only 183 concurrent players umpf........

[Hunk]

We are talking about the game that got over 19 million views on its first reveal trailer 3 years prior. What happened?

left wing woke BS happend thats why the game failed same as concorde, star wars outlaws and dustborn nobody wants to play these woke shıt games %98 of gamers are straight masculine right winged gamer gigachad's the biggest proof is black king wukong 20mil active players on launch we dont wanna play as aliens playing happy fun family time until the ''bad guys'' arrive and you play fetch with them personally one of my biggest reasons i hard passed the game was the limit to play na'vi only the devs force you to play only the alien side and shıt on humans all the time thats why i loved the 2008 game it had freedom you could pick your side choose your morals/allegiance   and play trough the game the way you see fit this game just feels like the avatar 2 movie woke/cringe.

So there you have it. If you wondered why this game flopped hard despite having a follower base of 19 million, at this point the only little sparkle left that might ignite it again is to bring humans as a playable race via a DLC, but I doubt that will happen. 

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Nux Vomic:

What did you expect from ubisoft? $70 base+$40 for S.Pass for 2 missions and lame mounts. Plus it's a $110 game that you just RENT from them, like the dvd's you rent from your local video club :lunar2019grinningpig:

i know but still i really hoped maybe just MAYBE it would be different this time since the same studio made the 2008 one i thought maybe it would be similar to that game :/

[DOOM Maternal]

The games great! I figured id subscribe to ubi+ for a month to try outlaws, skull and bones, and this. Dropped outlaws after a few hours, but having a blast with this game. All content is unlocked, as well. Not bad for $20. When it goes on a deep sale in a year or two I can buy it here if I want. Y'all sound like clowns btw

[Ravyn]

Originally posted by Hunk:

We are talking about the game that got over 19 million views on its first reveal trailer 3 years prior. What happened?

left wing woke BS happend thats why the game failed same as concorde, star wars outlaws and dustborn nobody wants to play these woke shıt games %98 of gamers are straight masculine right winged gamer gigachad's the biggest proof is black king wukong 20mil active players on launch we dont wanna play as aliens playing happy fun family time until the ''bad guys'' arrive and you play fetch with them personally one of my biggest reasons i hard passed the game was the limit to play na'vi only the devs force you to play only the alien side and shıt on humans all the time thats why i loved the 2008 game it had freedom you could pick your side choose your morals/allegiance   and play trough the game the way you see fit this game just feels like the avatar 2 movie woke/cringe.

So there you have it. If you wondered why this game flopped hard despite having a follower base of 19 million, at this point the only little sparkle left that might ignite it again is to bring humans as a playable race via a DLC, but I doubt that will happen.

How is this game woke tho?

I think it's more about the poor performance, quests that are boring, gameplay for many ppl, just another Far Cry Game but with Avatar Lore ... AND then that price!

I'm all against woke forced stuff in video games, but I cant see any woke stuff in this game?

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Ravenna:

Originally posted by Hunk:

We are talking about the game that got over 19 million views on its first reveal trailer 3 years prior. What happened?

left wing woke BS happend thats why the game failed same as concorde, star wars outlaws and dustborn nobody wants to play these woke shıt games %98 of gamers are straight masculine right winged gamer gigachad's the biggest proof is black king wukong 20mil active players on launch we dont wanna play as aliens playing happy fun family time until the ''bad guys'' arrive and you play fetch with them personally one of my biggest reasons i hard passed the game was the limit to play na'vi only the devs force you to play only the alien side and shıt on humans all the time thats why i loved the 2008 game it had freedom you could pick your side choose your morals/allegiance   and play trough the game the way you see fit this game just feels like the avatar 2 movie woke/cringe.

So there you have it. If you wondered why this game flopped hard despite having a follower base of 19 million, at this point the only little sparkle left that might ignite it again is to bring humans as a playable race via a DLC, but I doubt that will happen.

How is this game woke tho?

I think it's more about the poor performance, quests that are boring, gameplay for many ppl, just another Far Cry Game but with Avatar Lore ... AND then that price!

