Why do many females only have 1 name?

[Xodan Rot]

Just wondering: Why do many females in the game only have 1 name instead of 2? For example Lianshi, Zhenji, Yueyjing, ...

But then there are also females with 2 names like Wang Yuanji, Guan Yinping, Zhang Chunhua, ...

Is there a logic behind that?

[Lie Chen Zhou]

Publicado originalmente por Scull:

Most of the characters are based on real persons like Masamune Date but most of the characters are just fictional.

Masamune Date is not even Chinese ..... and most of the character in Romance of Three Kingdoms are real, only some are fictional (like Diao Chan)

[Burusagi]

Publicado originalmente por Lie Chen Zhou:

Publicado originalmente por Scull:

Most of the characters are based on real persons like Masamune Date but most of the characters are just fictional.

Masamune Date is not even Chinese ..... and most of the character in Romance of Three Kingdoms are real, only some are fictional (like Diao Chan)

Their characterization is however a far stretch from their supposed real-life persona and quite fictional.

[Lie Chen Zhou]

Masamune Date ? well, I still shocked to read Yukimura Sanada is quite old not a handsome teenager.

[Kawalorn]

Publicado originalmente por Pax Augusta:

Publicado originalmente por Kawalorn:

I prefer Cow Cow, but that's probably because the proper version sounds stupid with how grammar and spelling in my language works.

Where are you from? If you don't mind me asking?

Regardless of what is actually grammatically correct, I actually did prefer the old pronunciation. It felt more intimidating to me.

Forgot to check here again, it's Poland.

And the new pronounciacion sounds stupid, cause that's how someone VERY uneducated would pronounce english words in my country. So there is some discomfort in hearing it.

[monsterfurby]

I somewhat agree with the earlier point that the game should really use the proper names for characters in a certain situation, but it would have to be done via really smart writing.

The newer Sanguo TV series illustrates quite well how Cao Cao is referred to by four names:
His zi, Mengde, by all of equal or higher status and amicable relations,
his title, e.g. General or Minister Cao, by all of lower rank,
his childhood name, A'man, by enemies (e.g. Dong Zhuo) who try to insult or talk down to or about him,
his family and given name, Cao Cao, by anyone else talking about him in the third person.

So yeah, names can be confusing, but they also allow you to immediately know how someone thinks about someone else.

Well, maybe we just need Chinese voices instead of Japanese ones. Even modern pronunciation works just fine in the TV series, so that whole discussion is a bit of a moot point.

PS: Regarding the actual topic, to add to the question: Since multisyllabic given names were illegal during the Han dynasty (except as zi/courtesy name), does anyone know if that also applied to women? Interestingly, there seem to be quite a few multi-character given names attributed to women of the time (Bu Lianshi, Lu Lingqi), but it seems that most of these are later inventions either by Koei or simply authors of later days.

[Clever Cloaks]

Publicado originalmente por monsterfurby:

I somewhat agree with the earlier point that the game should really use the proper names for characters in a certain situation, but it would have to be done via really smart writing.

The newer Sanguo TV series illustrates quite well how Cao Cao is referred to by four names:
His zi, Mengde, by all of equal or higher status and amicable relations,
his title, e.g. General or Minister Cao, by all of lower rank,
his childhood name, A'man, by enemies (e.g. Dong Zhuo) who try to insult or talk down to or about him,
his family and given name, Cao Cao, by anyone else talking about him in the third person.

So yeah, names can be confusing, but they also allow you to immediately know how someone thinks about someone else.

I second this.

Publicado originalmente por monsterfurby:

Well, maybe we just need Chinese voices instead of Japanese ones. Even modern pronunciation works just fine in the TV series, so that whole discussion is a bit of a moot point.

While ideal in practice, it isn't so much from a business perspective. Koei's primary target audience is the Japanese market. Factor in the costs of bringing in decent Chinese voice actors and script writers to work for them, and it just looks like a waste of money.

Publicado originalmente por monsterfurby:

PS: Regarding the actual topic, to add to the question: Since multisyllabic given names were illegal during the Han dynasty (except as zi/courtesy name), does anyone know if that also applied to women? Interestingly, there seem to be quite a few multi-character given names attributed to women of the time (Bu Lianshi, Lu Lingqi), but it seems that most of these are later inventions either by Koei or simply authors of later days.

Didn't know about it being illegal, but I guess that's why it's so uncommon, and why it's so easy to distinguish fictional characters from historical ones just by name. In the game, Bu Lianshi's one of the only two non-fictional female characters to have their given name recorded (at least, according to Xu Song's Jiankang Shilu). Either it didn't apply to women, or she changed her name like Lu Xun after the dynasty ended. That does beg the question why Luo Guanzhong would add characters with multiple syllables to the romance, though...

[Flock of These]

The more historicaly accurate names are fun to discuss, but I don't belive they have any place in Dynasty Warriors. Its a very campy game series that doesn't care about being true to the source material. Throwing in extra detail without doing a complete mood change is kind of pointless. These guys are using pool cues, and giant yo-yos as weapons for gosh sakes. The games just don't take themselves seriusly enough to benifit from more historical accuracy.

[Burusagi]

On the contrary, it stays quite faithful to the source material. Which of course is the fictional account of events rather than the historical.

[Flock of These]

Publicado originalmente por Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:

On the contrary, it stays quite faithful to the source material. Which of course is the fictional account of events rather than the historical.

Having read the source material, I have to disagree. Its all reletive though. There are plenty of Hollywood "Based On" movies that have almost nothing in common with the scource. DW at least follows the basic sequence of events. Or at least it does now that they added a new faction.

[Burusagi]

Well, as far as I've looked into it, the characters at least adopt their fictional persona as opposed to their (rather dull, really) historical persona. And that's really the only significant difference between the fictional and historical account AFAIK.

The wars, induvidual battles and events pretty much were the same in both sources.

[Flock of These]

They don't really adopt either persona for the most part. Some are close, like Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang for example. Most are either don't, or there isn't enough about their personality in the novel to use. A couple examples I can remember off the top of my head are Cao Cao and Zhan Fe. Cao Cao is an evil cowerd in the novel. Zhang Fe was an angry drunkerd who liked to beat his men. Zhang Fe was actually executed by his men after they got tired of taking it.

[Flock of These]

Another thing they got wrong is how the novel gives very high kill counts for the warriors. In the games I just seem to be knocking everybody out...

[Burusagi]

Doesn't Mai Da (the stupid oaf with the brush) betray/murder that awesome dragon-like guy with the speech impediment, too? I'm terrible with the names; I can only remember the ones of the characters I like playing...

They kinda paid homage to Zhang Fe with how one of his EX "attacks" is actually him taking a swing of alcohol, though lol.

[Flock of These]

I don't remember off the top of my head. There are 2000+ characters in the novel, and it moves at a very fast pace. Combine that with it being about 3 or 4 years since I read it, and there is no way I can recall that without looking it up. Im kind of a lazy bottoms though, so Im probably not going to do that. A lot of charcters do meet different ends than in the games though. Some of those glorious battle deaths were actually beheadings after being taken prisoner. Also, 100 years of time passes in the novel. Some people just die of old age.

[Lie Chen Zhou]

Publicado originalmente por Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:

Doesn't Mai Da (the stupid oaf with the brush) betray/murder that awesome dragon-like guy with the speech impediment, too? I'm terrible with the names; I can only remember the ones of the characters I like playing...

Ma Dai killed Wei Yan soon after Zhuge Liang's death AFAIK for suspecting Wei Yan going to betray Shu