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J4N Jan 29, 2018 @ 11:17am
Game freezes every few seconds
Yeah, title says it all I guess.
I run this game on a Win 7 Ultimate 64bit computer, so it`s not about Win 10 Creators Update.

CPU: i7 2600k overclocked to 4.1GHz.
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1333
SSD Samsung 850 Evo
GPU: Asus GTX 1080ti (bit oversized for the current build but rest will follow;)
MONITOR: SyncMaster T260 Full HD 16:10

So beside the GPU it`s not an "up-to-date system". I know that.
Anyways, I can run the new Wolfenstein with 2xDSR resolution and everything on Ultra with around 120fps. Same for other "graphically sophisticated" games.

In Creativerse I get lag spikes or something like that every few seconds, no matter where I am or what I do. This often leads to falling off a cliff or tree, because sometimes it`s like there is an input lag or something and when the game "continues" after that lag/ freeze, you get like teleported to a location next to you.
It`s really not fun to play like this I have to say.

Is there maybe a known workaround I haven`t found?

I tried to set my gpu settings to "max performance" already and it didn`t help. I set my physx processor to the 1080ti, but still the same freezes/ stutters. I even excluded the whole Creativerse folder in my antivir and made a clean driver installation with DDU but no matter what I do I still have those freezes and stutters.

Some help would be greatly appreciated!
Last edited by J4N; Jan 30, 2018 @ 12:42pm
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Captain_Bunneee Jan 29, 2018 @ 11:22am 
my system is close to yours except I'm still on a GTX 570. It is likely an overclocking setting issue with the motherboard.

My Asus motherboard has this Auto Clock Optimum whatever fancy name. It caused the exact same problem as yours. Set it back to Normal. You'll probably find this issue fixed.
J4N Jan 29, 2018 @ 11:31am 
Mhh, I just used the board tool to raise the Multipliers a bit. Checked the temps and stability with kombustor and furmark before and it works fine. Same in other games. I will try the cpu on stock speed but I don`t really think this is the issue.
Btw cpu is cooled by a TR HR-02 Macho Rev.B.
My board is a Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 rev 1.3 (2 PCI, 3 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR3 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)

I will try default CPU setting and report back then. Thanks for the hint.
J4N Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:33pm 
Okay, I checked a few things now but the problem is still not fixed.

I tried the game with my CPU running at stock speeds and I even set my RAM profile to standard in BIOS. Still the same. It really feels like the game stops for a moment and then all the movement that should have happened then happen quickly and you get pushed to side, front, back or whereever.
It`s really annoying while flying because you change direction rapidly when you were steering to one side while the freeze happened.

I even tried older nvidia drivers. Really annoying because it`s pretty gamebreaking.
Last edited by J4N; Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:34pm
Captain_Bunneee Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:43pm 
I'm not exactly the best guy to advise on computer hardware, but do you hear any weird sound when running Creativerse from your cpu? I had this "noisy fan" sound when I had the bad oc bios settings.

Another thing, could you share what PSU you're using?
Last edited by Captain_Bunneee; Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:44pm
Captain_Bunneee Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:51pm 
ok I look through a little on the specs you provided.

Basically your motherboard is running PCI-E while your latest gpu runs on PCI-E 3.0.
Your motherboard could run PCI-E 3.0 as it conforms to the standard but it requires you to upgrade your processor to an Intel 22nm CPU.

So it does seem to me your GPU is killing your motherboard at the moment and btw since you've gotten an impressive GPU, choose a motherboard without onboard graphics because it may also cause hardware conflicts..
Last edited by Captain_Bunneee; Jan 29, 2018 @ 1:54pm
J4N Jan 30, 2018 @ 8:39am 
Ok, thanks a lot for the hint. Strange thing is I talked to a mate of mine who works as a pc seller and it specialist and he said, that the difference in pci express standards should not be a problem with the combination I was going for. So you say my GPU will really damage my board and maybe more because of this fact? And why can I play other games like Arma 3 for example, with a okay performance with a view distance of about 4km? Arma 3 is not really the best optimized game. And as I said Wolfenstein worked in doubled resolution (DSR 2x) without any lags at all! 120fps+ with everything on ultra.
Do you think all the posts in the forum about this lag thing (Untill now I found several) all have some kind of those problems? I can`t belive that.

But it somehow sounds like you know what you are talking about and when it comes to hardware combinations I am really not a pro. I checked everything before I bought the card and even talked to my mate about the compatibility and felt safe with this.

Btw my PSU is a Be Quite Pure Power with 630W. I read about people who run the 1080ti on a 500W PSU without problems even if the specs tell you to use a stronger one.
so this should not be the problem as well.

