Mordheim: City of the Damned

Mordheim: City of the Damned

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NanShagger69 Dec 10, 2016 @ 11:59am
Darksouls or Brethren and Possesed or Marauder
Which ones are better for a melee focused build? I'm starting a chaos warband from rank 5.
Last edited by NanShagger69; Dec 10, 2016 @ 12:00pm
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Game kNight Plays Dec 10, 2016 @ 12:17pm 
Well, depends...

Darksouls are better melee skill and strength wise and they are immune to psycology, but they can't disengage or use any ranged weapons.

The Bretheren can and have a passive that increase their overwatch to hit, combine that with a melee focus and you have a decent melee warrior! Their weapon skill can be increased to 15 with books.

I have a series where I use such a Bretheren build:
https://youtu.be/ILclcwo-xOA

And as much as I really want to love the Possessed, I can't recommend using him. He is insanely squishy and his defensive capabilities are lkmited (due to low agi) where the Marauder can get decent agi or use light armor.

My marauder ended up getting a poem and I made a tribute video for him as well, that is how awesome they are!
https://youtu.be/n72jvraH5Zo

I got some different videos on the Marauder on my channel as well - but if you want an overview of the Cult, check this video out where I cover everything about the warband:

https://youtu.be/5H1yz2cKYaM

Hope you get a great Cult warband going and have fun with them!
NanShagger69 Dec 10, 2016 @ 12:23pm 
Thanks man!
PantLessKing Dec 10, 2016 @ 1:03pm 
and if you can get a marauder with two club mutations make him crit build. make his acc 15, and two purple armbands with master mark of havoc thats 44% crit. then with master vital strike adds 20% so thats 64% crit. then with master fatality which is 10% more on the second hitt which brings the second hitt too 74%. then if you add master underdog add 15% more crit if he is engaged with more than one enemy which brings his second hitt too 89% chance too crit. then to finish this build off give him master deep wounds which adds 20% more dmg when he crits.
Last edited by PantLessKing; Dec 10, 2016 @ 1:17pm
Castor Dec 10, 2016 @ 2:03pm 
Melee focus I would say Darksouls and Marauders. But keep an eye out for a well-mutated Possessed with a missing arm!
Pshy Dec 10, 2016 @ 2:23pm 
Speaking of missing arm possessed, If they mutate an arm that arm can actually grow back. so make sure hes level 7.

Though if hes well mutated having two arms isnt -that- bad
Last edited by Pshy; Dec 10, 2016 @ 2:23pm
Castor Dec 10, 2016 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by Pshy:
Speaking of missing arm possessed, If they mutate an arm that arm can actually grow back. so make sure hes level 7.

Though if hes well mutated having two arms isnt -that- bad

I've heard this but meant a level 7 Possessed and I should have been clear. I'm always looking for the lottery mutations!
Game kNight Plays Dec 10, 2016 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by Castor:
Originally posted by Pshy:
Speaking of missing arm possessed, If they mutate an arm that arm can actually grow back. so make sure hes level 7.

Though if hes well mutated having two arms isnt -that- bad

I've heard this but meant a level 7 Possessed and I should have been clear. I'm always looking for the lottery mutations!

480 hours and still hoping :P
It is litteratly the only way to make him viable, that and making him a leader.
Big Moustache Dec 10, 2016 @ 5:36pm 
You are supposed to keep posessed hidden and protect him like your ranged. He is good in finishing of damaged enemies and crowd control with morale checks. With attracting lure fight to the death no longer applies.
Reaver79 Dec 10, 2016 @ 6:31pm 
Possessed deals tons of damage once you get purple armbands and skills to do the job.. 3 attacks on frenzy/blood offering and you can tear most enemies apart. All depending on the mutations naturally..
kappahun Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:23am 
I went full darksoul, except one ranged brethren.

