Under One Rule Ruined

[Doctor Proteus]

Dictatorship only. They had one job. One darn job! Why can't I just be the Head of the Council or something?

[KoenigsNezumi]

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

My question is why can't it also be imperial?

I think you need to play it. :)

I think you should get a raise, or big bonus, just for enduring with community flaming smth they didn't even tried, lol.
For me awesome patch, awesome DLC and amazing origin. I'm attached to the story af. Something I was lacking for a while.

[Scr(A)tch]

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

And you can design your Ruler without using Under One Rule as an origin :)

'Design' is a bit of an overstatement when you have such a restricted list of available traits to start with.

Pre-patch, you could roll Fertility Preacher, Champion of the People and whatnot - also you had 2 traits. Basically all Tier 1 council traits should be available.

Besides, it does not really removes the need to reroll your start as the other leaders are still random.

Also flavor text always says ruler was 'previously Unemployed'... And I'm ranting, but the old Charismatic icon was more... charismatic.

[Transhobbit]

I've played three games with this new Legacy, and the leader dies infamously all the time in an event. Is that all there is? And how to get an achievement?

[Komnenos]

I was disappointed that I couldn't take Under One Rule and have an inquisition as well, because that requires imperial not dictatorship.

[Doctor Proteus]

Originally posted by Transhobbit:

I've played three games with this new Legacy, and the leader dies infamously all the time in an event. Is that all there is? And how to get an achievement?

The only time I played this Origin my Leader was made immortal at the capital.

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

And you can design your Ruler without using Under One Rule as an origin :)

A bit late, but, then the Ruler does not get the story, immortality and any other benefits of the origin.

[Abacus]

Not to mention the philosophy of the PDX grand strategy....Mod it. Yourself. That is maybe changing one or to digits in the game file

[Garretton]

I wanted to create a "divine empire" from the start (spiritualist, authoritarian, xenophobe) as "Imperial" and with the trait "imperial Cult". Was dissapointed that I can not choose the very fitting "Under one rule" origin. The only difference between Imperial and Authoritarian is how the successor is chosen. So I dont understand that design choice. Can that be changed with a mod?

[pete3great]

So, still broken I see.

[Blaze Shadowflame]

Originally posted by Garretton:

I wanted to create a "divine empire" from the start (spiritualist, authoritarian, xenophobe) as "Imperial" and with the trait "imperial Cult". Was dissapointed that I can not choose the very fitting "Under one rule" origin. The only difference between Imperial and Authoritarian is how the successor is chosen. So I dont understand that design choice. Can that be changed with a mod?

The origin will give you the option to change the authority type relatively quickly. You can still have your divine empire, you just can't start with it immediately. Could roleplay its creation with that.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Garretton:

I wanted to create a "divine empire" from the start (spiritualist, authoritarian, xenophobe) as "Imperial" and with the trait "imperial Cult". Was dissapointed that I can not choose the very fitting "Under one rule" origin. The only difference between Imperial and Authoritarian is how the successor is chosen. So I dont understand that design choice. Can that be changed with a mod?

Presumably yes. You'd just need to locate the civic itself in the data files (\Stellaris\common\governments\civics" if I had to guess) and locate a line under the name of said civic having to do with dictatorship, and either change it to imperial or put a new bracket AND or OR to imperial instead. Though that can get a bit complicated.

[MrFreake_PDX]

Originally posted by Doctor Proteus:

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

And you can design your Ruler without using Under One Rule as an origin :)

But do they have the special trait and storyline that way?

No, those traits and storyline are unique to under one rule. But there are leader traits to choose from. :)

[Doctor Proteus]

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

Originally posted by Doctor Proteus:

But do they have the special trait and storyline that way?

No, those traits and storyline are unique to under one rule. But there are leader traits to choose from. :)

What are you trying to argue at this point? I want the story and immortality of the luminary. That smiley face is just making you look like a troll.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Originally posted by Doctor Proteus:

Originally posted by MrFreake_PDX:

No, those traits and storyline are unique to under one rule. But there are leader traits to choose from. :)

What are you trying to argue at this point? I want the story and immortality of the luminary. That smiley face is just making you look like a troll.

Considering the story line is bringing together a bunch of disparate nation states under a dictator and then reforming into either an empire or democracy and dealing with the fall out of that, the story line wouldn't make sense if you started as an empire.

I know you want the 40k story line, but this is the pre-40k story.

[Doctor Proteus]

Originally posted by Mazovian Socio-Economist:

Originally posted by Doctor Proteus:

What are you trying to argue at this point? I want the story and immortality of the luminary. That smiley face is just making you look like a troll.

Considering the story line is bringing together a bunch of disparate nation states under a dictator and then reforming into either an empire or democracy and dealing with the fall out of that, the story line wouldn't make sense if you started as an empire.

I know you want the 40k story line, but this is the pre-40k story.

I was never given the option of becoming a Democracy. Is that a thing? What I actually want is the Leader having the story of uniting everyone and becoming immortal. They have introduced this concept but restricted it to only one government/style of play. The one I am primarily interested in is the Oligarchy, which is how I prefer to run my government, a rational consensus of the most qualified and knowledgeable experts in the Civilisation, with a central figure as the hub.

There are several oversights or flaws or instances of lack of forethought in the game regarding governments. For example, Meritocracy being exclusively egalitarian. Even a Dictatorship can theoretically ensure sure that only the most qualified are in positions of authority, and that the Dictator ended up in their position because they were the most competent, which is the case in the vase of the Luminary. For a sci-fi setting of make-believe there is a lack of imagination and flexibility.

Now don't get me wrong, I love this game, It's actually my favourite game, but some of the decisions and lack of forward-thought by the developers is puzzling.

[pete3great]

Still broken.