Possible to "Cheat" a Stone Sellsword into the game?

[AlanOC91]

Long story short, me and my buddy played through all of this local co-op. We got to the last boss and before fighting him we decided to do an optional area. So we desecrated a Sanctuary for a Stained Page (which didn't end up working over a glitch). I ended up killing my Stone Sellsword sanctuary (the other is also hostile to me) and we can no longer co-op which is SUPER frustrating.

Any solution besides NG+? I find it ridiculous there is only 2 in the whole game.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by AlanOC91:

Long story short, me and my buddy played through all of this local co-op. We got to the last boss and before fighting him we decided to do an optional area. So we desecrated a Sanctuary for a Stained Page (which didn't end up working over a glitch). I ended up killing my Stone Sellsword sanctuary (the other is also hostile to me) and we can no longer co-op which is SUPER frustrating.

Any solution besides NG+? I find it ridiculous there is only 2 in the whole game.

I think you can join the co-op of one of your other characters, and have them throw one at you.
You can also choose it as a starting gift.

[Gysahl Greens]

(My Steam playtime isn't reflective of my total time with this game. I have the PS4 and PS Vita version as well, with 80+ hours over there.)

Hm... What is that glitch that ruined the desecration? I have successfully expunged at least 7 sanctuaries and haven't found any glitches on the way. Desecrating any sanctuary is a very heavy decision and shouldn't be done on a whim, I'm sure you know at this point. If there is an NPC you want in a sanctuary of a different creed, a Crystal Sphere will convert the whole sanctuary to yours, including any NPCs currently in it.

For stone sellswords, I think there should be more than 2 in the whole game based on a few runs of my chars. The wiki that is most commonly used is still very much a work in progress. There might be 4 in a whole, single run of the game.

[AlanOC91]

Originally posted by Ceroen_Hyalstor:

(My Steam playtime isn't reflective of my total time with this game. I have the PS4 and PS Vita version as well, with 80+ hours over there.)

Hm... What is that glitch that ruined the desecration? I have successfully expunged at least 7 sanctuaries and haven't found any glitches on the way. Desecrating any sanctuary is a very heavy decision and shouldn't be done on a whim, I'm sure you know at this point. If there is an NPC you want in a sanctuary of a different creed, a Crystal Sphere will convert the whole sanctuary to yours, including any NPCs currently in it.

For stone sellswords, I think there should be more than 2 in the whole game based on a few runs of my chars. The wiki that is most commonly used is still very much a work in progress. There might be 4 in a whole, single run of the game.

We were in local co-op, went to one of the Sanctuaries, desecrated it no bother. I knew I had to die so I let myself be killed, it's then when we noticed that my co-op partner wasn't being damaged, it was like he was invincible. He also couldn't leave the room and we needed to die to get the item.

So I quit the game. Loaded it back up, went back to the sanctuary (it was still desecrated) and got myself killed. No item.

I'm pretty sure there is only 2 sellswords in the game. I checked the wiki and it said 2 :(
It totally killed our hype to complete the game. The only way we will play again is if I can "cheat engine" in a sellsword or something. Is it possible?

[Gysahl Greens]

It sounds like you were trying to get a Bloody Writ to join the Order of The Betrayer? (If you are trying to get Expunged Hearts, then that just requires completely defeating the desecrated sanctuary.) I believe you need to rest (press circle) at the Creed icon of yours of a different sanctuary than the one you are desecrating for the Bloody Writ to spawn properly. If you rest at the sanctuary you are desecrating before actually desecrating it, then the game tries to revive you at that same sanctuary which won't work since they are now hostile to you. It seems that this causes issues for people trying to acquire the Bloody Writ. On the wiki page for the writ, people have discussed conflicting occurrences for how to actually get it too. It may be a currently misunderstood mechanic and needs more input from more players (just like for many things about this game) to know how it actually would work 100% of the time. It's just a side effect for a game that intentionally doesn't hold the players' hands the whole way.

Did your friend try using a calling horn to warp to another sanctuary after you died? This probably would help to obtain your Writ after you die. Some have also said that you actually don't have to die. Warping out with a calling horn can work for getting the Writ too.

[AlanOC91]

Originally posted by Ceroen_Hyalstor:

It sounds like you were trying to get a Bloody Writ to join the Order of The Betrayer? (If you are trying to get Expunged Hearts, then that just requires completely defeating the desecrated sanctuary.) I believe you need to rest (press circle at the Creed icon of yours of a different sanctuary than the one you are desecrating) for the Bloody Writ to spawn properly. If you rest at the sanctuary you are desecrating before actually desecrating it, then the game tries to revive you at that same sanctuary which won't work since they are now hostile to you. It seems that this causes issues for people trying to acquire the Bloody Writ. On the wiki page for the writ, people have discussed conflicting occurrences for how to actually get it too. It may be a currently misunderstood mechanic and needs more input from more players (just like for many things about this game) to know how it actually would work 100% of the time.

Did your friend try using a calling horn to warp to another sanctuary after you died? This probably would help to obtain your Writ after you die. Some have also said that you actually don't have to die. Warping out with a calling horn can work for getting the Writ too.