And darksouls can train attracting lure, which will negate most of their inability to disengage. It even works on zombies, which might be a bug.
Héḱmō Jan 4, 2017 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by PantLessKing:
and if you can get a marauder with two club mutations make him crit build. make his acc 15, and two purple armbands with master mark of havoc thats 44% crit. then with master vital strike adds 20% so thats 64% crit. then with master fatality which is 10% more on the second hitt which brings the second hitt too 74%. then if you add master underdog add 15% more crit if he is engaged with more than one enemy which brings his second hitt too 89% chance too crit. then to finish this build off give him master deep wounds which adds 20% more dmg when he crits.

yesterday i had a brutal mission where a norse with 2 arm mutations critted my vampire girl for 120 dmg
Greybush Jan 4, 2017 @ 4:59am 
Originally posted by Game kNight:
The Bretheren can and have a passive that increase their overwatch to hit, combine that with a melee focus and you have a decent melee warrior! Their weapon skill can be increased to 15 with books.

I have a series where I use such a Bretheren build:
https://youtu.be/ILclcwo-xOA

...wut? Not making much sense there.
Overwatch doesn't help with melee at all.
Also,Brethren can get a max of 13 WS with books.
Darksouls can get 15 with books.
You mixing them up?

The only advantage Brethren have in melee is being able to Disengage, but that's somewhat cancelled out by Darksouls being immune to Psychology.

And as much as I really want to love the Possessed, I can't recommend using him. He is insanely squishy and his defensive capabilities are lkmited (due to low agi) where the Marauder can get decent agi or use light armor.

Again, what?
Possessed can be really good. They're just not frontliners, so they require flanking.
And they can get 15 Agi while still having 9 Str and Toughness, so Agi is not a problem.
With ok mutations, they can be really devastating in melee.
Coupled with Fear, the option to give them 17 Toughness (which can push them nicely over 400 HP with Hardy and Constitution) means they can get pretty decent survivability.
They're also the only unit apart from Spawn that can get the Ripper and extra limb mutations, both of which are really good.
And to top it off, they start with 7 movement.
Their main drawbacks are the forced dualwield, low Int with no Helmet, and only Cloth armour.

Marauders do not have good Agi. They start with the same as Possessed, but only have a 10 max. And like Mutants, they are extremely susceptible to "bad" mutations screwing up their build, meaning you need to wait until they're rank 7 to give them most skills, or find a rank 7 with fitting mutations.
They also suffer from not being able to Flee/Disengage, but are still affected by Fear/Terror (Possessed are not), so you have to invest more in LD from an already low amount of Mental stat points, leaving them with either low Int or low Alertness.

Marauders make better tanks overall, but for pure dmg a Possessed is just a as good.

Simply put, Possessed are very underrated.
Last edited by Greybush; Jan 4, 2017 @ 5:02am
Kernest Jan 4, 2017 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by Greybush:
Simply put, Possessed are very underrated.

I've been saying that for a long while, but nobody listens...

And you're exactly right about the Possessed, great Agi, good mutations, immunity to all psychology instead of just AA.

Even their martial stats are comparable to the Marauder, with only 1 less max WS and 1 less sum of martial stats, whilst still getting 15 WS and 9 Acc.
Greybush Jan 4, 2017 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by Kernest:
Originally posted by Greybush:
Simply put, Possessed are very underrated.

I've been saying that for a long while, but nobody listens...

And you're exactly right about the Possessed, great Agi, good mutations, immunity to all psychology instead of just AA.

Even their martial stats are comparable to the Marauder, with only 1 less max WS and 1 less sum of martial stats, whilst still getting 15 WS and 9 Acc.

And also having equal Physical points, but higher starting and max Str and Toughness.
So you can go 16/15/3 for a powerhouse, or 7/12/15 for a Dodge build.
Marauder can not get 15 in any two stats without books.

Always been a fan of the Possessed. Just get tired of repeating myself.
Reaver79 Jan 4, 2017 @ 8:32am 
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