Everyone is in a defensive pact...

[Bavi500]

So im playing as a Determined Exterminator, and everyone else is in a defensive pacts with an Empire that is much, much stronger than me. I cant do anything. Do the pacts ever expire?

[TheFarReach]

No. They are broken only when one of the empire chooses to break it.

[Bavi500]

Originally posted by TheFarReach:

No. They are broken only when one of the empire chooses to break it.

so im ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[annaliseh]

You can selectively compensate using the command window but I wouldn't encourage it. Make sure you build up the Starbases at the choke points so you can hold them.

Look carefully at the other empires/ federations, if they are at war with each other, attack the one closest to you. Take a few systems and then before they end the war with the other Federation white peace with them.

[Bavi500]

Originally posted by annaliseh:

You can selectively compensate using the command window but I wouldn't encourage it. Make sure you build up the Starbases at the choke points so you can hold them.

Look carefully at the other empires/ federations, if they are at war with each other, attack the one closest to you. Take a few systems and then before they end the war with the other Federation white peace with them.

The only issue with that is that 4 of the remaining empires are in defensive pacts between themselves, and will probably become a federation soon, while the other rivals two of them, so I shouldnt destroy them.

[galadon3]

When those 4 defense-pacted start forming a federation be ready to strike, the moment two of them form a federation it will automatically break the defensive-pact with the others (feds can't be in defensive pacts with non-members, only associate-statur wich is the feds-version of non-agression treaty), so thats when you can take on two of them.

Other then that, tech up build megastructures and turtle a lot until the AI falls behind. Sadly the AI of Stellaris has an annoying tendency to built up biiiig defensive-pacts and federations without any instrument in the game to break them up.

My personal max was a 11 members-federation spanning 3/4 of the galaxy. Beating that was REALLY annoying, especially the 10 years forced peace they got for rebuilding every time during wich I couldn't do much more then dwiddling my thumbs.

[Chastity the Celibate]

Originally posted by galadon3:

When those 4 defense-pacted start forming a federation be ready to strike, the moment two of them form a federation it will automatically break the defensive-pact with the others (feds can't be in defensive pacts with non-members, only associate-statur wich is the feds-version of non-agression treaty), so thats when you can take on two of them.

Other then that, tech up build megastructures and turtle a lot until the AI falls behind. Sadly the AI of Stellaris has an annoying tendency to built up biiiig defensive-pacts and federations without any instrument in the game to break them up.

My personal max was a 11 members-federation spanning 3/4 of the galaxy. Beating that was REALLY annoying, especially the 10 years forced peace they got for rebuilding every time during wich I couldn't do much more then dwiddling my thumbs.

And that’s why I have a Nicoll-Dyson Beam in a nebula.

They’ll never expect a planet-cracking beam coning from the other side of the galaxy.

Of course, 10 year cooldown sooooo...

[Lady Crimson (RIP)]

Well, that's why you don't pick anti-diplomacy empires when you're starting out. That's the consequence.

[Lady Crimson (RIP)]

Otherwise you could maybe convince a friend to join in with you.

Right now all you can hope for is for someone else to attack them.. and then sweep in.

[galadon3]

Originally posted by xnadu27:

Originally posted by galadon3:

When those 4 defense-pacted start forming a federation be ready to strike, the moment two of them form a federation it will automatically break the defensive-pact with the others (feds can't be in defensive pacts with non-members, only associate-statur wich is the feds-version of non-agression treaty), so thats when you can take on two of them.

Other then that, tech up build megastructures and turtle a lot until the AI falls behind. Sadly the AI of Stellaris has an annoying tendency to built up biiiig defensive-pacts and federations without any instrument in the game to break them up.

My personal max was a 11 members-federation spanning 3/4 of the galaxy. Beating that was REALLY annoying, especially the 10 years forced peace they got for rebuilding every time during wich I couldn't do much more then dwiddling my thumbs.

And that’s why I have a Nicoll-Dyson Beam in a nebula.

They’ll never expect a planet-cracking beam coning from the other side of the galaxy.

Of course, 10 year cooldown sooooo...

Because he can wait till they try to form a federation and use that window of opportunity to attack the then vulnerable members of that pact YOU have a planet-destroying weapon from a mod with a 10 years cooldown?
Interesting causal chain....

[Chastity the Celibate]

Originally posted by galadon3:

Originally posted by xnadu27:

And that’s why I have a Nicoll-Dyson Beam in a nebula.

They’ll never expect a planet-cracking beam coning from the other side of the galaxy.

Of course, 10 year cooldown sooooo...

Because he can wait till they try to form a federation and use that window of opportunity to attack the then vulnerable members of that pact YOU have a planet-destroying weapon from a mod with a 10 years cooldown?
Interesting causal chain....

Most games I don’t actually get to build one unfortunately. Although that window of opportunity is good too.