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Ericgi231 15 AGO 2014 a las 22:49
How do you beat Tomomo?
I'm on the final level of QP's campaign and I can't beat Tomomo or Yuki. I'm on attempt 57 and Tomomo or Yuki have won within the first 30 chapters almost every time. I have tried every character and nothing is working.
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very sketch 15 AGO 2014 a las 23:09 
I used Yuki and prayed to god that Yuki+Tomomo would go after eachother.

With Yuki, I focused on wins since the map turns into a huge battlefield for a few turns. I think I used dash cards, healing cards and attack up cards.
Ericgi231 16 AGO 2014 a las 0:57 
That has been my strategy for the last 20 runs, tomomo and yuki always out kill me. By the time I get 6 kills they both already have 14 and there's nothing I can do about it. I never get near them and get no cards that can stop them, they just win before I even have a chance. Is there any way to just cheat like tomomo?
Some ideas:
* play Marc and use your hyper to knock out Tomomo (and get wins too)
* play Fernet and stock cards that help you get stars
* put traps on Tomomo's home panel
* stock Here & There as an instant win-preventer
If I recall correctly, the AI on that map is to take the outside loop until the norma is fulfilled and then stay outside until approaching one's home square, then go to one's home square.
UnLuckyCat 16 AGO 2014 a las 8:20 
Is it even possible to have Marc in QP's campaign? I would absolutely have loved to use her for that map, but she never showed up in the shop until after I beat it. I tried Yuki and Peat a few times until Sora randomly unlocked, who I would recommend using if only for the Hyper card that eliminates all luck (from your own rolls).

Stars seem to me like a very bad Norma choice since the map has a Battlefield effect and none of the monsters last long enough to be worth much more than a win. The CPU cheats super hard so sniping one of them or the boss is next to impossible unless you dog Poppo the entire game.

Super All Out can backfire on you pretty badly, but feel free to waste as many I'm on Fire cards or the like, even on trash mobs just to secure some easy kills. The usual warping traps or effects are an obvious choice, but even a simple Long Range Shot can help prevent the CPUs from killswapping. Draw cards can help get you a much needed Hyper that much sooner, too. I personally got some good mileage out of Forced Revive and Dinner, but that's a bit more situational. Try to avoid relying too much on expensive cards though, since again, stars are rather scarce here.
I've definitely won using Fernet before, on stars norma.

I generally didn't like Super All-Out Mode when I played, so I didn't use it much, but intuition tells me it probably depends a lot on positioning. There are only four warp panels (and no Random Warp) on the Tomomo's Abyss map, so aside from any Here & There plays, positioning is relatively set. If you're using an attacker character, try your best to use SAOM only when you're close to catching up to someone, and that someone is either Tomomo with 1-2 HP or Poppo with 1-4 HP.

Forced Revival is situational but can be used to "reset" Tomomo's revive counter if need be. Or an easy kill on Poppo.

I do wanna comment that the wins norma is currently 14. It used to be 15, but was changed to 14 for multiplayer balance. However, I think it still goes by 14 here (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so that actually probably has made Tomomo scenarios harder.

(For what it's worth, Fernet's Hyper card also got buffed -- it now returns 15 stars per KO it causes.)
Última edición por Quint the Alligator Snapper; 16 AGO 2014 a las 10:08
LUSCA 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:14 
Got reall close had +150 stars, Yuki was one tile away from winning the game and her turn was right after me. I rolled a 5, noticed I land on a home tile with Tomomo near death and 270 stars. Suddenly I can win the game.
Engaged with attack booster, all I had to do was hit the last boss and win. Epic finish right?

Rolled a 1. Died. Lol Yuki Wins.
...............
I love this game
UnLuckyCat 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:18 
I have gotten 200 stars before on that map, but it can easily be lost if either of the +2 Atk CPUs look at you funny with how bad the luck mods are in the campaign. Poppo can also steal a large chunk of your hard earned cash any time she feels like it, and the field itself is very stingy unless you snipe a boss (which the CPU doesn't even need to whittle all the way down to 1hp). The CPUs waste a lot of time dead and trading stars, so even going after them isn't often good business sense. Had a match once where everyone had ~50 stars by the end.

SAOM is still bad with good positioning since the other two characters obviously still get it. Target Poppo and both of the other contenders get a free kill on their next battle, which can cost you the game. Granted, they usually do that anyway, but now they can do it against each other or a boss too.

I still don't like Fernet's Hyper since people will rarely ever all be at 1HP, even if you try to set it up beforehand. If they actually vary from 1-3, then you might not make back the cost of the card. I've certainly had some fun with it in multiplayer, but not as a money maker. I'd much prefer if it did a flat 2 damage to everyone, even yourself, or only did 1 but cost less. Really situational to kill someone at a distance while at the same time weakening someone close by for a battle. I'd rather just Long Range Shot at that point. Might just be me, though. And that from a guy who routinely plays Yuki with a full deck of seagulls.
LunarRay 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:31 
Since you have QP (Who has no stat modifiers), might I suggest Reverse attribute field? Also bring Oh My Friend to call out the boss, denying constant win farming for Tomomo. QP's hyper is very valuble for fending off or even attacking the enemy as well.
Última edición por LunarRay; 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:32
UnLuckyCat 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:38 
But Tomomo intentionally calls out a boss in order to farm it.... and all the other tiles have normal battles, not to mention other players to go after
LunarRay 16 AGO 2014 a las 11:46 
On my run, tomomo still died to the boss a few times, stalling her advance to obtaining win normas she is so intent on choosing.
Ericgi231 16 AGO 2014 a las 12:27 
Thanks for all the help, I finally did it on try 72 as Marc. I did not draw a single hyper the whole game but suki and tomomo just fought eachother the whole time and kept landing on teleporters that sent them away from their home. In the end it was all luck.
Ericgi231 16 AGO 2014 a las 14:11 
Wow, then I beat her first try on Marcs campaign as Marc. Her hyper really helps if you get it.
Fishy Justice 17 AGO 2014 a las 11:07 
Poppo. POPPO. POPPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPO.
Ellies 17 AGO 2014 a las 11:34 
I used yuki to beat this level and choose all the fight option, as tomomo would strip your stars anyway
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