0.18 Discussion Thread

[Nadeox1]

Please check our main thread before reporting problems!

You can find an updated list of known bugs in the link below:
https://www.beamng.com/threads/0-18-discussion-thread.66992/


If the issue you are having is not listed in the thread above, feel free to report it here. Do not forget to include as much information.

Thanks in advance!

NOTE

Issues and feedback related to the Automation exporter or Automation in general does not go in this thread, but in here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/293760/discussions/2/
Or here: https://www.beamng.com/threads/automation-exporter-feedback-bug-reporting-thread.56023/

Feedback and Changelogs

This thread is meant to collect feedback for version 0.18
We would love to hear your feedback :)

Changelogs can be found here:
https://blog.beamng.com/blog/

Please check in Safe Mode / without mods before reporting any problems!

This will help us avoid spending time hunting problems that are originally caused by mods.
Thank you!

[08_JK_]

I know this may not be the best place to post this kind of stuff. But I usually do off roading stuff in the game, the hopper to me is really lite especially the front end. It tips backwards real easy trying to climb hills. Is there any setting I could try to improve that on my end? Also was just wondering if there would be away to add a winch for the 4x4s?. I know use the mouse and what not. but its just not the same. It would be nice to be able to winch a vehicle with another or be able to hook up to trees and rocks for self recovery.

[SkyeFox]

The rear doors on the crew cab D-Series trucks literally melt off.

EDIT: It was mods. Ignore me

[Los.Injurus.Bob.Blunderton]

Originally posted by 08_JK_:

I know this may not be the best place to post this kind of stuff. But I usually do off roading stuff in the game, the hopper to me is really lite especially the front end. It tips backwards real easy trying to climb hills. Is there any setting I could try to improve that on my end? Also was just wondering if there would be away to add a winch for the 4x4s?. I know use the mouse and what not. but its just not the same. It would be nice to be able to winch a vehicle with another or be able to hook up to trees and rocks for self recovery.

Well you can use a chain to connect two vehicles in this game, but I forget which keys actually are for linking nodes / the process to do it.
Having a huge lift on a 4x4 can actually be counter-productive if you plan on going up super-steep inclines - make it just big enough (including wheels / tires) so that you can clear your obstacle, but not so big that you put your center of gravity too far away from the ground, causing you to tip backwards when accelerating up an incline from an almost-stopped position.
Can't tell you how many times that I've seen a Jeep 4x4 tip backwards and fall down to from where it once came.
Though that being said, a winch would be pretty cool honestly. I could winch my pianos up cliffs to recover them then, but then I'd need a lot of duct tape and wood glue, too.
...Maybe I'll just stick to shoving pianos off the dam.

[08_JK_]

I didn't think about pianos lol..Not only would a winch be good for that and 4x4's, it would open up the opportunity for tow trucks and cranes then you could dangle cars like a tether ball or use it as a clothes line for unexpected passer byers lol

[Drainplug]

Thank you for destroying all of the mods for the D series, its not like there were a million or anything. Also your "Optimized" loading takes twice as long than it did... Great. And the lighting looks like its from 2007 arcade games. All and all a great update that we wanted, definitely not multiplayer, more vehicles, or maps.

[Mhymyk]

The only issue I'm having right now is I can't use an Xbox controller. It's detected on the "Hardware" section of the Settings, but no inputs are being recognized

[08_JK_]

Originally posted by Mhymyk:

The only issue I'm having right now is I can't use an Xbox controller. It's detected on the "Hardware" section of the Settings, but no inputs are being recognized

My xbox one controller still works.

[08_JK_]

Originally posted by Drainplug:

Thank you for destroying all of the mods for the D series, its not like there were a million or anything. Also your "Optimized" loading takes twice as long than it did... Great. And the lighting looks like its from 2007 arcade games. All and all a great update that we wanted, definitely not multiplayer, more vehicles, or maps.

I've also have been having problems with mods for the d series. I.e 5th wheel not connecting to truck and no more goose neck hitch. There is more but I think the modder would have to update on their end to make it work with the new update.

