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Jerinder Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:22pm
Hours gone to waste. Saved games won't load anymore.
Since the patch, two of my save game files have prevented me from playing. The first game I load in and it will crash after a few days time past. The second game gets stuck on preparing the game loading screen. Each game has around 10+ hours on it.

If I'm going to keep losing 10+ hours without being able to finish, turns this game into a huge waste of time. Why would I start a new one?? The amount of money I've spent on DLC (everyone but the ebook) and I can't even continue what I started??

Paradox has pumped out a star trek game and now another Stellaris spin off. What are you guys doing over there? You clearly are not focused on your existing Stellaris customers that have spent hundreds on this software.
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SVaughan Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Literally just roll back to whatever version you were on. Not exactly that hard to do.
Jerinder Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:26pm 
The games were started after the patch, so not possible.
SVaughan Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by Jerinder Singh:
The games were started after the patch, so not possible.
Rip.
Minor updates shouldn't be breaking savegames if they're all on the same version that's current.
Joker Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Rather than ranting here go over to the official forums and fill out a bug report with the attached save file. Of course if you are running 87 mods and blaming PDX for them crashing then that won't accomplish much.
Jerinder Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:44pm 
0 mods playing in iron man
The first one that crashed was submitted, ill look into uploading the other one but every patch they put out breaks so much of the game, galactic paragons was bad for weeks after release and this one is even worse. I can't be bothered to start a new one so might as well rant.
Last edited by Jerinder; Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:45pm
SVaughan Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:45pm 
Keep in mind, PDX is flooded daily with bug reports, so it'll take them time to look into your report, but they will look at it and try to solve it.
Jerinder Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:48pm 
Sure would be helpful if they were more committed to finding bugs before release or putting more manpower to the base game instead of making stellaris spin offs and phone games. 2 out of 2 games are unplayable, that's a 100% failure rate.
Last edited by Jerinder; Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:52pm
Immortalis Dec 12, 2023 @ 12:30am 
Well, on this point there is an important distinction that must be made between game bugs and system related issues.

The former affects every single player, as was the case with the recent "ship build cost modifiers" not being applied.
They should be squashed in the development or QA and there's no doubt about it.
Still, from a realistic point of view, the developers are operating under a strict timetable themselves which demands content X being made available on date Y no matter what; part of that is due to shareholders and management demanding short term results and part of that is due to the playerbase itself. Can you imagine the outcry on these very forum if Paradox had postponed the DLC release because "we're fixing a few issues with the game".
Plus of course, it's not really unheard, nor even rare, to have the version you conduct tests on being different, sometimes drammatically so from the one that gets release; and for obvious reasons you cannot conduct an undending cycle of modify the game -> two weeks of testing -> modify the game -> two weeks of testing etc

The second component however is that of system related issues, for example the many reports of CTD or your own inability to load save games. These do not affect every player, not even the majority of players.
And these issues are the results of the wildly different arrays of components each of us has inside his own computer, from hardware to software and down to the individual variations thereof (for example, the same GPU could easily be using a dozen different versions).
And these cannot be caught in development nor QA outside of the very lucky coincidence that your system is the same one (or very close to) the developers and the testers themselves use; which is why once new content is released, no matter which game or program we're considering, there are hundreds if not thousands of "new" bugs that need fixing.
It's in the open now and instead of being tested by a dozen people on the same rig, it's available to thousands of people on thousands of different computer.
Some have no issues, others have minor ones, others find the program completely unusable. But the program is exactly the same.

I've run 4 different games since the patch (admittedly not reaching 10 hours on each) but I've had no issue whatsoever. For me that's a 100% success rate, to use your own example.
Yet, the game you and I play is exactly the same. Which means the difference that is responsible for such different outcome is what's inside the computer itself.

And the only way to solve these issues is for people having them reporting them and waiting for Paradox to fix it.
Jerinder Dec 12, 2023 @ 4:32pm 
There is nothing unusual about my computer, Intel cpu 10900k, nvidia gpu 4080 running on a samsung m.2 drive running windows 10 all updated.

It's more likely you haven't experienced the any problems because of your games were shorter. This didn't happen in 1 sitting, I was saving & resuming the games over a few days with no problem until they broke themselves.

Also I noticed other errors like when I have planet automation on, the cpu would disable my enforcer jobs, with crime rising over 10% and pops unemployed on the planet, zero jobs are available. Enabling them back on solving the problem, but the cpu disabling them again after resuming time forcing me to mange 36 planets.
sudokek Dec 12, 2023 @ 6:00pm 
Hey op, i'm detecting some hostilities to the ***non paradox staff*** people replying to you. I've never once encountered this either, only saying so as you're making it seem like it's a major issue that everyone has. You're in the minority. Submit proper bug reports with your dxdiag and send it to them.
Jerinder Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:06pm 
Maybe you are too fragile for this post then because I don't see any hostility in what I said at all and was simply replying to each question I was asked.
Last edited by Jerinder; Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:42pm
SVaughan Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by sudokek:
Hey op, i'm detecting some hostilities to the ***non paradox staff*** people replying to you. I've never once encountered this either, only saying so as you're making it seem like it's a major issue that everyone has. You're in the minority. Submit proper bug reports with your dxdiag and send it to them.
OP has been rather chill in this entire thread. No idea where you're seeing this apparent hostility. I've seen hostile plenty of times. OP doesn't fit the bill.
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Date Posted: Dec 11, 2023 @ 6:22pm
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