No fog of war?

[Doggy]

It will be very idiotic when you can see all enemy units at the beginning and its very unrealistic too.So all hills are useless,you cant hide unit behind hills,walls ect. and make traps.
Without fog of war it will not very strategic. Every other rts game use fog of war!

Only when using for example spy-drones or other spy-structures or you have a line of sight it will be realistic to see the enemies.
But too see all units behind wall,hills ect. it is very idiotic. But not sure if the game use fog of war or not.But in the videos it seems you can see all enemies units at the beginning.

I hope the game use fog of war,otherwise the game is absolute useless for an strategic game and all tactics are only a bad joke,gameplay will only "who click and rush faster".gameplay.

So i hope for a fog of war!!!!

[Vyndicu]

Have you seen the IGN gameplay video yet? I can tell you for sure there are line of sight and fog of war.

If there is a hill in the way it will block your view etc... It is kind of hard to tell but I can spot a few instance where the enemy unit just sudden appear as soon you move into sensor range.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by Doggy:

It will be very idiotic when you can see all enemy units at the beginning and its very unrealistic too.So all hills are useless,you cant hide unit behind hills,walls ect. and make traps.
Without fog of war it will not very strategic. Every other rts game use fog of war!

Only when using for example spy-drones or other spy-structures or you have a line of sight it will be realistic to see the enemies.
But too see all units behind wall,hills ect. it is very idiotic. But not sure if the game use fog of war or not.But in the videos it seems you can see all enemies units at the beginning.

I hope the game use fog of war,otherwise the game is absolute useless for an strategic game and all tactics are only a bad joke,gameplay will only "who click and rush faster".gameplay.

So i hope for a fog of war!!!!

Have you played a HW game? The Sensors Manager shows you the entire map BUT there IS FOG OF WAR. You see the terrain but not where the enemy units are until you scout them out... so no worries, 99% there's fog of war.

[Ned]

Yes there is FoW you can clearly see the sensors/probes in the terrain if you watch even videos from 13' back in Hardware days.

[Doggy]

Great!!! So i think the game will be very great. I hate so much all the "fast-click-games" like company of heroes,starcraft ect. Many rts games they called "tactical" are only fast-click-rusher-games,but NOT real strategic games.
I think DoK will be like supreme commander 1. Because the very big maps it will not be a fast click or rusher game (hope so).
You will not found many rts games they are not hectical. And wargame are not very good too, Many say it will be a tactical game,but it is not. You cant build units in the game (only before game start with created decks before) and so it is very often luck what deck you use and the enemy.
And wargame is very often hectical (who rush faster to a town). The game use a click-counter,that say a lot !!! And wargame have no comfort function,every action need a click.So it will be a big clickfest.

It will like a dream when DoK will be a strategic game where you must use your brain and not a fast click-finger.

[Ned]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztEd_p8RQG0

I think it is around 19 mins in they explain Fog of War and how you can use smoke to hide a advance or throw out smoke so you can get away.

All very helpful with RTS

Also mention there will be a focus on macro with units and not special abilities like the crap moba games out there at the moment.

[Doggy]

THX again! I thought the game have no fog of war because i saw the map (zoom out max) that shown all units. But this was perhaps a mission where you can see all units.

But ok....very good to know that the game have a fof of war and realistic line of sight.

My english is too bad to understand all in the video.