Truth about 5 and 6 stars weapons - and gold weapons in general

[Grath]

For those who do not know (as I'm not sure if this is common knowledge or not) 5 and 6 star weapons serve no purpose except for getting them if you are collecting different kinds.

Yes, they do have a higher attack than 4 star weapons however no golden (unique) weapon can be used in blacksmith's forge. This makes them obsolete as 4 star weapons packed with the right skills (each with lvl 10) outperformes 5&6 star ones.

Kinda shame that I found out about this in a hard way.

Goodluck to you peeps.

[RX-0Banshee]

It's the same way in Warrior's Orochi 2, 3, and Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate. Hell, in MO2U, Big Star weapons and the Mystical Weapons are nothing compared to the ultra-rare 4-Star weapons you get from playing Unlimited Mode (which are called the "True" versions of the character's 4-Star weapon).

Regardless, after all the effort it takes to get them, I'm certainly using them many of them look pretty cool.

[Baines]

That's probably been true for any Warriors game that allows player weapon customization, and maybe mostly true for any Warriors game with good random weapon creation.

If unique weapons flat out beat what random or player-created weapons can be, then their existence undermines the whole Skinner box of playing to get weapons. You get your unique and you are done.

If random weapons can equal unique weapons, then odds are it is possible (even if extremely rare) to get something that beats the uniques. When you allow players to forge weapons, then you guarantee that players can and will achieve those superior forged designs.

Add to this the fact that unique weapons aren't created equal, and you can get cases where even if unique weapons "break" the design rules, randoms and forged items can still be superior. Koei tends to design unique weapons based on their idea of characters, which means "weaker" as well as more gimmicky characters can get some rather awful design, while characters like Lu Bu or Tadakatsu Honda get all the damage boosts.

[Grath]

Still it's kinda disappointing. I knew that 5 and 6 star weapons have unique skins and so i hoped to run around with them and have this sense of accomplishment you know? Shame it's been taken away like this.

Any idea if those "true" 4 star weapons appear in Dynasty Warriors 8 XE?

[Azzak]

I think it's quite balanced. I used these weapons to do story mode/ambition mode before upgrading the right weapons at the blacksmith. Btw they're quite easy to acquire usually, so making them the most efficient weapons would not be ok.

[rollinz3]

Yeah it's annoying once you know 5th and 6th cant be improved, but by using CE, you can mod it.

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Wait... you can't Temper Uniques? I guess I haven't tried that yet. Well that's a shame.

[ShyGuy]

Apparently the Playstation versions of the game were patched on May 2 to allow tempering of 5th and 6th weapons: www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7m/window/update-info/

Hopefully the patch will make it to the Windows version eventually

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I assume you're talking about this line?

Forgive me Google Translate: Extend the functionality so that in the discipline of arms, can be chosen as a target of training also unique weapon and treasured weapon.

Maybe I'll pop the question over at the KW forum.