1 POP population equivalent

[Rythulian22]

So, I was curious how many people 1 POP actually represented, so I tried to figure it out this way:

United Nations of Earth always starts with a size 16 Earth, and 8 Pops of humans.
The game starts on the year 2200.
Using population projections by the UN Population Bureau, it can be estimated Earth's population will reach about 11 billion by 2200.
Therefore, we could say 11 billion divided by 8 Pops means roughly 1.375 billion people per Pop.

This is strange considering that this suggests a fully-populated Earth homeworld in the game has about 22 billion people on it, which goes against many estimates saying that Earth can only support a maximum of 10 billion people sufficiently, where food is concerned. However I think this can be explained away with lore and new technologies solving space and food issues and allowing us to reach 22 billion people on the planet (through arcologies, roof farms, infrastructure, architecture).

TLDR:
1 Pop equals about 1.375 billion people, using humans on Earth as an example.

[101Titan101]

Pop's have no real number since they're just a representation of growth, while you're logic makes sense for Earth, does it really make sense for a colony ship to have 1.375 billion people?

[Army Pea]

Its alittle less abstract with patch 2.2... but not by much

[The Renderer]

1) The number doesn't really mean anything (see two post above mine)
2) Who says Earth's population will continue to grow steadily until 2200? There might be all kinds of events decreasing it. In real life or in the game's fictional history. Those 8 pop might be 8 billion people. Or 8 million. Who knows.
3) Those "Earth can support 10 billion people" estimates are pretty outdated. Earth can support a lot more people... or a lot less. Current lifestyle on Earth isn't even sustainable long-term with the people we have right now. But if humanity theoretically managed to go in the right direction a lot more than 10 billion are feasible.

[Ryika]

1.375 billion people. One Power Plant.

[galadon3]

Originally posted by Ryika:

1.375 billion people. One Power Plant.

You laugh, but those 1.375 billion human-sized hamster-wheels can produce a lot of power.

[Mindset]

I always tend to scale each tile as 1 billion.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by Joblox17:

So, I was curious how many people 1 POP actually represented, so I tried to figure it out this way:

United Nations of Earth always starts with a size 16 Earth, and 8 Pops of humans.
The game starts on the year 2200.
Using population projections by the UN Population Bureau, it can be estimated Earth's population will reach about 11 billion by 2200.
Therefore, we could say 11 billion divided by 8 Pops means roughly 1.375 billion people per Pop.

This is strange considering that this suggests a fully-populated Earth homeworld in the game has about 22 billion people on it, which goes against many estimates saying that Earth can only support a maximum of 10 billion people sufficiently, where food is concerned. However I think this can be explained away with lore and new technologies solving space and food issues and allowing us to reach 22 billion people on the planet (through arcologies, roof farms, infrastructure, architecture).

TLDR:
1 Pop equals about 1.375 billion people, using humans on Earth as an example.

They represent an abstract. The UN could've controlled its population by then, who knows.

[The Renderer]

Also, what is 1 mineral? What is 1 energy? Even worse: What is 1 research?
It's a game, it doesn't have to have a conversion rate to real life.

[WolfTooth]

I like to think 1 pop is 1 ethnic group instead of a number of people

[vkobe]

Originally posted by Joblox17:

So, I was curious how many people 1 POP actually represented, so I tried to figure it out this way:

United Nations of Earth always starts with a size 16 Earth, and 8 Pops of humans.
The game starts on the year 2200.
Using population projections by the UN Population Bureau, it can be estimated Earth's population will reach about 11 billion by 2200.
Therefore, we could say 11 billion divided by 8 Pops means roughly 1.375 billion people per Pop.

This is strange considering that this suggests a fully-populated Earth homeworld in the game has about 22 billion people on it, which goes against many estimates saying that Earth can only support a maximum of 10 billion people sufficiently, where food is concerned. However I think this can be explained away with lore and new technologies solving space and food issues and allowing us to reach 22 billion people on the planet (through arcologies, roof farms, infrastructure, architecture).

TLDR:
1 Pop equals about 1.375 billion people, using humans on Earth as an example.

i think it work like richter scale

1 pop=100000

10 pop=1 billion

20 pop=10 billions

25 pop between 10-100 billions

[vkobe]

Originally posted by The Renderer:

Also, what is 1 mineral? What is 1 energy? Even worse: What is 1 research?
It's a game, it doesn't have to have a conversion rate to real life.

