Best racial bonus?

[Lee]

just objectively? I'm planning on a jack of all trades build. and please no coomer ♥♥♥♥. I'm not here for that.

[Lesserred]

There are no racial bonuses. you get a starting general skill associated with race but all of the racial skills can be learned through skill scrolls. It's purely cosmetic.

[ManiacOverlord.ttv]

Depends on your intended class and playstyle. Would argue that a heavy hitting warrior type would benefit from the 100% crit chance skill, casters want the instant cast, and ranged fighters want the increased movement speed. If you're gonna play a Tank then the autoparry would probably be best.

The only ones I could think really counts as reasonably generalist racial skills would be the increased move speed one and the aquatic race's spell, but I haven't used the lattermost yet so I can't say for certain.

[Amduskas]

Originally posted by Lesserred:

There are no racial bonuses. you get a starting general skill associated with race but all of the racial skills can be learned through skill scrolls. It's purely cosmetic.

If you're looking to be efficient, racial skill does matter.
You're always going to have some skills in your skillbook that you can't unlearn to make room; recovery, stone toss, your starting racial skill...
If your starting racial skill is one that you don't plan on ever using, it is a wasted slot. Maybe that matters to you, maybe it doesn't.
Worst case scenario though, it's just an inconvenience.

[SM5T001]

Originally posted by ManiacOverlord.ttv:

Depends on your intended class and playstyle. Would argue that a heavy hitting warrior type would benefit from the 100% crit chance skill, casters want the instant cast, and ranged fighters want the increased movement speed. If you're gonna play a Tank then the autoparry would probably be best.

Nope. One guaranteed crit in 45 seconds is almost useless for anybody, meanwhile heavy hitting fighter or melee bandit will GREATLY benefit from 8 seconds of invulnerability (Sturdy lvl 3) once per 40 seconds.

And Alacrity iirc has the same CD of 40 seconds. Imagine wasting a skill slot for one free cast of another skill per 40 seconds.

Originally posted by ManiacOverlord.ttv:

The only ones I could think really counts as reasonably generalist racial skills would be the increased move speed one and the aquatic race's spell, but I haven't used the lattermost yet so I can't say for certain.

Siphon Leech is a decent starting skill of you want to play as a mystic from the start, but it scales off mind, so it's absolutely useless if you'll be investing in str or dex instead. Definitely not a generalist skill.

TL;DR:
You got almost everything wrong.
Sturdy is top tier skill that will be extremely useful for a melee character throughout the whole game, Siphon Leech can be useful for an early mage build, Leg Up is meh but can make kiting a bit easier for an archer who's still learning the game, Inner Focus and Alacrity WOULD be not totally useless waste of a skill slot IF their cooldown was 5-10x lower, in the current state they are both garbage tier.

[Smug Kot]

Sturdy is extremely meme on figther, you must be nut if you think you need even more parry with the class with the most forgiving parry in game, when the base parry is already extremely forgiving. The knockback resistence is nice if you want to smash blindly.

You are adding redundancy over more redundancy. Meanwhile crit is something only bandit has the luxury to have in a consistent way, so no, Inner focus is not useless on figther.

[Intra]

? You want Sturdy especially on Fighter, because it allows you to turn your brain off every 40 seconds and unga bunga the mobs. Every character can afford to fit Sturdy in their six slots of skills. Probably pointless if you're maining a bow though.

So yeah, I'd say Chang for Sturdy which is useful for all characters, or Bydle which is mostly for PVP.

The only class I feel suffocated on skill slots on is probably my Mystic, who I would say you'd want Chang for most likely.

[Smug Kot]

Originally posted by Intra:

? You want Sturdy especially on Fighter, because it allows you to turn your brain off every 40 seconds and unga bunga the mobs. Every character can afford to fit Sturdy in their six slots of skills. Probably pointless if you're maining a bow though.

So yeah, I'd say Chang for Sturdy which is useful for all characters, or Bydle which is mostly for PVP.

The only class I feel suffocated on skill slots on is probably my Mystic, who I would say you'd want Chang for most likely.

honestly I feel most racial are not woth the slot anyway, and mystic being the only to have a reason to use a racial, Siphon leech, because scales extremely well with INT and heals, saving you a slot.

[SM5T001]

Originally posted by Smug Kot:

Sturdy is extremely meme on figther, you must be nut if you think you need even more parry with the class with the most forgiving parry in game, when the base parry is already extremely forgiving.

