random daemon encounter?

[pdmackenzie]

I read somewhere official that there was the possibility, during routine jobs, that one might encounter daemons that are not oriented with the opposition, but instead add a random element to the proceedings.

Has anyone encountered this? 800+ hours and I have not....

[Your Mom's Oshi]

You not playing brutal/deadly missions much? I think there is about a 1/4 chance of something showing up. There is a very real chance you might not see it depending on your style though.

[wds_ncs]

I think the exact conditions are that it must be a Brutal or Deadly mission and at least one combatant is rank 6 or above (yours or the enemy's, which might happen if you've got a bunch of purple geared, fully skilled rank 5 guys deployed). As someone who's recently had three back to back daemon encounters with a fledgling warband, I can assure you they're in there.

[Your Mom's Oshi]

Daemons are very good for experience too.

Proof:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=901559662

[pdmackenzie]

ERC: wow!

[uddhava]

Deamon spawn chance is somewhere between 5 and 10 % i think

[Prince Kaine]

Originally posted by uddhava:

Deamon spawn chance is somewhere between 5 and 10 % i think

Again, 5% for each daemon, 25% total.

[kriscardiac]

Originally posted by Prince Kaine:

Originally posted by uddhava:

Deamon spawn chance is somewhere between 5 and 10 % i think

Again, 5% for each daemon, 25% total.

Is there 5 separate tests on there, or is it a test to under 25 then each 5-point spread relates to a different daemon do you know?

[Crowley]

Originally posted by kriscardiac:

Originally posted by Prince Kaine:

Again, 5% for each daemon, 25% total.

Is there 5 separate tests on there, or is it a test to under 25 then each 5-point spread relates to a different daemon do you know?

There is only one test. And according to the value one daemon or another one.
Example:
1-5 Daemon 1
6-10 Daemon 2
11-15 Daemon 3
16-20 Daemon 4
21-25 Daemon 5
>=26 No daemon.

The biggest prize is when you get an ambush event with daemon. So funny.

[Alby]

That makes sense, otherwise we would have reports of more than one daemon encounter per mission.

[Prince Kaine]

Originally posted by Alby:

That makes sense, otherwise we would have reports of more than one daemon encounter per mission.

except that development allows the use of exclusion lines such as if boolean daemon=true then no further test.
But yes, if I remember correctly what I discussed with Kes it is 1 test.

[wds_ncs]

Originally posted by Crowley:

The biggest prize is when you get an ambush event with daemon. So funny.

Lots of fun. Got ambushed by a bloodletter on a deadly mission. It started within sight of my entire (four man strong Skaven) warband. Fun, fun.

Really, though, bloodletters are the only ones that still occasionally wreck me (although I haven't seen a single plague bearer yet this game), not least because they seem to ignore the "go for the weakest target in range" behaviour most often, in my experience. Makes managing them a pain.

[Reaver79]

Would rank Plague bearers and Daemonettes as the 2 worst.. Bloodletter can do a lot of damage if your not quite at the point where you can take it down fast tho.. Horrors are just a joke..

[wds_ncs]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Would rank Plague bearers and Daemonettes as the 2 worst.. Bloodletter can do a lot of damage if your not quite at the point where you can take it down fast tho.. Horrors are just a joke..

Daemonettes can't seem to hit me for ♥♥♥♥ and I find them and chaos ogres the most predictable/manipulable in terms of AI. On the other hand, I appear not to have the hang of managing bloodletter AI. And my poor ratmen are hard to hit, but aren't the hardiest or hardest hitting, so even two rounds vs. a bloodletter is usually enough to net me one OoA. Might get better when I move from ranks ~6 to higher ones.

[Alby]

Plaguebearers are getting worse if there are more than one, like in that story mission. A single one is ok. Daemonettes can cost your warband much more health cause of the crits. Bloodletters are hardcore, idk you can have maxed dodge, they hit you nevertheless.

[tired798]

I have to say in my limited experience the worst demons (Not counting special named ones like the Alluress) are bloodletters and demonettes. I will attempt to make a case for each one and I have fought both in storyline (But only the demonette so far in Brutal difficulty non-story missions)
Bloodletter
Cleave means you take 180degree damage so it is easy to take damage on more than one character for one attack.
Rake applies a damage over time (DOT) effect that can hurt very much if left uncured.
Stun Resistant (This is the big one) The bloodletter is completely immune to stuns and as a result will never need to stun recover so far as I have seen.

Daemonette
Ripping claws similar to bloodletter but seem to land more frequently than rake, DOT damage
Hypnotic allure (Big) forces stupidity checks on your warriors which persist even if passed for 1-2 turns (It seems a lot like guidance in reverse actually)
Damage overall the demonette seems to do higher damage swing per swing but this is close
Crits Demonettes seem to crit very frequently and regardless if weather or not they stun the extra damage here hurts more than the bloodletter.
Mobility? I think demonettes may have more movement range so they can run fast enough to keep up with Skaven though I am uncertain of this.

Overall in my opinion the deamonette is slightly weaker because she can be stunned , but pound for pound I think 5 deamonettes would eek out a victory over 5 bloodletters assuming the bloodletters don't crit and stun. A lot would depend on the positioning of the units and rather or not the hypnotic allure of the demonettes forced bloodletters to miss a turn or not.

As I said it is very close to call. Good luck when dealing with any of these demons you may encounter as they are not fun (5xp on killing one might be nice, but it can also be a huge risk).