The ability to fly, your thoughts

[xent]

I'm not a big fan of creative mode like in Minecraft but the ability to fly can be useful and here is why, When building complicated structures the ability to quickly see what your doing from a distance can be handy. Atm the only way you can do this is by going down to the ground and move away from the structure you are attempting to build. Doing this on builds that are 50+ blocks high is a pain, cause that means you have to leave your pillar your standing on and after you have looked you have to pillar back up, imaging the need to go back and forward every 5 min.

With the ability to fly one can see what he/she is doing with more ease. The questions becomes than:
1) Is the ability to fly not overpowering and breaking the game?
2) If a mechanism is introduced to allow people to fly? do you want it to have limits?
3) Do you have any season why the ability to fly isn't what you want to see in this game?

Here is what we got so far;

*Because some believe flight is game breaking it concluded that flight in what ever form it may be, is best kept as an option, so that people that don't want their immersion be broken can opt not to enable this in there worlds(note, please allow the option to fly or not, be available on old worlds to).
*The way people can fly is prefered to have a fitting mechanism to Creativerse, so not like Minecraft where you just double tab spacebar and your flying magically through the air. (Glider or rocker boots are suggested)
*Alternative for people that don't want flight was scaffolding block that act like stairs on all sides within the block itself.
Other suggestion was to add a camera mode, where you fix to camera to one spot so when building you can see your progress from a distance (Maybe a toggle mod where you can go back and forward from the selected spot?)

I believe that sums it up, if you got any ideas, please add :)

[aly]

Originally posted by xent:

But then...uhmm (have to think really hard) You can grab Beeswax too easy,... Uhmm yeah...you got me...to over powering, scratch it.

I have to say, even the collecting of beeswax, or flowers wouldn't be impacted since once you're up in the forest canopy, which takes all of 5 seconds even without a powercell, you've got all the flowers and beeswax you can collect.

I agree with all your other points, wings asap, no jetpacks. This would also enable you to get over large bodies of water quicker if you were able to do a sprint fly.

[Waxxedazz]

a set of boots that can make you fly for a period or vehicles would make that easier without having to use creative mode

[xent]

Originally posted by auntielynds:

Originally posted by xent:

But then...uhmm (have to think really hard) You can grab Beeswax too easy,... Uhmm yeah...you got me...to over powering, scratch it.

I have to say, even the collecting of beeswax, or flowers wouldn't be impacted since once you're up in the forest canopy, which takes all of 5 seconds even without a powercell, you've got all the flowers and beeswax you can collect.

I agree with all your other points, wings asap, no jetpacks. This would also enable you to get over large bodies of water quicker if you were able to do a sprint fly.

I put the Beeswax in because it is the only thing thats needed for building, Its up high and you need to craft, that, and its a joke, because in my opinion there is no reason not to give player the ability to fly, But MoJang thinks differently about that cause they never added this in there survival part of the game, But for Minecraft maybe i can understand this a little (not much) because the Nether and the Ender Dragon becomes a joke.

In creativerse... even with Flight... there is no time to activate Flight when you fall in to lava because the distance is only 5-8 blocks, so if you think about the only other reasons where flight can be over powered you come to the conclusion that collecting Beeswax,Foraging trees, Mountain climbing and Building are the only times a player can die from falling damage.
So thats 4 reasons to die, take away Beeswax and trees because the devs are working on a better way to harvest wood and Beeswax isn't that dangerous, your left with Building and mountain climbing, then take away mountains because its rare that you find your self in that position, then whats left is building.
Then you start to wonder... if this is a building forcused game based on the players creativity, why make it so hard for player to build by giving them a handicap?

Originally posted by Waxxedazz:

a set of boots that can make you fly for a period or vehicles would make that easier without having to use creative mode

How long of a Period? The same amount then stamina? if so... then yeah i can see that, but you still gone have to use pillars then to stand on because 5 seconds isn't very long unless you mix it with a potion that gives you 5 min of let's say Booster regen much like a potion now makes you immune to some effects for 5 min.

[Ebonyize]

Why?? flymode would ruin immersion...gameplay would cease to exist...all this wanting fly mode or infinite materials or a faster this that or the other thing because "I just want to build" it sounds to me like there is a desire to turn this wonderful game into minecraft for the minecraft junkies...I am nearing 2000 hours in this game and it has been pure fun and challenging for me...take all the leaves you harvest and turn them into shredded leaves, use those leaves for scaffolding, build a platform as a viewpoint to observe your work craft a teleporter or place your or a friend's ts there...teleport back and forth wear a lumite powercell and you will hardly wear it out..bada bing you get what you want and the rest of us keep what we like...thats how i feel

[bkeniry (aka Quetzovercoatl)]

I agree with you Ebonyize, it's all about the immersion.

Having to gather the resources, craft the blocks, jump and climb to build block by block; these all give the feeling that you are really there building these things.

