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BeamNG Drive - PC Exceeds Maximum Requirements - Lags on Lowest Graphical Settings (Potentially Solved - Faulty HDMI Cord???)
A few months ago I noticed (what I believe to be) coil whine coming from my EVGA GTX 970 FTW Gaming ACX 2.0. Normally this isn't a problem (so I read,) but following the clicking noise was rapid, consistent, and unpredictable frame drops ranging from 20-60 fps (no matter the graphical settings.) I called Nvidia and they said it could be the PSU or CPU, I sent out an RMA anyways on the card. Figured I'd honor the warranty on it while I had it, just in case that was the problem. In the meantime I used Live Chat with an Intel representative and he ran a diagnostic on the CPU, it passed. He also mentioned that it could be the PSU; 700 watt unit, so its sufficient for the system. Fast forward 2 weeks, (present day) and the RMA goes through. They sent me an EVGA GTX 1060 SSC Gaming 6GB as a replacement. So I installed it and booted up BeamNG Drive hoping that it solved the issue, and it did. However I still can't hold a solid 60 fps, whether it be the >>lowest possible settings OR maxed out<<, the graphics literally make no difference. BeamNG Drive is the only game I have trouble with, but 3 months prior everything ran solid. What could be the problem?

OS: Windows 10 64-bit
GPU: "*New*" EVGA GTX 1060 SSC Gaming 6GB
CPU: Intel i7-4790k Quad-Core 4.00 GHz
RAM: 24 gigs
(Everything operates within safe temperatures)

Note: I followed a guide on YouTube to "optimize" Windows 10 for gaming a few months back (though it wasn't necessary,) that could potentially be a problem. Maybe I disabled something that could be causing it. I've also tried clearing cache and overclocking the GPU (for my first time, never felt necessary with previous GPU) and it still did nothing.

Thoughts?
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 30 MAR 2018 a las 14:30
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Stabs 21 MAR 2018 a las 19:14 
Sounds like you may not have turned off VSYNC and the FPS Limiter in OPTIONS > GRAPHICS

What map are you basing your fps off of?

I just loaded the game up on the Jungle Rock map with everything on the lowest settings possible at 1080p.

My Stable FPS: 160

My Specs:
GTX 980 Ti
i7-4770K 4.2ghz OC
32gb Ram 2133hz Corsair Vengeance
SSD
144hz refresh rate
Última edición por Stabs; 21 MAR 2018 a las 19:15
The 15th Werewolf 21 MAR 2018 a las 21:48 
I'm trying a clean install now. But Jungle Rock, both West and East Coast. FPS is pretty stable as a whole, just certain areas where I'd be fine a few months prior now cause a loss in frames. According to some forums, regarding my "new" GPU, its "a step up from the GTX 970, but still behind the GTX 980." Given that information it should render better, no? I've already tried going through V-Sync/Limiter options, and I tried switching from integrated graphics to dedicated, they made no difference.

Edit: I tried the clean install, performance is still lacking. To clarify, the frame drops are generally as follows. The more busy a scene is (i.e. buildings, towns, etc.) the more frames I lose. I'm averaging 45-55 fps in the small town on East Coast and occasional frame stutters driving through isolated roads surrounded by trees. Whereas before the GTX 970 went wonky, I could easily hold a solid 60 FPS throughout the entire map (NOT overclocked.) I have V-sync and FPS limiter enabled, if I have the limiter turned off I notice stuttering more frequently (I use a 60Hz flat screen as monitor.) Toggled on or off, no difference as stated above.
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 21 MAR 2018 a las 22:09
Nadeox1 22 MAR 2018 a las 1:49 
Do this please:
No mods.
Load Gridmap (do not move the camera or the vehicle)
Go to options > user-interface > enable 'Advanced Mode'
In the sidemenu there should be a new button named 'PERFORMANCE'
Press it. Then click the 'Hide UI for 10 seconds' button on the top-right corner.
Wait until the UI returns back, then press ALT+O and paste the link for the image here.

Repeat the above on East Coast USA (or any other case you have this issue on)

Go to the BeamNG.Drive directory (Steam/Steamapps/Common/BeamNG.Drive/Bin64) and run the 'banana-bench.x64.bat' file.
When done, take a screenshot and post the link here.

