Skaven Weapons

[Talithmara]

TLDR version: Their unique stuff all counts as either paired (Tiring and 75% damage) or Firearms (3 OP per shot and a base reload of 3 instead of 1) with the exception of shuriken. I've never had a good quality shuriken and I don't know if they're even viable.

I've been trying to figure out if using the weeping blades, etc, is viable, or if they're better off with normal weapons. On the one hand, I want to make their unique stuff good (I mean, weeping poison DOES stack, and the best weeping blades do roughly 30 damage PER TICK, on top of the normal damage) but on the other, tiring is a really brutal effect and... yeeeeah.

Thoughts?


EDIT: Wow. I made a new rank 5 Skaven warband to do some testing without risking my main skaven warband, and the game gouged my eyes out with middle fingers right away. This is some bull. So I was resetting for awhile to try to get Purple Weeping Blades in the shop. Took me probably a solid half hour, but I did it. First match, I decide "They're poisoned, the poison will finish them off, I'll disengage and go after another target. Somehow the poison never activated, the person came up behind my character with the purple weeping blades, got the crit, got the stun, and took the 3 wyrdstone clusters they were holding, as well as the purple weeping blades. Then before I could get it back, someone ELSE died of poison and they failed their rout test. You know what, Mordheim? Screw you. That actually made me legitimately mad. I can't even frreaking test and crunch numbers without you being a royal jerk.

[Paranoia]

About Poison:
1: Poison Resistance is a thing.
2: Most Undead are Immune to Poison.

Poison is supposed to be used with Poison Expert Skill.

And your story was appreciated, it was amusing. :)

[Talithmara]

The undead are actually the big reason I stopped playing the Skaven as much, honestly; my old strategies revolved quite heavily around using verminkin with poisons and shuriken to spread debuffs across several enemies so my other units could fight more freely. Against undead, my entire Skaven strategy just fell apart, 100%. My team consisted of Adept/Runner/Sorcerer/LGTWarpguard/Globadier/Warpguard/Warpguard/Verminkin/Verminkin/Vverminkin, so I didn't exactly have good tools against poison resist outside of "unload all the warplock pistols and hope it's enough."

In this particular story, the character in question that didn't take Poison Damage was a Knight Templar. When I saw that they had failed their poison resistance roll on the weeping blade hits, I thought I had the kill in the bag. Unfortunately, it seems I forgot to account for other variables.

It's been so long that I can't remember for the life of me if they roll poison resist for every single instance of weeping poison on their turn or only on application, but that could have been what happened; someone else had two instances of it on them and only took one tick (They had somewhere around 9-15 HP and they had two instances of the lowest tier weeping poison on them, which does a minimum of 8 damage, and they survived long enough to take their turn.

[Alby]

Don't stop playing! Next time luck is on your sside!

[Mikey]

I think they test before taking the damage every time, though I could be wrong. I don't use poison much as I find it too unpredictable.