This game used to be a crypto game

[Bummer6]

So I follow a youtuber called Jauwn who specializes in uncovering terrible crypto games. In his latest video on Gala Games I was surprised to see Forever Winter come up. Apparently this game was supposed to be a crypto game on the exceptionally terrible Gala Games platform. Upon learning this I immediately refunded the game since I hadn't been able to play much (had major performance issues). I might re-purchase later if the performance issues are fixed and this actually turns out to be legit, but as soon as I heard these people used to be involved in crypto, my trust for the team plummeted.

I think people should be aware of this before they spend their money on this. I'm not saying it's 100% going to be a cashgrab, but just be very cautious when dealing with anything relating to crypto or web3. That space is absolutely rife with scammers

For reference, here's the video;
https://youtu.be/mzVj5ID9K88?t=2095

Forever Winter is mentioned at 34:57

[Panther]

Originally posted by Qau'lthir:

It's a good thing that they changed their mind. Anything associated with that Web3 crap is slop made manifest.

As people keep finding out, if you ever need to flee an unstable state and take your value with you, or be able to trade out of an asset without restriction, you might appreciate the type of decentralisation that's only possible with blockchain, and the types of exchanges only possible by through contracts.
It's just like AI there's a heap of people who take advantage of peoples fear and greed, but there are also some really useful tools that come out of the hype.

[Richi]

Originally posted by OTMOPO3OK:

Well, shoot... I'm past the refund point. Sad.
Only thing left to do is wait and see, hoping they deliver and stand by their new messaging.

I'm sure they're past the point of turning this game into some crypto crap. I mean their whole marketing point is about NOT being like the other modern games, aiming for highest profits with little to no concern about actual player satisfaction. So far I'm really enjoying the game and if all of the bigger problems are taken care of, this game will be a real killer for me.

The way the game is headed right now looks really really good right now.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Bummer6:

So I follow a youtuber called ...
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I'm not saying it's 100% going to be a cashgrab, but just be very cautious when dealing with anything relating to crypto or web3. That space is absolutely rife with scammers
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Why is there no mention anywhere of the Forever Winter Graphic novel comic ... or am I blind & deaf and missed it?

Welp, the game has none of that and has made strong promises against that.
I backed games like Dwarf Fortress, Kenshi, Rimworld, Starsector, PZ and others. Wiling to take a chance on the Forever Winter early access. The world building and art tickles my Gamma World itch a little like CDDA did.

Have fun playing something else

[Welbert Asker]

you need to get off the internet for a while my man

[83athom]

Originally posted by Hermano:

Steam doesnt alow that kind of programs to run ........

Originally posted by dc2integra4life:

Cool story bro...Steam doesn't allow those sorts of games on this platform. Get over yourself and your "research".

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1613100/Rioters_2025/ ^Actual fake game that installs a crypto mine on your PC.

But yeah OP didn't actually understand the context of what they were quoting.

[OTMOPO3OK]

Originally posted by Richi:

Originally posted by OTMOPO3OK:

Well, shoot... I'm past the refund point. Sad.
Only thing left to do is wait and see, hoping they deliver and stand by their new messaging.

I'm sure they're past the point of turning this game into some crypto crap. I mean their whole marketing point is about NOT being like the other modern games, aiming for highest profits with little to no concern about actual player satisfaction. So far I'm really enjoying the game and if all of the bigger problems are taken care of, this game will be a real killer for me.

The way the game is headed right now looks really really good right now.

Sure thing, I got over 30 myself exploring the maps and playing around with janky mechanics.
But had I known this before, I would've kept my distance, until it was clear to me if this ever gets finished.
I keep cryptobros at a safe distance, and have zero tolerance towards NFT crap.
If they share these views and that was the reason they broke ties with that publisher, good. But nobody knows for sure, and I don't care, at this point only actions would matter, not words. I'm sticking around because I got no choice, not because I trust anyone involved.

[CATTY&Co.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvs1pl4P2LU

Gala have another previous shooter: The Last Expedition, which also has clunky, vehicle-style movement, forces third-person view, feature of iron-sight aiming with add-ons, and a "stability" property modelled as an rng offset along 4-axes (which is probably so that sniper weapons can't be used to overcome DPS paywalls).

The vehicle-style movement is interesting because in TLE the player often is riding an actual hoverboard, which they probably sell you in the cash-shop.


1. Is TFW a reskin of TLE?

2. Is TFW confirmed to use UE5 or have people taken Fun Dog's word for it?

3. TLE has in common with TFW unwarranted high system requirements (https://lastexpedition.game/setup-help)


That's enough for me to look differently at Fun Dog's decision to release the game unoptimized.

If the only people I had ever broken bread with publicly were crypto, I'd make sure any code I released in the rest of my life was free and open source. Or I'd at least make sure that before my next commercial venture, I first put out an open source project or two, so that people could tell crypto wasn't pulling my strings, and that I have real skills and use them for good sometimes.

In the last 48 hours, the concurrent players has slipped faster than before, https://steamdb.info/app/2828860/charts/#1m

Once this gets below 1k they would have difficulty flipping the property.

I think still no further hotfix, but they have pushed out a new batch of Youtube videos through small creators to Germany, Italy, Japan.

If they wanted to maximise sales, I think they would take the product off the shelf for a while. I think they would also extend the refund window, because as a gesture that would reassure more potential customers than they had to give refunds to.

