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[Katz]

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[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Not really that basic as far as I can tell. Not complicated, but not really that basic. It's not as though the Tenchu games are that great of stealth games compared to Thief, I'm not sure where all the reverence keeps coming from.

[Kazaanh]

Tenchu had different characters and level creator, and plenty of items/traps.

[El Fuerte]

It's the closest thing to Tenchu i've ever seen on Steam. Actually, its the closest thing released in many years. Hardcore Tenchu fan here who perfected all the way from Stealth Assassins to Fatal Shadows. Never cared about Tenchu Z and the stupid Wii one.

People don't even own the game or take time to upgrade Aragami's Skill tree (that includes Long Range Kunai, Decoy, Explosive Decoy, Shadow Traps, Dead Body Management and more)

It has every single right to be compared to Tenchu just for the variety of stealth kill animations alone. Level creator wasn't even present in Wrath of Heaven and it was still one of the best in the series so i don't see the point ¬¬

[patpatyos]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

It's the closest thing to Tenchu i've ever seen on Steam. Actually, its the closest thing released in many years. Hardcore Tenchu fan here who perfected all the way from the original Stealth Assassins to the last good one, Fatal Shadows. Never cared about Tenchu Z and the stupid Wii one.

People don't even own the game or take time to upgrade Aragami's Skill tree (that includes Long Range Kunai, Decoy, Explosive Decoy, Shadow Traps, Dead Body Management and more)

It has every single right to be compared to Tenchu just for the variety of stealth kill animations alone.

Aragami plays pretty similarly to Tenchu 4 Shadow Assassins on Wii and PSP though with its excessive use of light and shadows and very minimal use of combat forcing you to only stealth kill enemies.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by patyos:

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

It's the closest thing to Tenchu i've ever seen on Steam. Actually, its the closest thing released in many years. Hardcore Tenchu fan here who perfected all the way from the original Stealth Assassins to the last good one, Fatal Shadows. Never cared about Tenchu Z and the stupid Wii one.

People don't even own the game or take time to upgrade Aragami's Skill tree (that includes Long Range Kunai, Decoy, Explosive Decoy, Shadow Traps, Dead Body Management and more)

It has every single right to be compared to Tenchu just for the variety of stealth kill animations alone.

Aragami plays pretty similarly to Tenchu 4 Shadow Assassins on Wii and PSP though.

Too bad i would never buy a Wii for anything so i can't comment on that game

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

I think Aragami most encourages slow, ghosting stealth, while Tenchu encourages and rewards for killing enemies. Or gives you little choice but to kill them.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by Snacks the sober sea lion:

I think Aragami most encourages slow, ghosting stealth, while Tenchu encourages and rewards for killing enemies. Or gives you little choice but to kill them.

Aragami gives you medals for killing every enemy on the map though

[patpatyos]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Originally posted by patyos:

Aragami plays pretty similarly to Tenchu 4 Shadow Assassins on Wii and PSP though.

Too bad i would never buy a Wii for anything

Could always get it for psp

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by patyos:

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Too bad i would never buy a Wii for anything

Could always get it for psp

If only they port it to Steam i would definitely get it. I don't have a psp, maybe i'll emulate it.

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Originally posted by Snacks the sober sea lion:

I think Aragami most encourages slow, ghosting stealth, while Tenchu encourages and rewards for killing enemies. Or gives you little choice but to kill them.

Aragami gives you medals for killing every enemy on the map though

Tenchu gives you new techniques for getting stealth kills. It also is much less ghost-friendly than Aragami.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by Snacks the sober sea lion:

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Aragami gives you medals for killing every enemy on the map though

Tenchu gives you new techniques for getting stealth kills. It also is much less ghost-friendly than Aragami.

But getting new techniques from Stealth Kills wasn't even a thing before Wrath of Heaven. Which is the 3rd one in the series, so i don't see the point.

Sure i agree that Aragami is way more "ghost stealth" friendly but that is obviously expected when you have a shadow leap mechanic. You could use the invisibility spell in all tenchu games and ghost through the map as well in case you don't remember. Not killing any enemy would even automatically give you Grand Master rank if i remember correctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5s25AWZwY

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

I find Tenchu too hard to get into. The stealth doesn't feel very good and feels restrictive. Whereas Aragami has been just right for me.

[Katz]

Tenchu Z gets alot of hate from self-entitled "Hardcore" Fans.
...as if being the Pupil of Rikimaru wasn't enough Fan Service to keep people pleased, people still whine about it for some reason.

the Tenchu Series was pretty much a "Copy & Paste"... there wasn't anything special about it, it was just a "Stealth Game with Ninjas!".

All they really needed to do to keep it fresh was a Level Editor. Tenchu 2: Stealth Assassins for PS1 had a simple editor... it was good for the time... but after that one, they just tried alot of Wild Experiments... Wrath of Heaven worked fine, but the rest was lost and forgotten in the Prisons of "Exclusivity".



i just hope FromSoftware Ports them up for PC since Activision lost the rights a few years ago, and they seem to be wrapping up the Dark Souls Trilogy... or maybe they might come up with a new one.

PS: Also... being a "Dark Spirit" Ninja thingy that can't Jump is kinda confusing...

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

I think From has enough experience now to try a Tenchu reboot and make it something exceptional. But publishers almost surely insist "people don't want stealth games" and wouldn't risk it.

[Katz]

Originally posted by Snacks the sober sea lion:

I think From has enough experience now to try a Tenchu reboot and make it really good. But publishers almost surely insist "people don't want stealth games" and wouldn't risk it.

Indeed... the Success of Dark Souls might kill their interest in Stealth... we might get a Second Bloodborne before FromSoftware does anything else different.