Salt and Sanctuary

Salt and Sanctuary

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Viper May 17, 2016 @ 3:42pm
People are saying the game is like Dark Souls
I watched a Lets Play ( ChristoperOdd )for awhile and it really is not. Its a 2D platformer. Much more like a Metroid game than Dark Souls. A game just being difficult does not make it like Dark Souls. Plus the salt mechanic and the fact that you can lose salt which is used to level and have to regain it is similar. But that is it. DId not give me a Dark Souls vibe at all.

Although I am kind of interested the fact that you have to run over and over again over the same areas seems kind of repetitous. I am afraid I would lose interest quickly.
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KRINGO May 17, 2016 @ 3:52pm 
So are you just aggressively blind or what?
dreadmaster May 17, 2016 @ 4:04pm 
Yes the Salt is Darksouls mechanic but other than that there is also the combat vibe of shielding and waiting for an oppurtunity rather than just going wild like a normal hack and slash game. The healing potions work like estus flasks in the sense that they are replenished when you find or revisit a checkpoint. There are miracles and magic similar to darksouls and ontop of all that builds and character direction generally follows the same premise and basis of souls. My first chracter is a strength build that can use miracles. Sounds like a Darksouls build to me but I digress. Like your title says its like Darksouls not an exact replica in a 2d form.
Viper May 17, 2016 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by Tremor Dominus:
Yes the Salt is Darksouls mechanic but other than that there is also the combat vibe of shielding and waiting for an oppurtunity rather than just going wild like a normal hack and slash game. The healing potions work like estus flasks in the sense that they are replenished when you find or revisit a checkpoint. There are miracles and magic similar to darksouls and ontop of all that builds and character direction generally follows the same premise and basis of souls. My first chracter is a strength build that can use miracles. Sounds like a Darksouls build to me but I digress. Like your title says its like Darksouls not an exact replica in a 2d form.

Don't care about any of those things. The game does not play like Dark Souls at all. Its a Metroid 2D platformer. That is what it is. SImilar game systems do not make it a Dark Souls game. Its not going to give you the same kind of experience.
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Amos May 17, 2016 @ 4:16pm 
That's why people are saying it's a 2D Dark Souls? Because it plays in 2D and not in full 3D?
Kain May 17, 2016 @ 4:21pm 
Why do you even care what people think the game is like? if you dont think its like DS or you do, why would you even post this? waste of time.
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Viper May 17, 2016 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by Amos:
That's why people are saying it's a 2D Dark Souls? Because it plays in 2D and not in full 3D?

The gameplay has absolutely no similarity to Dark Souls.Its a Metroid Platformer with some systems similar to Dark Souls ( not exactly the same however ).
DeadScreenSky May 17, 2016 @ 4:25pm 
I'm not even an hour in, but it has otherworldy messages, the same kind of leveling system, ghosts of other dead players, the need to go back to get your salt/souls, very similar combat mechanics, many of the same monsters (to be fair, fantasy standards all), a nearly identical character creation setup, slight variations of actual Souls dialogue ("Praise the _____" has been used twice so far), and even very similar stylistic flourishes like the boss defeated text, similar audio cues, and so on.

Sure, the game is a lot like the Dishwasher series too (which are fantastic), but honestly this game is inspired by the Souls games to an almost shameful degree. This game really, really wants to be Dark Souls.

And duh, of course Souls games play a lot like Metroid and Castlevania, they weren't created out of nothing either.

None of this is to imply criticism of any of the games I listed. But it's silly to pretend this isn't a very Dark Souls game.
Warlord May 17, 2016 @ 4:42pm 
Wow. It's like trying to claim Borderlands is not at ALL like diablo, it's just a Doom clone with some similar mechanics.
Fikxion May 17, 2016 @ 4:53pm 
Can you grind in this game?
SirusTheMadDJ May 17, 2016 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
The gameplay has absolutely no similarity to Dark Souls.It {has} some systems similar to Dark Souls ( not exactly the same however ).

Same concept of Souls. Salt is lost on death, but recoverable, and is used to level up and buy weapon upgrades.

Same inventory system. Equipped items had weight, and there's break limits that effect your style of Roll.

Same world building. Players can leave messages helping or tricking players.

Similar design choices. Limited direct conversations detailing the world, leading the player to have to piece the rest from item descriptions and what you're told.

The only changes from the Soulslike formula is the perspective and the Metriodvania-style brands that open up new areas.

And it's still an awesome title for it.

"Clone" isn't strictly a negative term. All games, and media in general, take ideas from other sources and build upon. Which S&S does beautifully.

SirusTheMadDJ May 17, 2016 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Ryne:
Can you grind in this game?

Yes.
Kharnivore2099 May 17, 2016 @ 5:36pm 
It has a few similarities to Dark Souls, you'd have to be in denial not to see that. Hence why people say it is "like" Dark Souls.

From what I saw of people playing it and what I have played myself, it's just as much Dark Souls as it is Metroid. Saying it's nothing at all like it would be fairly ridiculous.
Jae May 17, 2016 @ 5:37pm 
Step 1: denial
Katz May 17, 2016 @ 6:05pm 
Salty indeed...
Newgobli May 17, 2016 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
Originally posted by Amos:
That's why people are saying it's a 2D Dark Souls? Because it plays in 2D and not in full 3D?

The gameplay has absolutely no similarity to Dark Souls.Its a Metroid Platformer with some systems similar to Dark Souls ( not exactly the same however ).
Bad troll is bad.
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