How do you keep ice and snow from melting when you are not in a frozen biome?

[BustedHipGaming]

Title says it all.

[techgodd]

1st-lay down a base of player crafted blocks. 2nd-keep snow & ice blocks well isolated from any & all natural blocks. 3rd-ice, snow blocks must be at least 3 high, 3 wide, & 3 long.

[Lil Puppy]

O.o since when do Ice and Snow melt? I use both in many constructions and they're still there and most are just sitting on grass blocks/sand blocks/ocean.

[Darth Nautas]

IIRC, minimal self-sustaining cluster of blocks is 2X2. Place 4 lava, ice, snow in a square shape and they will stay as they are.

[Lil Puppy]

oh right, nvm. I totally forgot about that mechanism.

[BustedHipGaming]

Originally posted by Darth Nautas:

IIRC, minimal self-sustaining cluster of blocks is 2X2. Place 4 lava, ice, snow in a square shape and they will stay as they are.

Doesn't seem to work that way in the lava layer. You can't place them fast enough to build a 2-block cube before they melt. :)

[Darth Nautas]

Remove ALL The hardened lava blocks, and place ignous rock in their place. I'm not sure, but I think that heat reaches up to 4 blocks distance in all directions, so you have to have blocks that don't give heat if you want to have unmelted ice.

Hardened lava on the floor or ceiling contributes to the ambient heat. So yeah, you have to dig 4 blocks deep and remove the hardened lava, and select a ceiling made of either stalactite blocks, or igneous rock.

[BustedHipGaming]

Originally posted by Darth Nautas:

Remove ALL The hardened lava blocks, and place ignous rock in their place. I'm not sure, but I think that heat reaches up to 4 blocks distance in all directions, so you have to have blocks that don't give heat if you want to have unmelted ice.

Hardened lava on the floor or ceiling contributes to the ambient heat. So yeah, you have to dig 4 blocks deep and remove the hardened lava, and select a ceiling made of either stalactite blocks, or igneous rock.

I've tried that, and tried player-crafted blocks, no success so far :(

[alikhi]

Ice slopes dont melt even in the lava layer, so you could try putting an underlayer of those below where you are trying to place your ice, that is if you find you still need ICE, if you are just trying to geth the slippery ice surface, then you can place ice slopes, and rotate them to get one of the flat sides up.

[BustedHipGaming]

I want ice in that layer to insulate a base from the heat. Sadly ice slopes do not radiate cold, so they are not helpful for what I am trying to accomplish. :(

[mid endian]

what about a box of player created blocks? seal yourself away from the heat with carpet or something, then inside your carpet cube create your ice one.

[BustedHipGaming]

Tried that. Did stone brick wall 6 blocks thick in all directions, still could not place ice fast enough to keep it from melting. I think another player nailed it: Heat and cold are different than corruption in a key way. While they can radiate from blocks, in their "native zones" (lava layer and high altitude) they are just an ambient feature of the area. Corruption is not like that. Remove the blocks from a region of the corruption zone and there's no corruption any more.

And that makes it much easier to combat cold than heat, because it is easy to place heat sources like hardened lava blocks or fire pits in a cold zone since they don't "freeze into something useless". On the other hand, the only things that cool you down (ice and snow) melt into water which is useless for keeping you cool.

I think it might be possible to place ice in the lava layer, sure; but maybe my 45-year-old, arthritis-ridden fingers just can't place it fast enough to make it stay frozen.

Has anyone here has success doing that? Can you post a screen shot of the smallest size group of ice blocks you have gotten to stay solid?

[mid endian]

what about water itself? maybe fill a cube with water, then replace with ice.

[BustedHipGaming]

OMG you might be onto something: make a frame with the space you want to be ice, fill with water, chuck freeze bomb, WHAM! instant ice wall.

[Lil Puppy]

I made a new ice tower with lights to light it up from bottom to top and found that sometimes a block of ice would just melt even though it was surrounded by other blocks of ice. I eventually got it stabilized but it was a hassle, they melt too quickly now. You have to place them down into a stable matrix within seconds of each other and sometimes it doesn't matter.

Doing this in the lava layer would prove futile as temperature and stabilization time are connected, you'd have to get your mouse macro software out just to place them fast enough!