I'm all against woke forced stuff in video games, but I cant see any woke stuff in this game?

this scene alone reeks of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mUGPRCerL8

i dont even own the game/never played it but this scene alone makes it woke i mean look at it classy white supremacist male as a villain just like dustborn i mean why ? why the villain couldn't be african or indian or asian ?? and the hole ''our culture'' thing with the singing was the cherry on top for the cringiness meter to go over the roof and this is just one scene one of my friends ho bought the game thinking it would be similar to the 2008 version told me the game is full of these kind of cringe/woke scenes and he quit the game halfway trough without finishing it said biggest regret of his life

ps: in case you didin't get what i mean bc my grammar is kinda slugish tbh griffin gaming explains it perfectly what i mean watch this praticular part (32:53) of his video:

https://youtu.be/rA4JhyP7kgM?t=1973

[DOOM Maternal]

The villain is white, and the blue people are singing, got it.

Notice how all the videos that this youtuber posts are negative and controversial, see a pattern there? Dude panders for views, he gets people like you all riled up for clicks. Btw he sounds closeted af, you might want to scratch him off your watchlist now.

His complaints are about the franchise itself, the series is about colonisation. Believe it or not, indignant people were here first. lmao. Not sure how any of this is woke. Bro if a white villain is all you can come up with for a why a game is woke, that's a pretty low threshold. Do you avoid like 90% of media today?

Let's try and remember that its a video game, and its fun. From somebody who's spent hours actually playing it, I can tell you that calling it farcry clone is very reductionist take. The environment is incredible to traverse, chalked full of things to see WITH unparalleled verticality. Gathering isn't just running up to things an holding a button, there are conditions when you can gather items to there full potential and this fits into the crafting system well. I haven't even gotten to the ikara riding yet, and that's another thing that people commend the game for. Visuals are chefs kiss, sound design, chefs kiss, its objectively well made.

I'm not even an avatar fan ffs, I haven't seen the second movie, I just like gamin.

Sure, it shares similarities with other open world games, most games do. Every new title isn't going to be something widely new. That would be amazing, but its just not reality. I can however, say with 100% confidence, that this game does more than enough to feel like its own thing. If middling nonsense like these sways your decision to try something like this, you are clowning.

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Day:

The villain is white, and the blue people are singing, got it.

Notice how all the videos that this youtuber posts are negative and controversial, see a pattern there? Dude panders for views, he gets people like you all riled up for clicks. Btw he sounds closeted af, you might want to scratch him off your watchlist now.

His complaints are about the franchise itself, the series is about colonisation. Believe it or not, indignant people were here first. lmao. Not sure how any of this is woke. Bro if a white villain is all you can come up with for a why a game is woke, that's a pretty low threshold. Do you avoid like 90% of media today?

Let's try and remember that its a video game, and its fun. From somebody who's spent hours actually playing it, I can tell you that calling it farcry clone is very reductionist take. The environment is incredible to traverse, chalked full of things to see WITH unparalleled verticality. Gathering isn't just running up to things an holding a button, there are conditions when you can gather items to there full potential and this fits into the crafting system well. I haven't even gotten to the ikara riding yet, and that's another thing that people commend the game for. Visuals are chefs kiss, sound design, chefs kiss, its objectively well made.

I'm not even an avatar fan ffs, I haven't seen the second movie, I just like gamin.

Sure, it shares similarities with other open world games, most games do. Every new title isn't going to be something widely new. That would be amazing, but its just not reality. I can however, say with 100% confidence, that this game does more than enough to feel like its own thing. If middling nonsense like these sways your decision to try something like this, you are clowning.

i dont want to start a war here and gaslight everything but numbers don't lie man you may like the game but the rest %99 of gamers around the globe don't simple as that im sorry but there is nothing to defend 183 players is a joke for a triple A game made by one of the biggest game devs specially if the trailer of the said game passed 19 million views remove 183 players ho liked and still play the game witch leaves 18,999,817 gamers ho didint like the game because how woke and cringe it is you say its not but what about the rest 18,999,817 (me included) players then ? griffin is just one of the youtubers ho voices the majority of the community there are a dozen of diffrent examples here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1J9LJf6CPs&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GDHy3uLg2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjrFZNiW1-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbctmvPsyK4


again you may like the game witch i dont have a problem with it but just because you like it dosent mean the game is thats not how democracy works the majority of players witch is a whopping %99.8 find this game woke and cringe witch makes it woke and cringe in the end like it or not

[DOOM Maternal]

Why are people so obsessed with player numbers. Steam isn't the only platform my guy. Like 4 click-baited videos prove anything. I don't give af that the game shows 183 people on steam. Its a single player game, people play it, then stop. This isn't concord that relies on a player-base where the initial 25,000 copies sold are pretty much all its going to see.

