Keep getting killed in the secret room

[Vermillion]

Am I missing something because every time I go into the secret room after using the pipe Scissorman enters and attacks and there is no option to fight back and you cannot escape the room.

[Jerry QQ]

In the Rewind version, if Jennifer's avatar is red, it may not flash when encountering Scissor Man. Please rest and let your physical strength reach blue, and you can continuously press the "A" button to push him away and escape.

[Vermillion]

Originally posted by Jerry QQ:

In the Rewind version, if Jennifer's avatar is red, it may not flash when encountering Scissor Man. Please rest and let your physical strength reach blue, and you can continuously press the "A" button to push him away and escape.

Was in perfect health not red health. I am beginning to think it is a bug. Had the same issue in the room just before the secret room as well.

[Vermillion]

After the latest patch it seems that I now cannot fight back ever if Scissorman gets close.
Is this a rewind change? because in the SNES version you could fight back to knock him down.

[Jerry QQ]

In some locations, the Scissor Man will stab you directly with scissors. In this case, you have no way to press the button continuously to fight back. You may need to go to other locations and rest so that the color of your avatar changes to something other than red.

[Vermillion]

Originally posted by Jerry QQ:

In some locations, the Scissor Man will stab you directly with scissors. In this case, you have no way to press the button continuously to fight back. You may need to go to other locations and rest so that the color of your avatar changes to something other than red.

Stating once again that the character is blue so she should be free to push Scissorman down but is most rooms I am not getting the prompt, hell in hallways I am not getting the prompt to fight back.
I've only seen fight back happen twice. The second doll room and the pool just after Anne gets killed.

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No clue what triggers the "insta-death you cant fight back even if blue" but its only happened to me in bathrooms, secret room and "first chase" if I try to counter.

Some say its because you are "close to wall" but that cant be right.

I suppose the explaining is that "it just is"..

[asdbanz]

It's just a randomness. Reminds me Fear and Hunger honestly.
One time I managed to die right at the beginning of the game in bath because I was lazy to open door after Jessica closed it and even when I spammed run button during cutsene, it was already too late. Tho in previous runs it wasn't an issue at all.

[BobSchneeder45]

There are specific zones in each room where he does that. Usually in the corners so no one can get pushed out of bounds. It's often best to run up to him in the middle of the room.

[Vermillion]

Originally posted by BobSchneeder45:

There are specific zones in each room where he does that. Usually in the corners so no one can get pushed out of bounds. It's often best to run up to him in the middle of the room.

Tried standing in different areas and it does not allow you to fight back. I seriously think this is a bug related to them messing with the Scissorman spawns and some piece of code that allowed you to fight back was hard coded into his set spawns.

[BobSchneeder45]

Hmm the center of the room should be safe if he's coming from the opening in the wall.

[Sirlion]

There are rooms such as the broken corridor, endgame corridor, secret room and bathroom second visit where Scissorman just stabs you and theres nothing you can do about it.

[Mr. Miazma]

That happens to me too, after you come back out of the secret room, Scissorman runs in and its instant death. But I just go back into the secret room, and it will let you fight him off in there as normal.

[LordDarkKitsune]

I think in certain rooms or during certain 'scripted' encounters you just not able to fight back at all though i don't have enough time in game to say for certain but it's usually fairly consistent on when it won't let you fight back, due to the game's checkpoint system it can lock you in a bad spot on rare occasions though when paired with the save states that exact situation should be extremely rare though to be extra safe only create a save state while in a hallway when not being chased.

[battlecruiser2004]

In the original, Scissorman could not enter the secret room, he only has a chance to appeal in that box in the storage room adjacent to it. If you did not move to the door fast enough after the auto walk animation, he might pop out and his sprite will be close enough for him to initiate the takedown. But I guess with this edition he appears after a set amount of time has passed and can enter any room, in which case it meant you took too long. The secret room should be a quick, in-and-out thing.

Originally posted by LordDarkKitsune:

I think in certain rooms or during certain 'scripted' encounters you just not able to fight back at all though i don't have enough time in game to say for certain but it's usually fairly consistent on when it won't let you fight back, due to the game's checkpoint system it can lock you in a bad spot on rare occasions though when paired with the save states that exact situation should be extremely rare though to be extra safe only create a save state while in a hallway when not being chased.

That usually happened when you're trapped, like if you climbed onto the barn in the garage but forgets to push the ladder down and he climbs up after you, you'll be trapped, or if you did push the ladder down but was standing too far to the left when he burst through the ceiling and is close enough to do the takedown animation before you can react. The other time is when you hide in the bathroom, and he breaks the door down.

Not sure if it was a glitch or anything, but in the original during a chase when you get close to a door to open it, there's a chance he'll suddenly appear off screen and shove the scissor through, even now I'm still wary when trying to leave a room and hope he doesn't show up at the door.