If I wanted a CAD program I would use a CAD program. (Actually, I do use CAD programs, but that's for work and projects in the real world)

[xent]

Originally posted by Ebonyize:

it sounds to me like there is a desire to turn this wonderful game into minecraft for the minecraft junkies

Iam not a minecraft Junky, was playing creativers long before i ever done minecraft, and this was only for mods. And i think the stigma of fear that "Oh no we can't cause that will make it like minecraft" needs to stop.

When the Devs started this game they wanted to improve the Minecraft game, where they improved on the flaws like better Multiplayer, more easy crafting with out the need for Wiki, Better art work not only on textures of the blocks but also animation of creatures and a more complex environment with cold and hot temperatures.
This post is not to just discuss the opinions of the ability to fly but also how people see it improved.

The immersion your talking about is gone when you're high up trying complex style of building, that and people miss the fact that it is a futuristic game so the ability to hover like Waxxedazz sugested will fit in with out breaking anything, That and the fact that there is no overpowering effect because the current mecanics in the game.

@bkeniry (aka Quetzovercoatl) I didn't even talk about creative mode so did you read the posts or did you just assumed that with talking about Flying you thought creative mode?

[bkeniry (aka Quetzovercoatl)]

No, I did not just assume you were talking about creative mode. My post was in response to Ebonyize's point about immersion, so I mentioned all of the elements which make the experience more immersive.
Included amongst these is jumping and climbing to build, which is counter to the idea of having a free flying ability.
I don't mind at all the idea of some sort of 'realistic' flying, where this would have limits and ideally at least approximate real flying physics. Some sort of glider for instance would be lots of fun.

[xent]

That's what we're discussing now, how do you see flight + for the people that are totally opposite to the idea of some sort of flight, we can always put this to a vote of having this feature a dlc or something along that line, granted that it will be a O.P item on the shop, at leased people that are opposed to the idea don't have it automatically available in there game. That said... i wonder how long it will take them to hold off buying it anyway, showing that there nay saying was total BS. That or World options to restrict the ability to flight.

[ratatouille]

Hot air balloons, gliders and grappling hooks!

[Blaze1961]

A scaffolding recipe, may be an idea. Reusable scaffolding pieces (the more you have the higher you can go) that you can move around as needed to reach high places when building or other things.

[xent]

scaffolding? for decoration maybe but you can use all the blocks as scaffolding, and they are reusable

[Hoki]

my suggestion: Builderdrone

a small flyable bot that has a usable inventory of 1 slot (to give back the one slot u'd lose otherwise by using this lil fella)

how does this fella work:

first off u'll need arcstones to unlock the recipe.
once u crafted one u can use it to spawn the actual bot (the item will remain in the quickslot). At this point acts like a pet with active follow command (u could even add the costumeitems ?!) but u can give it one stack of blocks.
By reusing the item in the quickslot the camera switches to the bot and u can control it. it wont be affected by gravity and build/mine as long as its inventory is empty (below 1 kind of block-99units)
to completly remove the bot u simply put the quickslotitem back into inventory. the bot will then return to u and add the remaining blocks

[Blaze1961]

Originally posted by xent:

scaffolding? for decoration maybe but you can use all the blocks as scaffolding, and they are reusable

You can't climb up a sinlge verticle column of blocks. Scaffolding would be basically a climbable block that looks like ....well scaffolding.

[Ebonyize]

I knew there would be flack over the word "junkie" oh well...allow me to introduce you to "my dictionary" junkie is a choice - a desire - a preference...not intended to be derogatory...with that being said I am a senior citizen with an opinion and a tendency to shove political correctness where the sun doesn't shine...if you get my intent on what i just stated.Furthermore if you do not want honest dialogue or how people feel about a certain concept you are pondering then don't post the question asking these things.I would like verification from a Dev on your statement "when the devs started this game they wanted to improve the Minecraft game, etc. etc." because if that is true then I apologize I thought the opposite that they didn't want to be another Minecraft game just a unique game in the genre of building games...which they are and I sincerly hope it is this way...and it stays this way. The art the challenges the community and above all the developers are the best I have come across in the industry of videogames...and since I have retired and got my first rig to play videogames I am "a videogame junkie" in retirement with time on my hands...and no large pension to travel the world , or I would be doing that instead lol peace be with you all and happy trails !!

[odinsrunes]

Originally posted by Blaze1961:

Originally posted by xent:

scaffolding? for decoration maybe but you can use all the blocks as scaffolding, and they are reusable

You can't climb up a sinlge verticle column of blocks. Scaffolding would be basically a climbable block that looks like ....well scaffolding.

something that combines Blocks and Ladders?

Personally, i use blocks and teleporters; chaining them together so i can teleport to different angles. They take some time to build but, after that, reviewing your work is fast.

I think flying would still be the best way to view. Maybe a new pet that you tame and ride (fly).