Any way to force/encourage vassals/sectors to colonize planets?

[WWDragon]

I've noticed in this first, LONG running game of mine that neither vassals, nor sectors ever want to colonize.

Actually, they do EVERYTHING really slowly.
I could build 15 mines/research stations in the time they get around to doing ONE.

How can I get them to act build and expand faster?
They already have lots of minerals; I've seen to that for a vassal via a trade deal that gave him HUNDREDS of my minerals per month!

[LustHogg]

I usually drop a trade agreement on them where I give them 10 energy and 10 mineral /mo for 30 months. I sometimes also give them a few thousand energy and minerals in a single payment trade agreement, just to pump some resources into their system. Basically, I invest in my client states with energy and minerals. That seems to work for me.

[Apeironic_Entelechy]

Vassals cannot colonize so that isn't a glitch, I'm not sure about sectors.

[LustHogg]

Sectors will colonize within the sector borders, but only if you check that box off in sector settings.

[101]

Yeah, my sectors aren't doing ♥♥♥♥, idk why.

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: 101

Yeah, my sectors aren't doing ♥♥♥♥, idk why.

This.
I just went through all my sectors and found 5 systems with places that needed mineral/research built on them.
This is after they were originally ALL done by my direct order, then some lost to enemies in wars.
Then back at peace state for YEARS.

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: Fourthspartan56

Vassals cannot colonize so that isn't a glitch, I'm not sure about sectors.

Well crap.

Is there any way I can colonize the ringworlds in his territory and give them to him?
It's a former awakened empire that's the vassel.

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: LustHogg

I usually drop a trade agreement on them where I give them 10 energy and 10 mineral /mo for 30 months. I sometimes also give them a few thousand energy and minerals in a single payment trade agreement, just to pump some resources into their system. Basically, I invest in my client states with energy and minerals. That seems to work for me.

That is excellent advice and I did this several times with the vassal.
I also pump energy and minerals into my sectors.
The sectors still rarly build anything, outside planet upgrades; they just sit there with large banks of energy and minerals. :-(

[corisai]

Автор сообщения: WWDragon

Is there any way I can colonize the ringworlds in his territory and give them to him?
It's a former awakened empire that's the vassel.

Declare them war, cede their planets, colonise&build, then purge give them freedom? May not work if migration allowed. And unsure what others&them will think about your actions if you will follow that guideline

You also can understand my prefered playstyle from that advice ^_^

[LustHogg]

Автор сообщения: WWDragon

Автор сообщения: LustHogg

I usually drop a trade agreement on them where I give them 10 energy and 10 mineral /mo for 30 months. I sometimes also give them a few thousand energy and minerals in a single payment trade agreement, just to pump some resources into their system. Basically, I invest in my client states with energy and minerals. That seems to work for me.

That is excellent advice and I did this several times with the vassal.
I also pump energy and minerals into my sectors.
The sectors still rarly build anything, outside planet upgrades; they just sit there with large banks of energy and minerals. :-(

That's great! Yeah, the sector AI doesn't build out worlds they way players do. I find it's best not to dig too deeply into what they are doing, i.e., I don't look at the worlds in its care. I focus more on the overall sector performance, and yes, it will store away the resources.

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: LustHogg

Автор сообщения: WWDragon

That is excellent advice and I did this several times with the vassal.
I also pump energy and minerals into my sectors.
The sectors still rarly build anything, outside planet upgrades; they just sit there with large banks of energy and minerals. :-(

That's great! Yeah, the sector AI doesn't build out worlds they way players do. I find it's best not to dig too deeply into what they are doing, i.e., I don't look at the worlds in its care. I focus more on the overall sector performance, and yes, it will store away the resources.

What I neded up doing was freeing the one falling empire from being my vassal, then inviting him to be part of the federation I was in.
Two of them refused to let him in, so I dumped them and made a new federation with the ringworld fallen ampire, the former religious crusader fallen ampire and a large vassal I had at the time.
After doing that, my fallen empire buddy went and colonized some of the ringworld; for some reason, it still hasn't gotten ALL of them yet.

Now I"m even more powerful as a group then I was before, due to them being super high tech and constantly expanding my empire.(200k fleet now)

[LustHogg]

Автор сообщения: WWDragon

Автор сообщения: LustHogg

That's great! Yeah, the sector AI doesn't build out worlds they way players do. I find it's best not to dig too deeply into what they are doing, i.e., I don't look at the worlds in its care. I focus more on the overall sector performance, and yes, it will store away the resources.

What I neded up doing was freeing the one falling empire from being my vassal, then inviting him to be part of the federation I was in.
Two of them refused to let him in, so I dumped them and made a new federation with the ringworld fallen ampire, the former religious crusader fallen ampire and a large vassal I had at the time.
After doing that, my fallen empire buddy went and colonized some of the ringworld; for some reason, it still hasn't gotten ALL of them yet.

Now I"m even more powerful as a group then I was before, due to them being super high tech and constantly expanding my empire.(200k fleet now)

You know, it never occured to me to liberate and ally myself with an FE. I always just conquered them outright, but this sounds like a great way to get a good tech boost AND a powerful ally. I have to try it out now.

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: LustHogg

You know, it never occured to me to liberate and ally myself with an FE. I always just conquered them outright, but this sounds like a great way to get a good tech boost AND a powerful ally. I have to try it out now.

You can also set up research boosting trades with them, to help your progress there.

[Terijian]

Its worth noting that sectors will only build what they can maintain. so even if they have 10,000 energy and mineals stored, if theyre only mking like 5 a month they wont build ♥♥♥♥.
The income is what matters not the pool

[WWDragon]

Автор сообщения: Terijian

Its worth noting that sectors will only build what they can maintain. so even if they have 10,000 energy and mineals stored, if theyre only mking like 5 a month they wont build ♥♥♥♥.
The income is what matters not the pool

Well I can tell you that most of my sectors are at the 50+/month in both energy and minerals... so that's not it.
I think they just need to keep improving the sector ai.

As I said above, once I unvassalized the FE and joined with it into a federation, it went out full tilt into colonizing and building again.
So I KNOW the ai has the ability to do that; It's just not doing it with sectors.

There's also no way to have enough govenors for all the little sectors, so I hope they work without them.

[Terijian]

Автор сообщения: WWDragon

There's also no way to have enough govenors for all the little sectors, so I hope they work without them.

that means you have too many sectors. try merging them into bigger ones