1 mineral=1 km cubed
1 energy=one ton of antimatter ;^)

more seriously one ringworld cost 110000 minerals and you consume a whole solar system to build it

so is mean it is at least 1430556211858396.5 km cubed=jupiter volume

so is mean 110000 minerals > 1430556211858396.5 km cubed

if you use dyson sphere scale it is 260000 minerals

[Arrek]

Probably easier to not think of it as a definite unit of measurement, but a qualitative unit of measure. You likely need far more people working in certain industrial techs levels to get the level of production in the game, but for say the Rulers level stratum that amount is likely far far fewer actual individuals. Think Earth, less than 1% of the actual population likely fits into that stratum, but in a game like Stellaris that might not even be recognizable till a population is fully 100 units using the 1.375 billion people.

Same for a Colony, the number needed to start a colony is far far less when you think about it from those on the initial ship as that group and even the secondary groups are meant really only to start base infrastructure and allow for a startpoint for actual Settlement.

[Master Zone]

Originally posted by Joblox17:

So, I was curious how many people 1 POP actually represented, so I tried to figure it out this way:

United Nations of Earth always starts with a size 16 Earth, and 8 Pops of humans.
The game starts on the year 2200.
Using population projections by the UN Population Bureau, it can be estimated Earth's population will reach about 11 billion by 2200.
Therefore, we could say 11 billion divided by 8 Pops means roughly 1.375 billion people per Pop.

This is strange considering that this suggests a fully-populated Earth homeworld in the game has about 22 billion people on it, which goes against many estimates saying that Earth can only support a maximum of 10 billion people sufficiently, where food is concerned. However I think this can be explained away with lore and new technologies solving space and food issues and allowing us to reach 22 billion people on the planet (through arcologies, roof farms, infrastructure, architecture).

TLDR:
1 Pop equals about 1.375 billion people, using humans on Earth as an example.

You are aware that is a made up lie that the Earth can only support 11 billion people... The amount of food we produce now is enough food to feed the Earths population twice over, just that we waste it, more food than we eat gets dumped and rots. The entire Earth's population can also fit into Texas with everyone having a sizable house each. Like you said after, this can be explained by future space traveling humans managing food much better than we do today.

So yeah, at the moment with the way we waste foods and resources (like buying a new iphone every year for minal improvments) we can only support a max of 11 billion, but if we didn't waste then the max moves up to 20 billion or more.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by Master Zone:

Originally posted by Joblox17:

So, I was curious how many people 1 POP actually represented, so I tried to figure it out this way:

United Nations of Earth always starts with a size 16 Earth, and 8 Pops of humans.
The game starts on the year 2200.
Using population projections by the UN Population Bureau, it can be estimated Earth's population will reach about 11 billion by 2200.
Therefore, we could say 11 billion divided by 8 Pops means roughly 1.375 billion people per Pop.

This is strange considering that this suggests a fully-populated Earth homeworld in the game has about 22 billion people on it, which goes against many estimates saying that Earth can only support a maximum of 10 billion people sufficiently, where food is concerned. However I think this can be explained away with lore and new technologies solving space and food issues and allowing us to reach 22 billion people on the planet (through arcologies, roof farms, infrastructure, architecture).

TLDR:
1 Pop equals about 1.375 billion people, using humans on Earth as an example.

You are aware that is a made up lie that the Earth can only support 11 billion people... The amount of food we produce now is enough food to feed the Earths population twice over, just that we waste it, more food than we eat gets dumped and rots. The entire Earth's population can also fit into Texas with everyone having a sizable house each. Like you said after, this can be explained by future space traveling humans managing food much better than we do today.

So yeah, at the moment with the way we waste foods and resources (like buying a new iphone every year for minal improvments) we can only support a max of 11 billion, but if we didn't waste then the max moves up to 20 billion or more.

sincerely only technology can save us, at this point if we are unable to find the technology to save ourselve, earth will take care of us and because we are humans we will kill each others like piranha in pond that going to dry

[僕の名前 (仮)]

1 pop is variable.