Denuvo RootKit spyware = no buy.

[Fibulator]

Why do game devs think they have a right to an *all* access pass to the contents of my harddrives, including stored passwords for online banking?

[Kunovega]

Denuvo anti-tamper doesn't run as a rootkit, it runs on user level, not kernel. Your complaint is invalid.

Denuvo anti-cheat runs on kernel level, this game doesn't use it. These are two entirely different pieces of software that happen to be made by the same company.
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Looking at your most played games list, ignoring the idle games: your three most played games actually have kernel level access built into their anti-cheat; both Lost Ark, EVE Online and Elder Scrolls Online have what you are complaining about; while Avatar does not.

It would appear you don't actually know the difference between anti-tamper and anti-cheat in general.

[Fibulator]

"it runs on user level, not kernel."
And why would I trust the word of a company that makes rootkits for devs to invade into the lives and confidential data of game customers?
I'm not buying any games with rootkits and/or spyware in them, or software made by companies that make rootkits.

Your opinion is invalid.

[Kunovega]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

"it runs on user level, not kernel."
And why would I trust the word of a company that makes rootkits for devs to invade into the lives and confidential data of game customers?
I'm not buying any games with rootkits and/or spyware in them, or software made by companies that make rootkits.

Your opinion is invalid.

I'm not posting an opinion.

Looking at your most played games list, ignoring the idle games: your three most played games actually have kernel level access built into their anti-cheat; both Lost Ark, EVE Online and Elder Scrolls Online have what you are complaining about; while Avatar does not.

It would appear you don't actually know the difference between anti-tamper and anti-cheat in general.

You don't need to trust anything these companies say, you can literally see what access these programs have from inside your OS shell. Your own computer would tell you these things if you knew how to use its security features.

You don't even need to believe me, you can check for yourself; you just don't appear to have any interest in learning the truth.

[Fibulator]

"Your complaint is invalid."
*IS* your opinion... that you posted.

[Kunovega]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

"Your complaint is invalid."
*IS* your opinion... that you posted.

Because your complaint is based on something that is inaccurate. Please try to keep up.

Literally your three most played games that aren't idle games all have anti-cheat kernel level access. The majority of the games you play that aren't idle games have this.

But you're complaining about Avatar, which doesn't even use an anti-cheat and only has a user level access anti-tamper check.

You can quite literally see what access any program has from within your own OS, you don't need to trust me or any company to see this. You do however need to learn how to use the security features of your computer OS and learn the difference between anti-tamper and anit-cheat.

I can point out the issues, but I can't teach you if you aren't willing to learn. Feel free to find your own sources since you don't trust me. I'm not posting opinions, everything I've said can be verified as fact if you aren't too busy pretending you are correct about an issue you've clearly spend no time learning about.

I'm sorry that you decided to blind trust the emotional noise from tik-tok and YouTube from clickbait videos spouting nonsense for views.

[ko]

I'm not a fan of Denuvo at all and would rather see it not used. But lets not say completely false things.

[Draxuss]

Oh ffs we don't care if you buy the game no need to announce it.

[Fibulator]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Draxuss:

Oh ffs we don't care if you buy the game no need to announce it.

No one gives AF about your opinion. This was directed at the devs.

[Kunovega]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Draxuss:

Oh ffs we don't care if you buy the game no need to announce it.

No one gives AF about your opinion. This was directed at the devs.

1. There's no developers reading these forums

2. Decisions about whether to use denuvo are made by publishers, not the developers, and they care even less about your opinion than the devs might

[Malkallam X]

Lmao it must physically hurt to be this stupid.

[Fibulator]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Malkallam X:

Lmao it must physically hurt to be this stupid.

You do sound like you're in a lot of pain.

[Devil Daughter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Malkallam X:

Lmao it must physically hurt to be this stupid.

You do sound like you're in a lot of pain.

You can't even tell he's talking about you. Typical dunning kruger

[Devil Daughter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Devil Daughter:

You can't even tell he's talking about you. Typical dunning kruger

You can't tell that was a burn redirect? Typical *****

You can't tell you failed? Typical *** **

[Draxuss]

Ha ha ha ha... OP banned.

[Draxuss]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fibulator:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Draxuss:

Oh ffs we don't care if you buy the game no need to announce it.

No one gives AF about your opinion. This was directed at the devs.

And the devs don't give AF about your opinion...