Here in the spirit of being pointless, I cherry picked positive youtube videos for the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJqg0XGp0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OU9zUVZrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycVyhKOIQXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP9uTLL7N9A


99% of people don't hate this game, the fact is the loud majority are bored mfers like yourself. Regular well adjusted people that just want to play games, play them, enjoy them, and that's it. While people with too much time on their hands yell at each other on the steam forums about "wokeness."

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Day:

Why are people so obsessed with player numbers. Steam isn't the only platform my guy. Like 4 click-baited videos prove anything. I don't give af that the game shows 183 people on steam. Its a single player game, people play it, then stop. This isn't concord that relies on a player-base where the initial 25,000 copies sold are pretty much all its going to see.

Here in the spirit of being pointless, I cherry picked positive youtube videos for the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJqg0XGp0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OU9zUVZrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycVyhKOIQXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP9uTLL7N9A


99% of people don't hate this game, the fact is the loud majority are bored mfers like yourself. Regular well adjusted people that just want to play games, play them, enjoy them, and that's it. While people with too much time on their hands yell at each other on the steam forums about "wokeness."

Why are we obsessed by numbers? Maybe it's because it determines how successful the game is ? Which determines how good the game is ? some basic logic? btw, your logic with ''It's a single-player game; people play it, then stop.'' statment is also dumb. Tell me why the Witcher-3 A 9 YEAR OLD SİNGLE PLAYER game has more players (14,335 concurrent as I type this) than the avatar? The same goes with the Fallout series, Fallout 4. Witch is a 9-year-old game also with 22,723 concurrent players; hell even Starfield, Witch is a mediocre game with 12,842 players. HELL EVEN FARCRY5 witch is the game that got cloned for this game has 2.498 players the most weak logic i heard so far LMAO as for your ''concord sold 20k copies'' half of that amount got refunded its even worse then avatar with only 104 players witch i bet all of them are woke mf's the point is not just selling it and even if it was do you have any idea how bad 20k sold copies are ? for a game that has been in development for over 8 plus years thats terrible black king wukong took half of that time to develop (4 years) and sold 40 MİLLİON COPİES that what you call a success not 20k you need players to keep playing so you can sell dlc and keep the servers up you really have no idea how the gaming industry works lmao and its not just 4 videos i posted those are just examples there are literally HUNDREDS of videos like this more then those woke ass samples you posted as for your statment about'' While people with too much time on their hands yell at each other on the steam forums about "wokeness." gaming is my passion alright?? im SİCK of freaks like you and your woke firends trying to force feed us this woke bs nobody likes/wants it alright? concord ? FLOPPED acolyte? FLOPPED dustborn? FLOPPED snow white? FLOPPED borderlands movie ? FLOPPED star wars outlaws ? DLOPPED Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora? EXTRA FLOPPED is not working and it never will be right winged gamers will just keep protesting like this until they stop witch they will the end is near all those huge failed woke projects hurt them right in their soul millions TRİLLİONS of $ lost and thats thanks to us aware gamers ho protest this by not playing or watching their projects and complaining it on the forums witch brings awarness to this filth so no i will not stop posting about this issue until its erased from gaming/cinema entirely you dont like it ? well cry about it then

[DOOM Maternal]

You are soo far down the rabbit hole my guy lmao. Just goes off on another woke this woke that tangent. Concord really got you going, and I wasn't even defending it, I was just using it as an example.

Line breaks are useful btw, i'm not going try to decipher that any further than a few lines.

-this comment was written while laughing hysterically. Thank you for this.

Edit: nvm real quick.

"Why are we obsessed by numbers? Maybe it's because it determines how successful the game is ? "

You are talking about CONCURRENT player numbers in single player game. Not only that, the game launched almost a YEAR ago on a completely different platform. I myself am playing on said platform. That's without taking the consoles into account as well.

So no, the fact that this game has low concurrent players on steam does mean very little. Instead of using concurrent players for your argument, you should be talking about revenue or copies sold.

This game made 133 million so far. Now I don't want to get you all worked up about concord again lmao. But concord made 1 million for reference. A more relevant reference would be dragons dogma 2 which made 108 million.

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Day:

You are soo far down the rabbit hole my guy lmao. Just goes off on another woke this woke that tangent. Concord really got you going, and I wasn't even defending it, I was just using it as an example.

Line breaks are useful btw, i'm not going try to decipher that any further than a few lines.

-this comment was written while laughing hysterically. Thank you for this.

Edit: nvm real quick.

