About Tryggvi

[Morindacil]

Already posted something like this in the Saga #1 discussion thread but I should post it here too.



*A little spoiler for anyone who hasn't played the two games yet*








Dunno if people already know this or not, but you should listen to Tryggvi, both in The Banner Saga 1 and 2. He gives rather strange and vague, but helpful advice.

If I recall, there was one advice he said about not trusting people behind a mask. He foreshadows a certain Backbiter who wears the typical Norse helmet that will cause a mutiny at some point... do not let that guy into your party.

As for number two, he says to not trust the one in yellow and blue. He's most likely referring to that horseborn at the end of the game... perhaps in the third game we can get some vengeance on her.

Well that's my thoughts. Sorry if this is already known but I felt like sharing.

[Cadaver]

Yeah, his cryptic words tend to accurately foreshadow several future events. I think he also mentioned something about staying away from stone markers as well.

Someone else also pointed out that Dagr has a mask too and is yellow and blue.

[Morindacil]

Originally posted by Cadaver:

Yeah, his cryptic words tend to accurately foreshadow several future events. I think he also mentioned something about staying away from stone markers as well.

Someone else also pointed out that Dagr has a mask too and is yellow and blue.

Yeah. I forgot about his warning and had to fight some Kragsmen, which was a bother. Next playthrough, won't make the same mistake.

Oh? Though yes he is, but the blue isn't that prominent and he does wear a helmet that covers half of his face. But it is most likely another possibility since Rugga will attack the main guy or girl if they don't make the right decisions throughout the second game's decisions.

Though, I mainly think now that he meant Canary when he said about beware of the one in yellow and blue. So yeah, at the end of the game (finished the game), it is implied she did something... horrid, and she just smiled. We'll see in the next game.

[Morindacil]

Originally posted by Cadaver:

Yeah, his cryptic words tend to accurately foreshadow several future events. I think he also mentioned something about staying away from stone markers as well.

Someone else also pointed out that Dagr has a mask too and is yellow and blue.

Oh and his name, deriving from the name Trygve, means true, truthful, trustworthy, etc. in the Scandinavian language. So that gives more indication to trust him, despite his random behavior.

[Cadaver]

Unless it's an intentional red herring, I would agree with you that it probably is Canary, which is very disconcerting, to say the least. Especially since I gave her a powerful item during that last battle! Oops.

Enemies both outside and inside the walls. What a cliffhanger. Banner Saga 3 can't come soon enough!

[SirKwint]

You know, there is one important bit that matters when you compare Onef case in BS1 and Canary in BS2 - you could send Onef (one wearng a mask-helmet) away and make use of Tryggvi advice, but you can't send away Canary. Irrespective of your choice, the outcome is ALWAYS horseborn within city walls with you.

So either Tryggvi referred to something else with "yellow and blue will lie to you", or developers ripped us of choice here =)

[Yodums]

As someone explained to me on a bug I experienced, "Yellow and blue will lie to you" means having Canary in your surival mode party of all female characters prevents unlocking the all female achievement in survival mode :)

[coffee4URmom]

So in the first Banner Saga, Tryggvi warns you of Onef. If you trust Onef, Egil will die. Likewise, in the second Banner Saga, Tryggvi warns you of someone in blue and yellow. As far as I know, Griss, Nid, Sparr, Dagr, and Canary are the only characters in the game to wear both blue and yellow. However, of these characters only Dagr blatantly lies to you and kills Ludin if you trust him. More so, Dagr is the only other character in the entire series to wear a masked helmet like Onef did. Canary may have betrayed you, but it is not clearly shown in this installment of the game. Furthermore, in the first Banner Saga, the betrayal happened in the next chapter after Tryggvi warned you. That in mind, Dagr's betrayal takes place far sooner than Canary's possible betrayal, which is not even revealed in the second Banner Saga. Plus, you can do nothing about Canary's supposed betrayal, but you can prevent Dagr's betrayal, just as you could prevent Onef's betrayal in the first Banner Saga.

All that being said, yes it is possible that he is referring to Canary, but I believe it is far more likely he is warning you of Dagr.

[Aleonymous]

Dunno why you cannot stop Canary's betrayal in Saga2, like you could stop Onef.

However, in Saga1 Tryggvi offers this advice directly ("don't trust that guy") whereas in Saga2 he just whistles his tip like it is something beyond your control ("she _will_ lie to you")

[Kelibath]

Originally posted by ethanvsanders:

So in the first Banner Saga, Tryggvi warns you of Onef. If you trust Onef, Egil will die. Likewise, in the second Banner Saga, Tryggvi warns you of someone in blue and yellow. As far as I know, Griss, Nid, Sparr, Dagr, and Canary are the only characters in the game to wear both blue and yellow. However, of these characters only Dagr blatantly lies to you and kills Ludin if you trust him. More so, Dagr is the only other character in the entire series to wear a masked helmet like Onef did. Canary may have betrayed you, but it is not clearly shown in this installment of the game...

I tend to follow the notion that the colour scheme itself is a subtle hint toward deceptiveness.

Nid lies to you about her "family recipe" for eggs. Minor, yes, but still.
Griss' yellow isn't quite so blatant - it only really features on his shield. His early disrespectful bluster might count as falsehood, though, if you push the definition. It's not *accurate*..
Sparr may or may not lie directly but is a skald and generally extremely shady sort. I doubt that he's not deceptive in any way, even in his sagas!
Dagr blatantly lies to you, most likely assassinates Ludin, and turns on you in some circumstances.
Canary is quite possibly lying about the "Chosen One" on your first meeting as a way to explain her actions - and potentially has her horseborn slaughter-cull a proportion of your caravan.

Bearing in mind also that Griss and Nid are minor, non-critical side characters, it's reasonable for their "instances" of deception to have been more minor.

As for the prophecy referring to a major event, I agree, it's likely Dagr or Canary - if not both.

And yes, Dagr also "looks through his helmet"..