It doesn't matter how easy it is to parry for you, my point is that you can't attack or cast skills while parrying. You may be the literal god of parrying, it will still interrupt your attacks when you do it, severely reducing your DPS, UNLESS your character auto-parries everything with Sturdy. It works more like a full invulnerability than an auto-parry, that's why i called it "8 seconds of invulnerability".

[PugKonfuzio]

Would be nice if racial skills were nerfed as hell but passive and unlearnable

Alacrity: 2%, 4%, 8% chance of activating on every skill

Leg up: 1%, 2%, 3% movement speed increase

Inner focus: 1%, 2%, 3% phys and magical crit

Syphon leech: Every hit dealt has an HP absorb chace of 3%, 6%, 9%, Amount absorbed 2%, 4%, 6% of damage dealt rounded up

Sturdy: Every successful parry has a 4%, 6%, 8% chance of generating a shockwave, stunning all adjacent foes for 1, 2, 3 seconds

Just brainstorming ideas

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Lee:

just objectively? I'm planning on a jack of all trades build. and please no coomer ♥♥♥♥. I'm not here for that.

Personally? I'd say Sturdy, especially if you're planning to make a Fighter.

Fighters get a skill called Reflect, which passively reflects up to 120% melee damage back onto the attacker whenever you perform a successful parry.

Sturdy grants you a stamina free, auto-parry effect for the duration that it remains active.

The downside is that, unless you're playing a Chang, you have to rely on RNG to get the Sturdy scroll to drop. And I have yet to find a single one, no matter how many times I run Sacred Grove and Catacombs.

[Onryou236]

Honestly, for the most part, I'm gonna have to go with Sturdy or Leg Up being the best for a "jack of all trades" build. Would just say Sturdy hands down, but the changes to mob behavior+spacing has made it feel not as big of a deal for me to hard recommend.

Speaking of-

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Lee:

just objectively? I'm planning on a jack of all trades build. and please no coomer ♥♥♥♥. I'm not here for that.

Personally? I'd say Sturdy, especially if you're planning to make a Fighter.

Fighters get a skill called Reflect, which passively reflects up to 120% melee damage back onto the attacker whenever you perform a successful parry.

Sturdy grants you a stamina free, auto-parry effect for the duration that it remains active.

The downside is that, unless you're playing a Chang, you have to rely on RNG to get the Sturdy scroll to drop. And I have yet to find a single one, no matter how many times I run Sacred Grove and Catacombs.

I'm currently waiting on other things right now, but I've got a couple scrolls. Want one?

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Onryou236:

I'm currently waiting on other things right now, but I've got a couple scrolls. Want one?

Would appreciate it.

If I knew how to add in items to my save file properly, I'd do it myself. As it currently stands, I only now how to edit the numbers of stuff I already have.

[Onryou236]

Was gonna create a lobby, but the game wouldn't let me. Mod related, I assume.

Anyway, it's title 52's Space [SFW]

My character's name is Cheznuh, and I should have my nickname set, too. What should I be looking out for?

[NeloDante]

Racials IMO: Rat > Imp > Poon > Kobold > Bird.
Sturdy for melee is not needed at all, but if you are willing to put the points then it allows you to mash M1 like an idiot for max DPS without caring what they're throwing you offscreen.

Siphon is the BEST racial pre-Lv10 for ALL classes. It scales with int so you could consider it for a mage later, but then again, mystic class needs all the points so you won't be using it anyways. Still, being the best preLv10 is already worth considering.

Leg up is just bad, too long CD for too short duration. Only archers might consider it, but then again, they shouldn't have problems moving around to begin wtih.

Alacrity sounds good on paper, but then again as I mentioned earlier, mages are hurting for skill points the most and even if Alacrity was good (which it isn't), they would still not pick it due to the lack of skill SLOTS on the bar + since it's not good the CD is absurdly big for what it is. This racial is so bad that if you choose to save all Novice Scrolls, you'll notice that this one drops the most.

Inner Focus. Sounds good on paper for Heavy Weapon fighter to do his charged attack and stack it with Rage. It's the ONE niche combo to use it, problem is that the CD is so horrible that not even people with this niche build will use it.

[Onryou236]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Would appreciate it.

If I knew how to add in items to my save file properly, I'd do it myself. As it currently stands, I only now how to edit the numbers of stuff I already have.

Originally posted by Onryou236:

Was gonna create a lobby, but the game wouldn't let me. Mod related, I assume.

Anyway, it's title 52's Space [SFW]

My character's name is Cheznuh, and I should have my nickname set, too. What should I be looking out for?

My apologies for bumping the thread again over something not relevant to OP's question.

Perhaps it'll be better to meet up at a more convenient time for both of us, Majora. I'll send a fr, if you don't mind.