Killing people, why?

[harf4ng]

Hi,

When we sneak behind someone, we have to choices: neutralzing him with a short press of a key, or killing him with a long press.
I wonder, what's the point in killing him? I always neutralize him, and when I come back hours later, he is still unconscious.

Thanks

[mbutton15]

When someone is knocked unconscious there is always the chance that he can be discovered by one of his mates and when that happens the unconscius guy can get woken up again. This only really applies when there are masses of guards in a confind space, but even that can be overcome by hiding the bodies.

From an XP point of view you also get more points for a non-lethal takedown.

On the plus side for killing them, some of the kill cut-scenes can be fun to watch, especially dual takedowns.

[AMJ]

My 5 cent:
Killing or not killing is a choice given by the game.
The point that neutralizing or killing makes no difference. You can loot in both cases the person. In many games one way is better for the player. Normaly the player decide whats is better for him. In this case both is equal. So you can decide which way you like.

[Goron]

I agree that the killing is completely useless, since it is much louder and therefore you run danger of being heard by other guards. And like someone else already said, you get more xp for nonlethal takedowns. They should have made it like in splinter cell where both takedowns are equal imo.

[harf4ng]

I think they should have done so either side has a meaning... when you kill people he will not recover (he is dead) but there should have drawback. And people you just knock uncounscious should recover by themselves after a bit of time...

The more noise when you kill is stupid, why can't you kill in silent? ;) Moreover, what prevents you from killing someone once he is uncounscious? I don't say in the game, but really... when someone is uncouscious you should be able to kill him anyway ^^

Something I dislike as well is that if I specialize myself in piracy and stealth, I have a disadvantage with the end of level bosses as I do not have what it requires to kill them efficiently ;) Sure I can, but it is not optimal. Good that the first boss was stupid, I killed him by hiding behind a pillar and turning around a pillar and shot him with my 10 mm pistol in the head when he stopped shooting at me ^^

[Kaizar]

LOL BRUV

[mrcalhou]

You CAN kill them afterwards...

[Red Shift]

/quote... I think they should have done so either side has a meaning...

It kinda does - your play style will be reflected in Jensens moral evaluation of himself in the end game choice.

[Dante]

the whole game you can always knock down everyone and always have enough time to carry them to a safe place. the idea between killing or kocking out was good but it doesn´twork as good

[raubrey]

Well this is a disappointment to hear that it really doesn't matter. I thought there were 4 endings and consequences for actions. I am on my second playthrough but didn't finish the first one.

Oh well, I guess thinking such added more game time for me as I redid areas that turned into an unintentional blood bath/gunfight.

Some of you might like Dishonored -- though it's very dark and differenent.

But in that game, there are consequences for chosing to kill vs. not, both in the game and the ending.

In that game though you can accidently (or purposely, to hide a body or otherwise) kill an unconsious person. So the OP makes a good point.

[Waldo [M as in Mancy]]

You can kill unconscious people in Deus Ex. I've tried. Even on my latest run where 3ish people died, I had a supressed 10mm on me the whole time, you never know. If I screw up, everyone dies then I restart a save :p

[stratakarius]

Killing someone in the game is more permanent as the person can't be woken up. Sure, you can just headshot them with a silenced weapon from afar but if you're going to include the CQC non-lethal, why not have the lethal version too? I thought it was pretty cool. Not many opportunities to use it the way I play but sometimes its fun just to run up and use it then reload ESPECIALLY since it's frustrating to play sometimes since i'm going for pacifist!

[DeathMarine]

it does matter. it changes which ending you get. you knock them out our are good. you kill them you are bad. game keeps count and gives you different ending dialogue based on that

[Ceejay]

I generally go non kill, but when it came to those people who helped kidnap the scientists, I got great satfisfaction from killing them all, well on my 2nd play through, I basically killed no one on my first play through.

[Moo-Viper X]

For me it all depends on who I am fighting if I kill them or just knock out but either way I never leave an enemy standing. For instance when you do that first mission at the Sarif plant where those Purity First idiots got duped into invading a place they thought would be empty, I usually show mercy and just knock them all out until you reach the room where that one punk kills the hostage just to be an ass. From that point on I kill every one of them.

The commandos in black I kill every time, no exceptions, no mercy. Belltower guys I will leave alive if they are respectful, the ones with a smart mouth I usually kill. Now once they invade and massacre the entire population of the Alice Garden pods, from then on I kill every belltower soldier I encounter in that city. In fact the only belltower guy I spare after that point is the one that lets you into that factory after you save his buddy from the chemical spill, I just knock him out.

I never spare the Harvesters, and would actually pay money for an patch that would allow me to execute Tong right there in his office chair.

Basically I play as the garbage man, and I take out the trash.

Edit: Forgot to mention that douche that is forcing his girls to get augments so he can manipulate them over the neuropozine. I like to give him flying lessons from the roof of that building.

[Ceejay]

Originally posted by Net-Viper X:

until you reach the room where that one punk kills the hostage just to be an ass.

You know you can save her right, he does not need to kill her, and you get some good info off him later for a side quest as well as some stuff of her husband.