Yep we were trying to get the Bloody Writ. My friend did eventually use a calling horn and we went back but the same issue happened where he couldn't take damage. So I quit to the main menu and loaded back in on my own. Went to the sanctuary, died, rested at another sanctuary and no item :(

That's the least of my worries now though. At this stage we just BADLY want to finish the game on co-op. Is there a way to either 1: Revive the Sellsword NPC that was killed? or 2: Get another stone sellsword somehow?

I believe when I desecrated 1 Sanctuary the other one of the same creed also went hostile? Because I couldn't travel to it. Coincidentally both of those Sanctuaries had my only 2 Sellswords. So can I make one not hostile anymore to use the NPC again possibly?

[GODKaiserOs]

Go to the lady that cleanses your sins. After redemption for a hefty fee the creeds you pissed off, gona be friendly again.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by GODKaiser.Osakader.Radierer:

Go to the lady that cleanses your sins. After redemption for a hefty fee the creeds you pissed off, gona be friendly again.

I attempted doing this in ng+, all the sanctuaries I expunged in the previous game were still hostile in the new game despite wiping my sins.
I'm guessing this is a bug?

[GODKaiserOs]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Originally posted by GODKaiser.Osakader.Radierer:

Go to the lady that cleanses your sins. After redemption for a hefty fee the creeds you pissed off, gona be friendly again.

I attempted doing this in ng+, all the sanctuaries I expunged in the previous game were still hostile in the new game despite wiping my sins.
I'm guessing this is a bug?

OK so i checked the Wiki page for the Candlelit Lady and she can forgive sins and cleanse corruption.

Services
Forgive Sin: Cleanse all sin for 1,000 salt per sin, 10,000 salt per sanctuary desecration.
Cleanse: Cleanse all corruption for 10 Salt per 1 corruption.

so now for what Sins do i found this:

Sin will prevent you from rejoining a previously abandoned creed, and their respective, default sanctuary NPCs will react to your denouncement, some of them refusing to offer their services. Desecrating a sanctuary is much more serious; you lose the abilities to teleport to, heal at, level up at, or take oaths to any sanctuary of a creed you have desecrated, and you will be attacked upon entering.

There was actually no Page for corruption but i found something in the notes section of the Blood Phials WikiPage:

Corruption appears to cause other Creeds to be automatically hostile towards the player after obtaining 300 Corruption, regardless of Sin
Corruption doesn't seem to change character appearance whatsoever, but it does change the UI or border of the game from white to black.
It is possible to be cleansed of this Corruption by paying Salt to The Candlelit Lady.

I hope it helps.

[AlanOC91]

Originally posted by GODKaiser.Osakader.Radierer:

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

I attempted doing this in ng+, all the sanctuaries I expunged in the previous game were still hostile in the new game despite wiping my sins.
I'm guessing this is a bug?

OK so i checked the Wiki page for the Candlelit Lady and she can forgive sins and cleanse corruption.

Services
Forgive Sin: Cleanse all sin for 1,000 salt per sin, 10,000 salt per sanctuary desecration.
Cleanse: Cleanse all corruption for 10 Salt per 1 corruption.

so now for what Sins do i found this:

Sin will prevent you from rejoining a previously abandoned creed, and their respective, default sanctuary NPCs will react to your denouncement, some of them refusing to offer their services. Desecrating a sanctuary is much more serious; you lose the abilities to teleport to, heal at, level up at, or take oaths to any sanctuary of a creed you have desecrated, and you will be attacked upon entering.

There was actually no Page for corruption but i found something in the notes section of the Blood Phials WikiPage:

Corruption appears to cause other Creeds to be automatically hostile towards the player after obtaining 300 Corruption, regardless of Sin
Corruption doesn't seem to change character appearance whatsoever, but it does change the UI or border of the game from white to black.
It is possible to be cleansed of this Corruption by paying Salt to The Candlelit Lady.

I hope it helps.

Thanks for this, appreciate it. I'm going to try cleanse everything and see if that gives us a life-line, thanks!

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by GODKaiser.Osakader.Radierer:

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

I attempted doing this in ng+, all the sanctuaries I expunged in the previous game were still hostile in the new game despite wiping my sins.
I'm guessing this is a bug?

OK so i checked the Wiki page for the Candlelit Lady and she can forgive sins and cleanse corruption.

Services
Forgive Sin: Cleanse all sin for 1,000 salt per sin, 10,000 salt per sanctuary desecration.
Cleanse: Cleanse all corruption for 10 Salt per 1 corruption.

so now for what Sins do i found this:

Sin will prevent you from rejoining a previously abandoned creed, and their respective, default sanctuary NPCs will react to your denouncement, some of them refusing to offer their services. Desecrating a sanctuary is much more serious; you lose the abilities to teleport to, heal at, level up at, or take oaths to any sanctuary of a creed you have desecrated, and you will be attacked upon entering.

There was actually no Page for corruption but i found something in the notes section of the Blood Phials WikiPage:

Corruption appears to cause other Creeds to be automatically hostile towards the player after obtaining 300 Corruption, regardless of Sin
Corruption doesn't seem to change character appearance whatsoever, but it does change the UI or border of the game from white to black.
It is possible to be cleansed of this Corruption by paying Salt to The Candlelit Lady.

I hope it helps.

Thanks man! I think that was my problem.
I ended up desecrating....pretty much every sanctuary in my og game and never cleansed my corruption.