[Mhymyk]

Originally posted by 08_JK_:

Originally posted by Mhymyk:

The only issue I'm having right now is I can't use an Xbox controller. It's detected on the "Hardware" section of the Settings, but no inputs are being recognized

My xbox one controller still works.

On second thought, I think my controller died, tried it on a completely different game to no response. F

[Coach]

I liked what you did in this update, the lights in general look way better than before but there is one big problem.

The lighting, especially the shadows are very distracting on the insides of cars.
The shadows are shivering way too much and on the left door, on the panel and on the wheel you can see a lot of "noise" with the shadow's render.

The shadows also seem to ignore the geometry of the wheel and it's probably intentional to prevent FPS drops but the way it was executed doesn't work, it's too distracting moving the wheel and having the shadows stay completely still.

The problems fades away when you drive at 100Km/h because at this point the shadows move fast enough so that you can't see how ugly they are.

But when you go relatively slowly they just scratch at my eyes, I have a harder time seeing the road and appreciating the model of the interior.

I don't know if I'm stupid but I didn't find any shadow options, there should be one so that you can decide on the number of "cascades" for shadows or even disable them from rendering for cars completely.

[Nadeox1]

Originally posted by Drainplug:

Thank you for destroying all of the mods for the D series, its not like there were a million or anything. Also your "Optimized" loading takes twice as long than it did... Great. And the lighting looks like its from 2007 arcade games. All and all a great update that we wanted, definitely not multiplayer, more vehicles, or maps.

Sorry to hear you are having problems.

Please note that regarding the lightning changes, we have yet not got around adjusting all our content to reflect the new changes. But also note that the new lightning is closer to correct lightning than the older one. We will be updating our content as we go to take advantage of the new possibilities.

The loading screen depends a lot on your system.
The benchmark we posted were done on a Ryzen 2700X and a Crucial MX100 SSD.
Results may vary on different setups. But it should overall be faster than before.
If not, something may be wrong on your side.

As for mods, we do spend a lot of time and effort in keeping backward compatibility with older content. We could simply not, and save up so much time, but we deliberately choose not to.
Please understand that despite these efforts, sometimes it's just not possible.
We cannot be blocked from updating the game because mods. It's a risk to calculate when modding a game in development.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts.

Originally posted by Zinkomatik:

I liked what you did in this update, the lights in general look way better than before but there is one big problem.

The lighting, especially the shadows are very distracting on the insides of cars.
The shadows are shivering way too much and on the left door, on the panel and on the wheel you can see a lot of "noise" with the shadow's render.

The shadows also seem to ignore the geometry of the wheel and it's probably intentional to prevent FPS drops but the way it was executed doesn't work, it's too distracting moving the wheel and having the shadows stay completely still.

The problems fades away when you drive at 100Km/h because at this point the shadows move fast enough so that you can't see how ugly they are.

But when you go relatively slowly they just scratch at my eyes, I have a harder time seeing the road and appreciating the model of the interior.

I don't know if I'm stupid but I didn't find any shadow options, there should be one so that you can decide on the number of "cascades" for shadows or even disable them from rendering for cars completely.

Shadows are something we want to improve in the future.
The current system is based off old tech, and it's issues are now more visible with the lightning changes. There's Shadow options in the Graphics menu, they mainly control their resolution.

[MrJdfvn]

One thing i really wish the game should have is proper Anti Aliasing, TAA maybe.

[Orannis]

That loading screen really does take twice as long. Can we have an option for it in the next hotfix, maybe?

[Nadeox1]

Originally posted by MrJdfvn:

One thing i really wish the game should have is proper Anti Aliasing, TAA maybe.

We have SMAA, which is virtually no cost on performance and can cover most of the cases.
Every AA method has it's own requirements (render changes, performance, etc.), as well their own side-effect (TAA known to introduce ghosting)

[Coach]

Originally posted by Nadeox1:

Shadows are something we want to improve in the future.
The current system is based off old tech, and it's issues are now more visible with the lightning changes. There's Shadow options in the Graphics menu, they mainly control their resolution.

Sorry I can't find the shadows resolution settings, only the "enable shadows : partial/none".
Cranking the res up would be good, at least temporarily.