What resolution you play at?

The 15th Werewolf 22 MAR 2018 a las 12:11 
Publicado originalmente por Nadeox1:
Do this please:
No mods.
Load Gridmap (do not move the camera or the vehicle)
Go to options > user-interface > enable 'Advanced Mode'
In the sidemenu there should be a new button named 'PERFORMANCE'
Press it. Then click the 'Hide UI for 10 seconds' button on the top-right corner.
Wait until the UI returns back, then press ALT+O and paste the link for the image here.

Repeat the above on East Coast USA (or any other case you have this issue on)

Go to the BeamNG.Drive directory (Steam/Steamapps/Common/BeamNG.Drive/Bin64) and run the 'banana-bench.x64.bat' file.
When done, take a screenshot and post the link here.

What resolution you play at?

Gridmap: http://media-cdn.beamng.com/0iaRKtUzBGT7EeA5/screenshot_00001.jpg
East Coast: http://media-cdn.beamng.com/a4pSXhTpQibvXsyG/screenshot_00002.jpg
(I let these run for a couple seconds after the UI returned^ before screenshotting)
Banana-Bench: https://imgur.com/Gum2MFG

I play at a custom resolution (because of the flat screen,) 1842x1036. Usually full screen with borders.

Edit: http://media-cdn.beamng.com/rBxEBJHDhkCeMWpL/screenshot_00003.jpg
Here's the settings. As a reminder, I'd run a solid 60 fps on most maps (that I'm now having problems with) on the GTX 970 prior to the issues that ensued with that card.
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 22 MAR 2018 a las 12:20
Nadeox1 23 MAR 2018 a las 6:13 
The second graph shows the CPU Render being unusually high (means the CPU is holding back)

I have a similar setup as yours (4790k + 970 but a slightly higher resolution 2560x1080) and I can maintain 60FPS and almost null CPU Render on that same spot. Is any of your hardware overclocked? Have you tried reverting?
Última edición por Nadeox1; 23 MAR 2018 a las 6:13
The 15th Werewolf 23 MAR 2018 a las 15:54 
Publicado originalmente por Nadeox1:
The second graph shows the CPU Render being unusually high (means the CPU is holding back)

I have a similar setup as yours (4790k + 970 but a slightly higher resolution 2560x1080) and I can maintain 60FPS and almost null CPU Render on that same spot. Is any of your hardware overclocked? Have you tried reverting?

That's strange, are there any windows settings that I disabled that would up my CPU usage for things? If you have the time, I followed this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaYbFmB2rDw&t=867s
Maybe there was something in there I disabled? I've already disabled all nonessential windows programs from booting at start, and I turned off a lot of windows apps (like that guide says to do) that aren't useful to me.

As far as overclocking goes, I've never done it before. I only tried overclocking my GPU recently (before making this thread) to see if I could power through it, but that didn't do anything so I reverted back to factory clock speeds.
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 23 MAR 2018 a las 16:09
Nadeox1 24 MAR 2018 a las 1:43 
Uh, I'd personally avoid following tutorials on how to boost your Windows, most of the time it's blindly changing stuff and risking to cause a mess.

In that video, you followed the part at 12:36 too?
(where he started to mess with the processor settings)

I'm almost sure that setting the maximum frequency to 0Mhz makes the CPU lock at it's lowest operative clock speed. Please revert the power settings to their default.
The 15th Werewolf 24 MAR 2018 a las 11:53 
Publicado originalmente por Nadeox1:
Uh, I'd personally avoid following tutorials on how to boost your Windows, most of the time it's blindly changing stuff and risking to cause a mess.

In that video, you followed the part at 12:36 too?
(where he started to mess with the processor settings)

I'm almost sure that setting the maximum frequency to 0Mhz makes the CPU lock at it's lowest operative clock speed. Please revert the power settings to their default.

I followed the entire thing through, though its been a while. I'm going to try and reverse what I can, see if that makes any changes in performance. I'm going to have some problems with some things though, I'll start reversing what I can, but I did reset the power values. Assuming all of this gets worked out, I'm not going to follow anymore guides.

