Force spawning Empires wont work?

[Coach the Roach]

So I got 8 custom empires, one is my own thru playthrough so it leaves 7.
From that seven custom empires the biggest number I could get was 3 to spawn...

Already checked many forums about this, but nothing seems to work...like set the star system to random, some origins could work as well..

Any idea or tip please? :( This is hopeless...

[Ryika]

Use custom names.

[Coach the Roach]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Use custom names.

Tried that as well

[CrUsHeR]

And you actually have them forced to spawn, not just allowed to spawn?

Because allowed = same chance like the premade empires, which is very low. The game will always prefer random empires otherwise.

I only play with custom empires, but i also have a list of like 50 empires. Even if i disable 30 of them, i literally never see random or premade empires.

Only exception are the pre-FTLs which are an absolute pest since 3.7. Some of them spawn regardless as galaxy features (like the Humans if you don't play Human yourself)

[Coach the Roach]

Found out the issue, it was some random addon which prevented to make AI empires with those portraits....
Thx tho, I was dumb

[POOTISMAN]

Originally posted by Loyalist ✠:

Found out the issue, it was some random addon which prevented to make AI empires with those portraits....
Thx tho, I was dumb

I have the same problem, but i dont have any mods installed ... I have 7 custom empires, all are set to "Empire Spawning Forced", but most of them dont spawn. I started a few games and used the "observe" command to look at the galaxy. Result: Between 0 and 3 custom empires are spawning.

I have all DLCs. I have already verified the game cache.

[POOTISMAN]

I tried 2 suggestions: I gave all 7 empires custom names and i set their starting solar system to random. It didn't help.

[POOTISMAN]

I think i found a solution: The empire name needs to be 100% unique. If you have strings like "devourer" or "hungry" in the empire name, then the game considers the empire a duplicate and wont spawn it (if there is a randomly generated empire that has this string). I wrote my empire names in leetspeak and now they all spawn. The galaxy creator is really quirky.

[titanopteryx]

Remember, if they have the same unique system, they won't all spawn. So only 1 can have Sol for instance. To make sure they all spawn make each home system Random, or only have 1 each of the unique ones. Like only 1 void dwellers and only 1 of any other system unique to an origin and only 1 sol.

[Coach the Roach]

Originally posted by POOTISMAN:

I think i found a solution: The empire name needs to be 100% unique. If you have strings like "devourer" or "hungry" in the empire name, then the game considers the empire a duplicate and wont spawn it (if there is a randomly generated empire that has this string). I wrote my empire names in leetspeak and now they all spawn. The galaxy creator is really quirky.

Also remember the starting Origin.
Prosp. unification is fine for most of them, but if you choose some unique origin for multiple empires, only one of them will spawn.

[Mausklickmoerder]

Originally posted by Loyalist ✠:

Originally posted by POOTISMAN:

I think i found a solution: The empire name needs to be 100% unique. If you have strings like "devourer" or "hungry" in the empire name, then the game considers the empire a duplicate and wont spawn it (if there is a randomly generated empire that has this string). I wrote my empire names in leetspeak and now they all spawn. The galaxy creator is really quirky.

Also remember the starting Origin.
Prosp. unification is fine for most of them, but if you choose some unique origin for multiple empires, only one of them will spawn.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, why? I have the same problem. Can't understand the logic behind this.

[48 YEARS OLD VIRGIN]

Originally posted by POOTISMAN:

I think i found a solution: The empire name needs to be 100% unique. If you have strings like "devourer" or "hungry" in the empire name, then the game considers the empire a duplicate and wont spawn it (if there is a randomly generated empire that has this string). I wrote my empire names in leetspeak and now they all spawn. The galaxy creator is really quirky.

Thanks, I'll try that. I have the same issue.

Edit : didn't work. All my empires have specific names and they never appear. Only the default ones populate the galaxy.

[Coach the Roach]

Originally posted by Ulysse:

Originally posted by POOTISMAN:

I think i found a solution: The empire name needs to be 100% unique. If you have strings like "devourer" or "hungry" in the empire name, then the game considers the empire a duplicate and wont spawn it (if there is a randomly generated empire that has this string). I wrote my empire names in leetspeak and now they all spawn. The galaxy creator is really quirky.

Thanks, I'll try that. I have the same issue.

Edit : didn't work. All my empires have specific names and they never appear. Only the default ones populate the galaxy.

I will make an example in pictures, give me some time.

[Coach the Roach]

So here: https://imgur.com/a/kFqGhe0

Every unique Origin must be present only once.
The last 2 empires have the same starting Origin which is among the very few which can be acceptable to spawn multiple empires. Also, both of those empires have the starting system set to random.

And here is the test: https://imgur.com/a/hVrxtTd
16 AI empires have been spawning alongside my own, which makes it 17 custom empires.
Remember, if you set Fallen empires or Marauders to a certain number, you have to increase the AI empire size as well.
On the picture there are zero Fallen and Marauder empires, because I turned them off before game start.
If I wanted like 1 Fallen empire with all of my custom empires, I had to set the number of AI empires to 17 instead of 16.

In Observer mode your custom empires are always the first on the list, so you have easy time checking which empires were unable to spawn.