"Why are we obsessed by numbers? Maybe it's because it determines how successful the game is ? "

You are talking about CONCURRENT player numbers in single player game. Not only that, the game launched almost a YEAR ago on a completely different platform. I myself am playing on said platform. That's without taking the consoles into account as well.

So no, the fact that this game has low concurrent players on steam does mean very little. Instead of using concurrent players for your argument, you should be talking about revenue or copies sold.

This game made 133 million so far. Now I don't want to get you all worked up about concord again lmao. But concord made 1 million for reference. A more relevant reference would be dragons dogma 2 which made 108 million.

Look, I don't give a slightest damn about your perspective; you love the game ? Good for you, I dont give a fuçk what your thicc skull does not understand Is the game did not succeed alright? Like it or not, it failed miserably. You dont have the slightest idea. How the video game industry works here is an article so you can understand how concorde is making sony lose money:


https://www.smashjt.com/post/concord-s-failure-costs-sony-214-285-71-per-player



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbg-SrcFlLU



The playercount right now for Concorde is so low that Sony loses money for that small group that still plays the game: $214,285.71 per player, to be exact. Sony will have to plug the game soon to avoid further loss. You keep insisting player count does not matter, but it is the main pillar for a game company to make money in the first place. 



As for your statment about avatar making 133 mil, do you really think all that money is profit? not even close LMAO the development budget was probably between 300 to 500 mil i say probably because you cant find any information on the internet about how mutch this  game cost to develop unlike other games proving ubisoft is hiding their numbers bc they dont want players know how big of a money loss they had lol the game had been in development over 4 years similar games Cyberpunk 2077 for example because the gameplay is pretty similar did cost 500-mil $ to develop we can assume that the ammount is pretty similar give or take so in the end if you include everything like   the game development marketing etc. i'll be generous and go a little cheaper then other similar games and say 300 mil Ubisoft spent $300 million to make avatar; the sales brought 133 million. witch leaves ubisoft with a 167 million in LOSS LMAO. They lose money rather than making it, and you still insist that is profit/a successful game. You really are clueless.


You dont even know the basics of the most basic yet unbelievable, and yet here you are braging and trying to defend the failure of these failed games. Do your homework first, then come here and argue. 

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Is anyone else tired of borderline alt-right gamers who fancy themselves as some kind of video game industry analysts keen on telling you about why games didn’t succeed? Spoiler alert- it’s always because of wokeness or their new favorite word “DEI”. Everything they have to say comes from the outrage porn they watch on YouTube. Of all the things you could be watching on YouTube and you choose watch content from Griffin Gaming. If these channels actually cared about the gaming industry and the state of it, they would be highlighting indie games that are agreeable to the right wing incel mindset (games like that do exist), but they don’t even do that. Everything they focus on is negative opinions of AAA games because they know they will get more views by putting “modern slop” in their thumbnails and focusing on Concord.

[DOOM Maternal]

This guy said himself that hes fighting for a cause and wont quit until this HORRIBLE stuff is removed from the game industry. I think he actually believe this, but I think a lot of it comes from unhappiness, and the dopamine he gets from belittling anything he can. I've been there, years ago, when I was immature and angsty, but I grew up. (Actually, I have been having too much fun here making fun of this guy, I am still immature.)

All these people do is make these forums suck for everyone, the same mindless crap, every time.

I don't know why these guys get such joy out of bashing games for player numbers, look man, the AAA company does not care. Some ceo isn't going to read this and go "oh no I guess my games bad, oh no they are so mad on the steam forums!" It's the equivalent of throwing at each-other, like a bunch of dumb monkeys.

Look man, if I did a side quest in this game and one of the navi were like "Our kids are depressed and we have to perform a sex change ritual or else they'll die!" Then I would see this dudes point, but the GRAND majority of the time, just like in this game, it's nothing. Its literally nonsensical to waste your energy on this stuff.

Hes called me a "woke freak" but that's far from the truth. My ideals are actually quite right leaning, I'm just calling out dumb bs. These guys whine about nonsense in video-games, are not making their side look smart, they're embarrassing.

I'm not defending wokeness and i'm not defending CONCORD , why are you still going off about concord? Concord is an objective failure, I did not say it wasn't. Concord is like a trigger word for this guy, he can't stop.

But does he think concord was a failure because it had an ugly female character and pronouns? Or maybe it was because concord released in an over saturated genre, did nothing new, and had zero marketing. I'm going to guess that he thinks it FLOPPED because it was too "woke".

