Unable to win the game as barbarian on Hard mode

[Cheem]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3355246818
After doing the last task (in this case, sacrificial altars), we're unable to spawn the boss and the timer gets totally messed up. This is with the Barbarian with the most expensive weapon.

[burner19]

They need to work on the ballance. Biggest offender here are those quests. You are forced to do quests to be able to summon boss and that blocks you from properly farm exp. Enemies snowball to fast because instead of farming you are forced to run around and get 25 helms or other stupid stuff because its all on timer. So you run around to get those helms and you dont get much of exp and enemies get hp spongy realy quick because you get underleveled fast. 2nd thing is artificialy locked skill level caps that will block you from getting to evolve skill till you get at least 3 skills on level 3. This locking makes that snowball effect even worse because you get weaker and weaker instead of being able to get at least 1 skill to evolve. Because of that a lot of skills feel realy weak and mostly i reroll runs or banish most of gods to have only 1 god + class skill to evolve faster. You need to farm gold and use that vitrue in menu to buy skill upgrades.

[Cheem]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining about balance in this post (although, yeah, Axe Throw is absolutely nuts compared to, like, Assault)... this is a bug. We should be able to summon the boss after finishing the tasks. And I can. But not with Barbarian.

[Mashee]

Originally posted by Cheem:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining about balance in this post (although, yeah, Axe Throw is absolutely nuts compared to, like, Assault)... this is a bug. We should be able to summon the boss after finishing the tasks. And I can. But not with Barbarian.

I was just able to complete Hard with the Barbarian on my 1st try with no runes on the current version (Halloween updated) with no Barbarian Virtues as I'd only been playing the Ranger with God Skills since they patched him in. My last task was the x2 heroes or...whatever they were, the lazer-ball-shooting-guys...

I wonder if sacrificial alters was the bug or if you got unlucky with something else.

https://youtu.be/sD5ypPH9NT4

[Mashee]

Originally posted by burner19:

They need to work on the ballance. Biggest offender here are those quests. You are forced to do quests to be able to summon boss and that blocks you from properly farm exp. Enemies snowball to fast because instead of farming you are forced to run around and get 25 helms or other stupid stuff because its all on timer. So you run around to get those helms and you dont get much of exp and enemies get hp spongy realy quick because you get underleveled fast. 2nd thing is artificialy locked skill level caps that will block you from getting to evolve skill till you get at least 3 skills on level 3. This locking makes that snowball effect even worse because you get weaker and weaker instead of being able to get at least 1 skill to evolve. Because of that a lot of skills feel realy weak and mostly i reroll runs or banish most of gods to have only 1 god + class skill to evolve faster. You need to farm gold and use that vitrue in menu to buy skill upgrades.

By sheer coincidence I posted a topic about the problem you mention. The mistake is you chose 25 helms instead of the Braziers. You can see in the video I posted that I'm maxed at lvl 25 because I prioritised XP over what appears to be the easiest quests...the ones labelled easiest are not always the easiest and may cripple you for late game...

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2820820/discussions/0/4691154661545183771/

The game is by design intended to have a grind-element to it via the Virtues and Weapons. It is OK to fail to summon the Jotunn and win... That's hard for most players to understand.

[burner19]

Overall that quest system is ok when its kill 2 bosses or that curse it makes things interesting but those collection quests i would scrap because they are realy unfun and tedious(or at least changed that you dont have almost always 2 fetch quests at the beggining in higher difficulty). Also some skills are leauges above others so i would tinker with ballancing stuff or people will run few builds and get bored quickly. Halls of torment got it right. Thou i prefer visuals in this game.

[KoshLovesYou]

Originally posted by burner19:

Overall that quest system is ok when its kill 2 bosses or that curse it makes things interesting but those collection quests i would scrap because they are realy unfun and tedious(or at least changed that you dont have almost always 2 fetch quests at the beggining in higher difficulty). Also some skills are leauges above others so i would tinker with ballancing stuff or people will run few builds and get bored quickly. Halls of torment got it right. Thou i prefer visuals in this game.

Agree with a lot of this, sums up my impressions. Yeah, the tedium isn't worth the ease for sure. I think the almost overload of too many weapons that you have a hard time leveling up to empower yourself due to HOW many options you get, ironically, really makes you feel weak no matter what character you're on.

Think this is a big factor for why this'll be a wishlist to keep an eye on rather than a wishlist as a must buy for now. Curious to see what comes of it for sure, though.

[Adr_Grindstone]

Hi everyone!

Thank you for your feedback! Rest assured, we’re paying close attention to discussions like this.

In fact, everything you’ve mentioned is exactly why we’re doing the demo (and eventually early access) — so we can keep iterating and bring the game up to players' expectations.

We’re working on a lot of changes and improvements!

Cheers!