Edit: What do you recommend reverting back? I've tried resetting anything related to performance issues, so far I have:
Someone on reddit said the default values for in regedit (following that massive strand in video) is
System Responsiveness is 14
GPU Priority is 8
Priority is 2
I re-enabled SuperFetch and went into Advanced System settings > Virtual Memory and re-enabled "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives."
I reverted power settings back to default and kept it under High Performance plan
I've decided to disable all apps (except for xbox)

Is there something else that you can think of to revert back? Anything restricting my CPU, GPU, RAM usage? Reverting some of this back has helped a little. Still getting stuttering and barely maintaining 60 FPS

Edit: I don't even have Maximum Processor Frequency under Processor Power Management
https://imgur.com/hVAHhCG
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 24 MAR 2018 a las 15:34
Major Mittens. 24 MAR 2018 a las 18:05 
I assume you've got the game installed on a HDD. I had terrible performance until I reinstalled and began using my SSD again.
The 15th Werewolf 24 MAR 2018 a las 19:10 
Publicado originalmente por Major Mittens.:
I assume you've got the game installed on a HDD. I had terrible performance until I reinstalled and began using my SSD again.

You're correct, I install all games to HDD and have Steam installed to my boot SSD. Again, the problems only started a few months ago. I suspect that windows guide was the cause. Either way, I ended up resting windows back to default. See if that helps, if not I'll do a clean install. I've been dreading that, though.
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 24 MAR 2018 a las 21:16
Major Mittens. 24 MAR 2018 a las 20:01 
Publicado originalmente por Sputnik The Husky:
Publicado originalmente por Major Mittens.:
I assume you've got the game installed on a HDD. I had terrible performance until I reinstalled and began using my SSD again.

You're correct, I install all games to HDD and have Steam installed to my boot SSD. Again, the problems only started a few months ago. I suspect that windows guide was the cause. Either way, I ended resting windows back to default. See if that helps, if not I'll do a clean install. I've been dreading that, though.

I had a very similar issue which was only noticed a few months ago, I even have had the performance issues on a clean install. So unfortunately it lives on the SSD alongside the OS now.
The 15th Werewolf 24 MAR 2018 a las 21:17 
Publicado originalmente por Major Mittens.:
Publicado originalmente por Sputnik The Husky:

You're correct, I install all games to HDD and have Steam installed to my boot SSD. Again, the problems only started a few months ago. I suspect that windows guide was the cause. Either way, I ended resting windows back to default. See if that helps, if not I'll do a clean install. I've been dreading that, though.

I had a very similar issue which was only noticed a few months ago, I even have had the performance issues on a clean install. So unfortunately it lives on the SSD alongside the OS now.

I might give that a try if it isn't solved after this. I'm hoping that the reset will fix anything I might have done to Windows. Part of me feels like it might also be BeamNG, but like Nadeox1 said, his seems to be fine with a similar set up so I dunno.
Última edición por The 15th Werewolf; 24 MAR 2018 a las 21:18
The 15th Werewolf 25 MAR 2018 a las 1:05 
Update: I finished redownloading all of my programs and reinstalled BeamNG Drive after the Windows 10 reset. If anything, performance has actually gotten worse.
HELLVICE 25 MAR 2018 a las 2:32 
do you got the same perfomance on a small map vs a huge map?
i got gtx 970 ssc 2.0 i5-4460 3.4 16gb ram , sometime i got 60+ fps on a simple map and when i go in a bigger/complex map i got like 30-45 fps , i found that pretty normal
The 15th Werewolf 25 MAR 2018 a las 13:36 
Publicado originalmente por HELL-VICE:
do you got the same perfomance on a small map vs a huge map?
i got gtx 970 ssc 2.0 i5-4460 3.4 16gb ram , sometime i got 60+ fps on a simple map and when i go in a bigger/complex map i got like 30-45 fps , i found that pretty normal

Idk, a few months ago everything ran solid. But now I'm getting as you describe. I tried driving around Gridmap for about 10 minutes, at first there were small dips in FPS then it stabilized and held 60. Then I moved to Jungle Rock for 30 or so minutes and it was holding a steady 60 for the most part. I'll test it again later.
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