Are Vampires/Undead the Romanians in Warhammer Fantasy?

[Akfiz]

I'm not that familiar with the Warhammer Fantasy universe, but I've heard that a lot of its fantasy elements are copy-paste from real world and the names seem to confirm this.

The protagonists, the Empire, have German names and are basically the Hold Roman Empire.
The Bretons have French names and are the French.

And then I saw in Mordheim: City of the Damned that a lot of the undead have Romanian names: Silviu, Alexandru and my favourite Valeriu Surdu (Valeriu the Deaf One).

I don't have the DLC to see whether the undead in a vampire warband also have Romanian names, but their home city/faction is called Sylvania.... as in Transylvania?

[Reaver79]

GW are not known for being creative, generally if it is in their lore they found it somewhere else with a few exceptions.
So all odds would be for that being the case.

[Paranoia]

Indeed, Undead (Vampire Counts) are highly romanian-inspired. As opposed to Tomb Kings, who are, obviously, egyptian themed, but that is irrelevant for Mordheim.

[Reaver79]

Just a thought.. Where Tomb Kings even a thing when Mordheim was released ?(the TT i mean).

[Exocet]

Yes, the warhammer world is mostly inspired by real XVI-XVII centuries with a few exceptions.

The empire is indeed inspired by the holy roman empire, which is also the first human power as well.

Bytheway Bretonnia is french an english inspired, names are french but lore with green knight and ghosts is heavily great britons inspired (kind of represents France during the 100 years war era).

Estalia is inspired by Spain, Tilea by Italy, Kislev by Russia and eastern Europe countries, Arabia by moorish and turkish legends, Cathay by the empire of the middle (China), Ogre kingdoms kind of represent huns (Attila era) Nippon is inspired by Japan, Ind by India and lizardmen by aztecs.

[Le druide]

Yes and moreover, it gives a real strength to this universe. This is the basis of any good fantasy story: Taking a lot of familiar elements to include them in an imaginary universe. Like a kind of parallel world.

If you start with things completely unknown and imagined, there is a great chance that people will not like your universe. This is not going to speak to them.

And then, anyway, it is impossible to imagine a universe which does not take its source in what we know. It is ? ^^"

[Reaver79]

It is.. It is however rare we see people who pick their inspiration left and right try and sue people over useing "their" races.. You know like orcs, dwarfs and elves etc.

[Bloodscape]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Just a thought.. Where Tomb Kings even a thing when Mordheim was released ?(the TT i mean).

Lustria brought out the warbands from the new world (dark elves, amazons, lizardmen) to mordheim. They did a Khemri expansion as well.

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[Reaver79]

Was thinking in the terms of Warhammer in general, 4'th edition where simply undead, no Vampire counts or Khemri, or rather they where all in the same book and no egyptian theme for them apart from mummies really.

[Bloodscape]

Well, during the years that mordheim was supported Khemri became a thing. Usually that means that warhammer had it and they wanted to push for other games to sell it as well. I could be wrong though, I never spent money on warhammer.

[Reaver79]

Now i actually got off my lazy ass and looked it up.. Tomb kings was not in Warhammer till 4 years after Mordheim was released.

[Bloodscape]

Mordheim was supported for years though. I would not be surprised that Tomb Kings was released at the same time or close to the same time. I dont really think they used Mordheim as the testing ground for a new army. I could be wrong though.

[Reaver79]

Nah in no way, mordheim would in no way serve for that, tho could have explained some of their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ designs ;)

[Ancalagon]

Originally posted by Akfiz:

I'm not that familiar with the Warhammer Fantasy universe, but I've heard that a lot of its fantasy elements are copy-paste from real world and the names seem to confirm this.

The protagonists, the Empire, have German names and are basically the Hold Roman Empire.
The Bretons have French names and are the French.

And then I saw in Mordheim: City of the Damned that a lot of the undead have Romanian names: Silviu, Alexandru and my favourite Valeriu Surdu (Valeriu the Deaf One).

I don't have the DLC to see whether the undead in a vampire warband also have Romanian names, but their home city/faction is called Sylvania.... as in Transylvania?

Mordheim is taken from the board game with miniatures of the namesake title, although better known if I do not mistake with the name war dogs (a similar title).

basic/initial war bands

-sigmarite sisters
-chaos
-Bretons (mixed together with units of the Empire)
-dwarfs
-skaven
-counts vampire

subsequent factions implemented in the game

-green skin
-carnival of chaos
-witch hunters
-pirates
-forest elves
-dark Elves
-men Beast
-Amazon river
-lizard men
-King of the Tomb

I don't think there are any other gangs .... creed.


Unfortunately for the pc game they did , the war gangs are just.

-sigmarite sisters
-chaos
-Bretons (mixed together with units of the Empire)
-skaven
-counts vampire
-witch hunters

This is because , the whole project of the game of mordheim was abandoned to quickly open that of the PC Game of Necrumunda , also taken from a board game, but totally different from Mordheim.





The game is part of the fantasy universe of warhammer, which is inspired by the our world "tens of thousands of years after of our time" (40,000 years in the future instead for the setting/story in space, that with the space Marines) , blown away by the natural disasters and magic, the geography of the globe is totally different (there are land , while others have sunk or incorporated with other , and still others have been swallowed up, literally, in the land/dimension of chaos) .

Although some areas have maintained an apparent kind of "heritage" , both with regard to ethnicity ("slightly similar to that of the past"), and with the names of some locations that go to "recall" areas of the past with "high-sounding" names.

[Scipio]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Now i actually got off my lazy ass and looked it up.. Tomb kings was not in Warhammer till 4 years after Mordheim was released.

Kind of. The old Undead army had both "Romanian" vampires and "Egyptian" mummies mixed together, you could theme your army one way or the other (or mix it). Just before Mordheim came out, they split out the vampires as a separate faction (and abandoned the old mixed army). This is why the Mordheim list is vampire-focused. Then, some time after Mordheim, the mummies got their own faction as Tomb Kings (too late to be part of the general release, but they wouldn't really fit with the core of the setting anyway).