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by Day:

This guy said himself that hes fighting for a cause and wont quit until this HORRIBLE stuff is removed from the game industry. I think he actually believe this, but I think a lot of it comes from unhappiness, and the dopamine he gets from belittling anything he can. I've been there, years ago, when I was immature and angsty, but I grew up. (Actually, I have been having too much fun here making fun of this guy, I am still immature.)

All these people do is make these forums suck for everyone, the same mindless crap, every time.

I don't know why these guys get such joy out of bashing games for player numbers, look man, the AAA company does not care. Some ceo isn't going to read this and go "oh no I guess my games bad, oh no they are so mad on the steam forums!" It's the equivalent of throwing :repoop: at each-other, like a bunch of dumb monkeys.

Look man, if I did a side quest in this game and one of the navi were like "Our kids are depressed and we have to perform a sex change ritual or else they'll die!" Then I would see this dudes point, but the GRAND majority of the time, just like in this game, it's nothing. Its literally nonsensical to waste your energy on this stuff.

Hes called me a "woke freak" but that's far from the truth. My ideals are actually quite right leaning, I'm just calling out dumb bs. These guys whine about nonsense in video-games, are not making their side look smart, they're embarrassing.

I'm not defending wokeness and i'm not defending CONCORD , why are you still going off about concord? Concord is an objective failure, I did not say it wasn't. Concord is like a trigger word for this guy, he can't stop.

But does he think concord was a failure because it had an ugly female character and pronouns? Or maybe it was because concord released in an over saturated genre, did nothing new, and had zero marketing. I'm going to guess that he thinks it FLOPPED because it was too "woke".

I agree with you, I own avatar and recently bought Star Wars Outlaws and people say the same about it- “woke propaganda, forcing politics down our throat, leftist agenda, etc”. We are to the point where they say this about every major release now.

PlayStation Studios game?- Woke
Ubisoft game? Laced with DEI + Woke
Remedy game? Alan Woke 2
New Square Enix game? Censored + Woke Localization
New indie title? Forced leftist agenda

When I actually play the games though, I don’t really see anything to justify the rhetoric that these people use. I honestly think that a subsection of gaming channels that had found limited success beforehand have realized that there is this growing niche of players who for whatever unknown reason are extremely receptive to this “X game is woke and therefore it’s trash and we should all join forces to hate it together” content (I know what they say their reasons are- “we just want to play good games without politics in them”, a bold claim from individuals who seem to be hyper focused on anything that could possibly be construed as sociological or political every game that releases).

If you look back at certain channels like 8bit eric (another anti-woke gamer channel), you can see that he used to make normal gaming content but eventually pivoted to anti-DEI fearmongering because it made his views go up. All these channels do the same exact stories, right now it’s Star Wars Outlaws, before that it was Concord and Dustborn. And I don’t just mean cover the same games, I mean they will all show the same 2 or 3 clips which make the game look bad and have the exact same things to say about the game. It’s like they’re all part of the same anti-woke gaming content factory.

The people who watch it and buy into it literally see it as a war they are fighting. They don’t ask questions, if their YouTube channels tell them a game is bad, then they won’t question it. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it’s some kind of larger sinister conspiracy designed to radicalize white men towards the right and make them hate certain groups and anyone who disagrees with them. The most extreme ones have a lot in common with the alt right movement, I’m not trying to label them but they genuinely do share a lot of commonalities with those people whether or not they consciously believe in it. The content creators probably think their viewers are idiots but are happy to keep fueling the flames of the culture war in exchange for Youtube ad revenue.

I don’t believe it makes sense to have people hating games for having LGBT characters and people of color in them and other groups without eventually starting to also hate the groups of people themselves. Seems like a logical conclusion at some point.

And I don’t blame you for making fun of him, they are asking for it when they start making posts like this one.

[DOOM Maternal]

You reciprocate many of my thoughts better than I could have.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

When I actually play the games though, I don’t really see anything to justify the rhetoric that these people use.

I've honestly been trying to think of one overly egregious example and I can't. For this game apparently it's a white antagonist, and its theme on colonialism. Which is just what avatar has been about from it's inception 25 years ago. I like to believe that most people agree that our ancestors were pretty huge jerks in that regard. Especially considering the slavery, and torture. I'm not the biggest avatar fan, but i've never felt like the game or the movie was belittling me for being white in any way.

