc