Is the Eyeless fight bugged?

[prinso]

Whenever Eyeless posses somebody they immediately get 2 moves and 2 attacks, even though the ability doesn't mention that at all.
Then, when the possessed dies Eyeless gets to move and attack immediately again. Including being able to possess again, with the possessed again moving and attacking twice.

During Pillage mode Eyeless got 6 turns for my 1 turn, even though I had 4 units left.
What's worse, if you kill the possessed with a reactive ability Eyeless will get to go without any of my units getting a turn at all. Effectively doing 6 turns in a row.

That's not how his abilities are described at all. What gives?

[Aleonymous]

Well, Eyeless is a bit OP, for sure I am not sure those are bugs you described, but her ability-mechanics do lead to some abusive behaviours!

[FatalFrosty]

I was expecting a brutal nightmare with her on Hard, but it ended up being relatively very easy.

Focus all your characters on a single dredge and slay it. She will appear right away and probly one shot kill one of your units after ressurecting the fallen one. If you managed to kill the first dredge quick enough, most of the others will still be placed all around the field, which means chances are she will have appeared right in the middle of your units and their movement range.

Leave the possessed one alive, and focus everyone on her. Despite her crazy stats, she should go down before she can move again, and most the other dredge wont have time to reach you.

Edit; Removed a little spoiler :P

[No Excusez]

Originally posted by prinso:

During Pillage mode Eyeless got 6 turns for my 1 turn, even though I had 4 units left.

How?

[Myll_Erik]

Not sure how it would get 6 turns for your 1 turn - could you explain a bit more?

[str4hlemann]

Originally posted by FatalFrosty:

I was expecting a brutal nightmare with her on Hard, but it ended up being relatively very easy.

Focus all your characters on a single dredge and slay it. She will appear right away and probly one shot kill one of your units after ressurecting the fallen one. If you managed to kill the first dredge quick enough, most of the others will still be placed all around the field, which means chances are she will have appeared right in the middle of your units and their movement range.

Leave the possessed one alive, and focus everyone on her. Despite her crazy stats, she should go down before she can move again, and most the other dredge wont have time to reach you.

Edit; Removed a little spoiler :P

Does it work that way? (my strategy for the eyless fight below; don't look if you don't want to know. Though I do not think it is any special; but whatever, don't want to spoil nothing)
I thought Eyeless disappears from the battlefield whenever possessing someone and only reappears when you kill off the possessed one? I remember leaving the possessed one alive (weak as that poor chap is) and calmly killing off all the other dredge. Then crowding all my heroes at one spot, then finishing off the possessed one and then pillaging Eyeless to death.

[zzirSnipzz]

Originally posted by Myll_Erik:

Not sure how it would get 6 turns for your 1 turn - could you explain a bit more?

thank you for such a good game will there be a 3 sorry if im off topic

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by Myll_Erik:

Not sure how it would get 6 turns for your 1 turn - could you explain a bit more?

I think he means if the possessed get 2 turns and a reactive ability like Alette's overwatch triggers each move and overwatch manages to kill the possessed then Eyeless get another move and can posses again and then the possessed get two more turns again.

While you are in Pillaged mode.

Turn 1: Eyeless possesses possesed A
Turn 2: Possessed A moves and gets hit by overwatch but doesn't die.
Turn 3: Possessed A moves again and triggers overwatch again, but this time dies.
Turn 4: Eyeless takes another turn because we killed one of its allies and it posseses Possesed B
Turn 5: Possessed B moves and gets hit by overwatch but manages to get an attack in.
Turn 6: Possessed B moves and triggers overwatch and dies.
Turn 7: etc etc etc.

Then again I could be reading it wrong.

[See you Space Cowboy...]

I get that he's OP but I was a bit upset that all my buffs disappeared. On the first turn I made the 4 buffs with the Lady Sage or w/e and then the cutscene happened with Eyeles and when it returned to the map the 4 buffed tiles were gone :/

I mean was that meant to happen or? It's not a HUGE deal but a bit unexpected and illogical.

[FunDhu]

I don't remember having a problem with the eyeless fight on previous games, but it was a lot harder on the lastest run through (normal diificulty, as I'm going for an achievement).

There was a stacking of the 2 moves plus 2 attacks that caused a lot of damage to my team, so I don't know if your issue was an exacerbated problem with that. Sometimes the game sesms unfair with the RNG :-)

[Case]

Well, she is to be one of the most powerful dredge, isn't she? Or he? Is the Eyeless a he or she?

[Metadragon]

Eyeless isnt very hard no. But sone people struggle I guess

[Blame]

I'm trying to get over the first fight in hard mode and it's an actual nightmare. It doesn't matter how well I play or how much I strategize: the eyeless is always able to mess up my party.
I don't get how this is supposed to be intended. She attacks twice every time she posses a body or a possessed body gets killed, there is no way around it even in pillage mode.

[Aleonymous]

Originally posted by Blame:

I'm trying to get over the first fight in hard mode and it's an actual nightmare. It doesn't matter how well I play or how much I strategize: the eyeless is always able to mess up my party.
I don't get how this is supposed to be intended. She attacks twice every time she posses a body or a possessed body gets killed, there is no way around it even in pillage mode.

One of the strategies involves killing a weak enemy (e.g. a Grunt or a Skulker) so that Eyeless possesses that body; then, leave that possessed enemy be, and clean-off the rest of the Dredge. Once you're done with them, turtle in a corner and kill-off the possessed enemy; Eyeless will respawn at a random location and might actually one-shoot one of your heroes, but the rest will probably smash her in Pillage mode.

Another strategy involves bringing only 3 heroes: Bolverk, Krumr/Sigbjorn (or another high hit-point hero) and Zefr leveled to Rank 6+. The trick is using Zefr's Breeze to "teleport" Bolverk/Krumr to smash Eyeless whereever she respawns, while exploiting turn-advantage (if your team has 3 units, vs. the enemy team's 6-7, you heroes will get twice the turns): You need only kill Eyeless to finish this battle.

[joelmun]

This fight's a total crap shoot. Eyeless possesses dead player-characters and they stand up with more HP and AP. Over and over, HP and AP just appear out of thin air. And they get two consecutive turns. Add to that the DoT that makes shield-wall impossible due to contagion. Total crap shoot as to whether a strat wins.
Love the game. Some parts suck.

[prinso]

Originally posted by Myll_Erik:

Not sure how it would get 6 turns for your 1 turn - could you explain a bit more?

Possessed gets 2 turns, gets killed on the second by a reactive ability, gets 2 more free turns (why?), probably kills another one of mine and then gets killed by a reactive ability so then when it gets killed it gets 2 more turns....
I understand making it difficult by allowing it 2 turns when possessing but I don't understand unlimited chains of possession when you're actually playing the game right.

In addition the ability doesn't mention these mechanics at all, so you sort of have to guess what's really supposed to happen.

If you see the only people who say it's easy/doable use cheese methods to beat this one.