There's more than one Simon. And it's more than 3.

[MOM]

Most of us would know that there's about 3 Simons by now. One in the diver suit, one in the power suit, and another in the ARK. Well there has to be atleast one more, and the reason being is this:
When someone is put into a robot, there has to be one other copy of them in order to make that robot. It couldn't have been the original Simon, (he died approximately 100 years before SOMA happened) so it would have to be another Simon robot. The start is just you waking up. The other Simon is gone. This opens a lot of possibilities, suggesting you could've been the other Simon, but when you were switching into the other body, you just woke up in the wrong one.

[Canadian Gamer]

How do you figure? The WAU upladed your 'profile' from a file in PATHOS-II's memory. All it had to do was transfer your scan from a hard drive to the cortex chip you wake up as.

[AyanneCZ]

You have the option to delete the original Simon scan in Catherine's lab.

[MOM]

There would have to be atleast one other Simon to transfer that scan. The original scan was at theta, so it would be hard to do that.

Originally posted by HurricaneJesus:

How do you figure? The WAU upladed your 'profile' from a file in PATHOS-II's memory. All it had to do was transfer your scan from a hard drive to the cortex chip you wake up as.

[keastes]

If that were the case then simon would have had some idea what was going on, waking up in Upsilon with some contiunity. My question is who put simon's body together? we have Reed minus the top half of her head, a cortex Assembly, and a container of structure gel shoved ina dive suit. with the WAU lacking any kind of direct manipulative ability, some one had to put that together, and in a sealed room no less.

Originally posted by *####9AC0:

There would have to be atleast one other Simon to transfer that scan. The original scan was at theta, so it would be hard to do that.

Originally posted by HurricaneJesus:

How do you figure? The WAU upladed your 'profile' from a file in PATHOS-II's memory. All it had to do was transfer your scan from a hard drive to the cortex chip you wake up as.

[MOM]

Well, in the beginning of the game there's multiple diving suits in the room. Maybe the older Simon got some structure gel (there's gel leaking in the kitchen area) , a cortex chip (there's a robot repair area near by) and maybe a power pack from the area. I think the reason Simon had no idea what was going on is because he was the older Simon. The new Simon woke up in the other body and left, while he was left there and confused. He even woke up in a pilots chair if that seems more convincing.

Originally posted by keastes:

If that were the case then simon would have had some idea what was going on, waking up in Upsilon with some contiunity. My question is who put simon's body together? we have Reed minus the top half of her head, a cortex Assembly, and a container of structure gel shoved ina dive suit. with the WAU lacking any kind of direct manipulative ability, some one had to put that together, and in a sealed room no less.

Originally posted by *####9AC0:

There would have to be atleast one other Simon to transfer that scan. The original scan was at theta, so it would be hard to do that.

[keastes]

Originally posted by *####9AC0:

Well, in the beginning of the game there's multiple diving suits in the room. Maybe the older Simon got some structure gel (there's gel leaking in the kitchen area) , a cortex chip (there's a robot repair area near by) and maybe a power pack from the area. I think the reason Simon had no idea what was going on is because he was the older Simon. The new Simon woke up in the other body and left, while he was left there and confused. He even woke up in a pilots chair if that seems more convincing.

Then why was the control console for the chair locked down remotely? lets call him Simon' sets up the suit, starts a transfer, but where does that transfer originate? Simon is already in the chair sans mind, in the avalible areas there there is no other chair for Simon' to upload from. In theroy, I Suppose you could use the omnitool station to program a cortex chip, seeing as it was network connected to some extent, then use the chair to "initialize" the gel to bind everything together. come to think of it, isnt that how WAU was able to revive ross?

[Lucius Caesar]

Nah, Simon was uploaded into the suit by the WAU itself. There's a line that hints to it when you kill the WAU. I forget who it was compelling you to kill the WAU and his exact working but he actually refers to you as something like "the hand with which the WAU will destroy itself".

The implication being that it uploaded you by accident. in fact all the machines thinking they were living humans were just the WAU randomly uploading brain scans into them as a screwed up attempt to 'preserve humanity'. You just got lucky that the 'machine' it uploaded you to was the dive suit.

[Soshidow]

Originally posted by #BLIND DATE:

I think the reason Simon had no idea what was going on is because he was the older Simon.

It doesn't even matter which Simon it is, they would both be identical. Your entire argument hingres on:

Originally posted by #BLIND DATE:

It couldn't have been the original Simon, (he died approximately 100 years before SOMA happened) so it would have to be another Simon robot.

So how is it that a scan of another Simon Robot has no memories of being a Simon Robot and is instead identical to the original Simon? The only way it works is if it is in fact possible to use a legacy scan in a different area, in which case... there's no reason another Simon Robot had to exist.

[Guerilla Bear]

While I don't think it was a simon robot that transferred to imogen's body since simon had no memory of it, someone did have to put the robot parts into imogen's body and baricade the door. I really don't think the WAU could have done it. The WAU could have made the transfer, but someone who understood the WAU must have built the body and baricaded the door to keep proxies from getting the body maybe?

[obstructor]

Whether or not there is another Simon I don't know but:

The thing that makes me believe someone built simon is that the (cortex chip)/(robot head) is inside the diving suit. The Wau just doesn't have that precision. Maybe it was just a psycho robot who knows.

The thing that bugs me is, it should have been some secret we stumble upon, an extra piece of the story. But it just gets handwaved as "the WAU did it" by the end. Even Catherine early on doesn't believe the WAU could have made you.

Steps that would have to happen:

Reed dies from head trauma (outside a diving suit?), Cortex chip shoved into remaining head and Structure gel, Reed placed into diving suit, Reed placed into Pilot chair, Simon is uploaded into Reed and WAU does its magic.

It is almost as bad as the plot hole of the power suit not exploding when the arm gets broken.

[keastes]

If you look in the mirror in a couple of places, you can see the cortex assembly attached to imogen's body, and according to transmissions (IIRC) she died in upsilon from oxygen deprivation.

[MOM]

Originally posted by riverkitten21:

Technically Speaking, there is actually One Simon and his body lies dead in the office of where the brain scan orignally took place in the time senario.

He didnt die in that office.
He died in a hospital, a few months later.