Because this lag/ freeze only happens in Creativerse I don`t think that it`s a problem of my hardware, although it surely can be that you are right. Have you looked in the forums for this lag/ freeze topic? It`s up there very often, so tbh I think it`s the games fault or microsoft ♥♥♥♥♥♥ something up with an update again. But since everybody is crying about Win10 Creators Patch I can`t really find anything related to a faulty win7 security patch or something which was released last time. Could be a cause as well. Who knows. I just know that I can run much fancier games without a problem, so why should it be different with a game with such a low view distance and such a low graphics quality?
Sry, no offense to the game but you know there are much more graphically sophisticated games out there which work for me. Why should Creativerse be the exception? :D

Btw, no I don´t have wired sounds coming from my GPU or anything. Minimal coil whine when the GPU really has to work. But sounds normal to me and is very quite.
Captain_Bunneee Jan 30, 2018 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by J4N:
Ok, thanks a lot for the hint. Strange thing is I talked to a mate of mine who works as a pc seller and it specialist and he said, that the difference in pci express standards should not be a problem with the combination I was going for. So you say my GPU will really damage my board and maybe more because of this fact? And why can I play other games like Arma 3 for example, with a okay performance with a view distance of about 4km? Arma 3 is not really the best optimized game. And as I said Wolfenstein worked in doubled resolution (DSR 2x) without any lags at all! 120fps+ with everything on ultra.
Do you think all the posts in the forum about this lag thing (Untill now I found several) all have some kind of those problems? I can`t belive that.

But it somehow sounds like you know what you are talking about and when it comes to hardware combinations I am really not a pro. I checked everything before I bought the card and even talked to my mate about the compatibility and felt safe with this.

Btw my PSU is a Be Quite Pure Power with 630W. I read about people who run the 1080ti on a 500W PSU without problems even if the specs tell you to use a stronger one.
so this should not be the problem as well.

Because this lag/ freeze only happens in Creativerse I don`t think that it`s a problem of my hardware, although it surely can be that you are right. Have you looked in the forums for this lag/ freeze topic? It`s up there very often, so tbh I think it`s the games fault or microsoft ♥♥♥♥♥♥ something up with an update again. But since everybody is crying about Win10 Creators Patch I can`t really find anything related to a faulty win7 security patch or something which was released last time. Could be a cause as well. Who knows. I just know that I can run much fancier games without a problem, so why should it be different with a game with such a low view distance and such a low graphics quality?
Sry, no offense to the game but you know there are much more graphically sophisticated games out there which work for me. Why should Creativerse be the exception? :D

Btw, no I don´t have wired sounds coming from my GPU or anything. Minimal coil whine when the GPU really has to work. But sounds normal to me and is very quite.

I'm not trying to brush off your problems or anyone else's problem. I'm only offering some advices to you since your computer specs is close to mine.

The PSU i'm using is 700W. I used some calculation sites when I built this computer 6 years back. It really depends on what kind of programs you run concurrently while gaming.(Downloading, playing music etc)

I'm not saying Creativerse is perfect without bugs or glitches. Surely on the forums you could read plenty of complaints. How many of them provide concrete logs and details of their specs?

All I can say is think about Creativerse like Windows. A fresh install gets you 30s startup to desktop, after installing all sorts of programs Windows will lag. Similarly, you build a small house in CV, there's no problem. You build massive structures with running machines within 4 claims and expect lag free experience, that'll be over expectation.

Everything in life has limitation. Optimisation works both ways. If you can't rule out issues that may be caused by hardware compatibility, it's not really fair to put it on the game? Some people find 50fps is smooth, while others only accept 60fps. So without statistics and details, most of the complaint posts aren't constructive. Every report is unique, just like you and me, we're both human but we have different health history and family background. So just because someone else said they experienced lag doesn't mean it's the same lag as yours.

I'm not affiliated to Playful, so everything I said/posted remains solely as my opinion.

If you're interested to help the game,

Reach out to the official support email. Send them whatever logs they need to analyse the issue.
J4N Jan 30, 2018 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by Captain_Bunneee:
I'm not trying to brush off your problems or anyone else's problem. I'm only offering some advices to you since your computer specs is close to mine.

The PSU i'm using is 700W. I used some calculation sites when I built this computer 6 years back. It really depends on what kind of programs you run concurrently while gaming.(Downloading, playing music etc)

I'm not saying Creativerse is perfect without bugs or glitches. Surely on the forums you could read plenty of complaints. How many of them provide concrete logs and details of their specs?

All I can say is think about Creativerse like Windows. A fresh install gets you 30s startup to desktop, after installing all sorts of programs Windows will lag. Similarly, you build a small house in CV, there's no problem. You build massive structures with running machines within 4 claims and expect lag free experience, that'll be over expectation.

Everything in life has limitation. Optimisation works both ways. If you can't rule out issues that may be caused by hardware compatibility, it's not really fair to put it on the game? Some people find 50fps is smooth, while others only accept 60fps. So without statistics and details, most of the complaint posts aren't constructive. Every report is unique, just like you and me, we're both human but we have different health history and family background. So just because someone else said they experienced lag doesn't mean it's the same lag as yours.

I'm not affiliated to Playful, so everything I said/posted remains solely as my opinion.

If you're interested to help the game,

Reach out to the official support email. Send them whatever logs they need to analyse the issue.