Concord had an ugly female character or two, and a small little indicator on the top right of the character select screen that said pronouns. Oh god, the woke agenda is being sooo pushed right now. Grab your pitchforks.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

I honestly think that subsection of gaming channels that had found limited success beforehand have realized that there is this growing niche of players who for whatever unknown reason are extremely receptive to this “X game is woke and therefore it’s trash and we should all join forces to hate it together” content (I know what they say their reasons are- “we just want to play good games without politics in them”, a bold claim from individuals who seem to be hyper focused on anything that could possibly be construed as sociological or political every game that releases).

I agree, people aren't going to spend hours a day constructing a video and not try to have it do the best that it can. It's a job for these people. The ones that don't mind diving into this outrage culture nonsense, will do so. Viewers develop relationships with them, and some eat up everything they say and bring it to the avatar steam forum.

It is ironic because these "issues" wouldn't get any clout without these people complaining about them. The publishers would see less engagement in general. It feels like these people "fighting" against the "wokeness" serve as marketing for the very things they hate. You're right, it is ironic, and they reach soooo far for any little thing. I wouldn't doubt that publishers realise this and insert these little things for this purpose.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it’s some kind of larger sinister conspiracy designed to radicalize white men towards the right and make them hate certain groups and anyone who disagrees with them.

I firmly believe that the large majority of people that complain about wokeness are not racists in real life, but yeah, I could very easily see this becoming an avenue for it. Young people on the internet man, very impressionable. I don't know man, the right and left might not exist as we see it. It could be one government that keeps everybody angry at each other all the time for the largest companies financial gain. Or maybe its just for distraction in general. Like some brave new world stuff but in reverse.

I really do think it's all about money. Its about outrage, engagement, and the puppets who go out and set it forth. It is a human instinct after all, social media has shown us pretty quickly how much we love controversy.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by Day:

You reciprocate many of my thoughts better than I could have.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

When I actually play the games though, I don’t really see anything to justify the rhetoric that these people use.

I've honestly been trying to think of one overly egregious example and I can't. For this game apparently it's a white antagonist, and its theme on colonialism. Which is just what avatar has been about from it's inception 25 years ago. I like to believe that most people agree that our ancestors were pretty huge jerks in that regard. Especially considering the slavery, and torture. I'm not the biggest avatar fan, but i've never felt like the game or the movie was belittling me for being white in any way.

Concord had an ugly female character or two, and a small little indicator on the top right of the character select screen that said pronouns. Oh god, the woke agenda is being sooo pushed right now. Grab your pitchforks.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

I honestly think that subsection of gaming channels that had found limited success beforehand have realized that there is this growing niche of players who for whatever unknown reason are extremely receptive to this “X game is woke and therefore it’s trash and we should all join forces to hate it together” content (I know what they say their reasons are- “we just want to play good games without politics in them”, a bold claim from individuals who seem to be hyper focused on anything that could possibly be construed as sociological or political every game that releases).

I agree, people aren't going to spend hours a day constructing a video and not try to have it do the best that it can. It's a job for these people. The ones that don't mind diving into this outrage culture nonsense, will do so. Viewers develop relationships with them, and some eat up everything they say and bring it to the avatar steam forum.

It is ironic because these "issues" wouldn't get any clout without these people complaining about them. The publishers would see less engagement in general. It feels like these people "fighting" against the "wokeness" serve as marketing for the very things they hate. You're right, it is ironic, and they reach soooo far for any little thing. I wouldn't doubt that publishers realise this and insert these little things for this purpose.

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it’s some kind of larger sinister conspiracy designed to radicalize white men towards the right and make them hate certain groups and anyone who disagrees with them.

I firmly believe that the large majority of people that complain about wokeness are not racists in real life, but yeah, I could very easily see this becoming an avenue for it. Young people on the internet man, very impressionable. I don't know man, the right and left might not exist as we see it. It could be one government that keeps everybody angry at each other all the time for the largest companies financial gain. Or maybe its just for distraction in general. Like some brave new world stuff but in reverse.

I really do think it's all about money. Its about outrage, engagement, and the puppets who go out and set it forth. It is a human instinct after all, social media has shown us pretty quickly how much we love controversy.

I’ve actually had the same thought before. That the YouTubers who purport to be against these games could even be acting in coordination with game publishers. Negative engagement is still engagement and the more videos there are complaining about X woke game, the more of a signal booster it is for that game. Causing more people to be aware of it and talk about, which presumably could help increase sales.

I agree that it’s all about money, there’s a line in the old film Jerry Macguire- “what’s the answer to 99 out of every 100 questions? Money”.