And if they wanted to flip the IP, they might get closer to v1.0 before launching into more territories. Because then you don't risk cultural differences about whether programmers are artists who are supported by patrons, or craftspeople whose pride comes from the products they finish. Also if a buyer thinks the US launch was botched it muddies the water a bit. You can say "yes the launch could have been better but the relaunch will be like Asia"

If a company isn't revenue-maximising, that opens it's really channel-generating and the real product is $20,000 monke gifs.

[obsessedwithpineapples2223]

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvs1pl4P2LU

Gala have another previous shooter: The Last Expedition, which also has clunky, vehicle-style movement, forces third-person view, feature of iron-sight aiming with add-ons, and a "stability" property modelled as an rng offset along 4-axes (which is probably so that sniper weapons can't be used to overcome DPS paywalls).

The vehicle-style movement is interesting because in TLE the player often is riding an actual hoverboard, which they probably sell you in the cash-shop.


1. Is TFW a reskin of TLE?

2. Is TFW confirmed to use UE5 or have people taken Fun Dog's word for it?

3. TLE has in common with TFW unwarranted high system requirements (https://lastexpedition.game/setup-help)


That's enough for me to look differently at Fun Dog's decision to release the game unoptimized.

If the only people I had ever broken bread with publicly were crypto, I'd make sure any code I released in the rest of my life was free and open source. Or I'd at least make sure that before my next commercial venture, I first put out an open source project or two, so that people could tell crypto wasn't pulling my strings, and that I have real skills and use them for good sometimes.

In the last 48 hours, the concurrent players has slipped faster than before, https://steamdb.info/app/2828860/charts/#1m

Once this gets below 1k they would have difficulty flipping the property.

I think still no further hotfix, but they have pushed out a new batch of Youtube videos through small creators to Germany, Italy, Japan.

If they wanted to maximise sales, I think they would take the product off the shelf for a while. I think they would also extend the refund window, because as a gesture that would reassure more potential customers than they had to give refunds to.

And if they wanted to flip the IP, they might get closer to v1.0 before launching into more territories. Because then you don't risk cultural differences about whether programmers are artists who are supported by patrons, or craftspeople whose pride comes from the products they finish. Also if a buyer thinks the US launch was botched it muddies the water a bit. You can say "yes the launch could have been better but the relaunch will be like Asia"

If a company isn't revenue-maximising, that opens it's really channel-generating and the real product is $20,000 monke gifs.

brother gets unbanned and goes right back to grifting and making absurd presumptions to try and bait for steam points

dude get a hobby

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

2. Is TFW confirmed to use UE5 or have people taken Fun Dog's word for it?

Game depot: https://steamdb.info/depot/2828861/

Uses xaudio 2.9, Unreal engine 4 is on 2.7.

[CATTY&Co.]

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Game depot: https://steamdb.info/depot/2828861/

Uses xaudio 2.9, Unreal engine 4 is on 2.7.

That's probably a self-declaration from when the devs set the game up. How do we know it's true?

Sorry, no - I thought you were linking some steamdb metadata

This list doesn't reference Unreal Engine and if it did there is still the question how do we know they haven't used the same filenames

[Mandemon]

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Game depot: https://steamdb.info/depot/2828861/

Uses xaudio 2.9, Unreal engine 4 is on 2.7.

That's probably a self-declaration from when the devs set the game up. How do we know it's true?

Do you have any actual evidence it is not Unreal 5, or are you just "asking questions"?

Can we trust you are not a grifter trying to spread false information?

[CATTY&Co.]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

That's probably a self-declaration from when the devs set the game up. How do we know it's true?

Do you have any actual evidence it is false, or are you just "asking questions"?

Can we trust you are not competing grifter trying to spread false information?

It can't be falsely claiming it is Unreal Engine, because it doesn't mention Unreal Engine at all.

What I want is the evidence to back up the claim it is Unreal Engine - Steam probably don't audit that. And if there is an NFT business in the background and the game has launched with bloated system requirements then the provenance of the game files and their network traffic might be worth customers having a good look at.

[obsessedwithpineapples2223]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

That's probably a self-declaration from when the devs set the game up. How do we know it's true?

Do you have any actual evidence it is not Unreal 5, or are you just "asking questions"?

Can we trust you are not a grifter trying to spread false information?

they've already been banned for doing nothing but spreading misinfo trying to farm steam points

[Mandemon]

Originally posted by CATTY&Co.:

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Do you have any actual evidence it is false, or are you just "asking questions"?

Can we trust you are not competing grifter trying to spread false information?

It can't be falsely claiming it is Unreal Engine, because it doesn't mention Unreal Engine at all.

What I want is the evidence to back up the claim it is Unreal Engine - Steam probably don't audit that. And if there is an NFT business in the background and the game has launched with bloated system requirements then the provenance of the game files and their network traffic might be worth customers having a good look at.

Dude. It's 0.1.3 version. It's very early Alpha. It's not a complete release version. How the ♥♥♥♥ you missed this? They are working on optimization, the game was not originally even meant to enter Early Access but they got so much fan support they decided to go ahead with it.

Also, did you miss the fact that whole Gala deal fell through exactly because Gala wanted to put NFTs in, and Fun Dog Studios said no?

So far, all you have done is JAQing off without anything to backup your nonsense claims. For a game you don't even own.

[CATTY&Co.]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Can we trust you are not competing grifter trying to spread false information?

[/quote]

I've shown the video of the other Gala game with the similar looking engine and the similar looking gameplay problems. If you have better information you can put it here.

I couldn't care less if I'm trusted - "trust me" is what people selling undeveloped games open their trailers with.