I know that you don`t want to brush off my problems. Sry, if I sounded like that.
I really know what you mean but I don`t complain about fps issues, the game stops/ freezes every few seconds and then when it continues all input that should have been given while the freeze happened, then happens at one moment and you get pushed to the side. I know this exact bug from Armas vehicles in earlier versions. It got fixed mostly now. I played a lot of Arma 3 Wasteland mod and I know that every structure or if you want it like this, every object that has to be calculated has an impact on the games performance.

But I only have three little base locations in Creativerse untill now. In the main base (which is one medium sized room^^) I only have two forges, two of those other crafting devices(dont remember name atm), a bed, 6 boxes and three teleporters. Thats my "base". I would call it small.
Then I have one other base that only has one bed, forge, crafting device and a teleporter.
The third location is just one teleporter in a small room near a cave. Nothing more.

I built huge bases in Arma and other games which had a lot higher data volume, caused by higher resoluted textures, higher view distance etc.
The Admin on the server I played back then was a software dev who did the modding for fun. I was lucky to catch that server back then because it showed me how much can be done through optimizing. He rewrote some code of the mod to handle sqlite files instead of working with ms sql and it was a huge benefit to the overall performance of the mod.
I just want to say, I think Creativerse has some sort of problem inside the code that causes this freezes. Other games had it before and it got fixed sooner or later most of the time.
Although I work in the IT sector I don`t have any experience in programming games and I know that there are many things influencing a system and its performance. I don`t want to complain here, because I really know what it means to identify the cause of a software problem. I just hoped for a solution to my problem I had overlooked untill now.

I really appreciate your advises, every hint could help, so thank you. I just think it`s a games problem although I am sure not sure:D
I don`t have a lot of stuff running in the background tbh. I only have steam, my soundcard panel, microsoft security essentials^^(keep it low:D Problem sits behind the keyboard most of the times:D), a quicktool to config rules for my firewall, Asus GPU Tweak 2, Gigabyte Easy Tune(which I don`t really use but it has Cpu-Z built in) and that`s it. No emule or anything else in the back, that should cause those freezes:D
I really don`t have any idea what else to try. I already did a lot of stuff. I don`t want to do a clean windows installation just for Creativerse and I already did a fresh nvidia driver installation with DDU. With two different drivers.

I think I just have to wait till someone has a solution to this problem or I can afford the rest of my new system:D Thanks for your help anyways! Let`s hope for a quick fix.
Last edited by J4N; Jan 30, 2018 @ 12:39pm
levisoos Feb 4, 2018 @ 12:12am 
Why i have bad fps?
-I have i7 7700k 2,8ghz , gtx 1050ti 4gb , and 16 gb ram , and i only have 50 fps...
Adun Feb 4, 2018 @ 12:26am 
It's probably your internet connection. Check out the connection issues guide: http://www.creativersegame.com/help/connection.html
SyntaxError Feb 4, 2018 @ 5:41am 
Frame rate problems
When first time published, I was one of the first to play it, and it was great with very smooth frame rate, but now I noticed that the frame rates drops and I have spikes each time I walk around or turn, even I noticed this on some youtube videos of other players,.

My computer is very high spec, but still got this poor performace of a game, devs need to fix it, its a great game, I love to play it, but sadly its not fun playing a game with such poor performance
Last edited by SyntaxError; Feb 5, 2018 @ 8:45am
entuland  [developer] Feb 4, 2018 @ 11:17am 
Bad FPS can also be due to heavy loaded areas - this game is very CPU intensive, and even if you have a pretty neat setup, depending on where you are your FPS may drop even lower than that.

I have a slightly less powerful machine than yours and I get FPS values from 10 to 120 depending on where I am, on the server, on the amount of players around and so forth.
cynox Feb 6, 2018 @ 1:06pm 
I've the Skylake-One... my Computer isn't the Problem - one day i have lags by switching phaser-stones with the mouse, the other day no lag... but really... the devs have to implement as much as it works on client and sparse serverinput -> the lags are from the creativerse-servers. i started playing on 30.12.17, my current meaning is that the game is no fun because the hardcore-lags destroying all of the fun. (destroying buildings because lag, falling down because lag, movement in phaser again because lag^^

it was less, but i got some time withoutly lags and it was fun - i'm pretty sure if they don't work on it, other minecraft-clones will win!!!

maybe the devs should answer in title-page that it would be better, i myself are not willing to give a long chance at this.
DonaldDuck Feb 6, 2018 @ 1:57pm 
Your PC config is ok but You net? This is server side game - all map is downloading real time from server - map is not generated by Your pc but downloaded from server. Check ping and wifi stability.
J4N Feb 7, 2018 @ 9:36am 
If you search on google for "stuttering Creativerse" you get a lot of results. Can´t be that they all have the wrong computer. As I said, I can play much better looking games and it really breaks the gameplay. Can`t use the glider because of this freezes. Because on nearly every turn I turn to tight or get "ported" to other places next to me. Although my internet connection isn`t the fastest I have a ping below 40 and my packetloss is zero. I don`t use Wifi I use a cable. If this is not fixed quickly it will be a dead game soon. I really regret buying the pro stuff I have to say. It was okay in the beginning but now it`s nearly unplayable.
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