skin mods, dont get rid of em

[sbunge]

mods are one of the most fun things you can do in a game, banning em tends to effect games negatively more than positively, look at multiversus for example, 1 minute you could be venom balling, next minute dead game... what im saying is dont ban my thicc squirrel girl mods ples ty

[SavRoyale]

what?

[RhodosGuard]

The whole business model of F2P games is to sell skins. You let people mod skins, people are not going to buy skins, therefore, goodbye mods.

Is that easy enough to follow?

[Gamefreak]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

The whole business model of F2P games is to sell skins. You let people mod skins, people are not going to buy skins, therefore, goodbye mods.

Is that easy enough to follow?

Really? Because there are plenty of games where I bought skins while still modding the game. People aren't going to spend money on skins they don't want regardless of if mods exist.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Gamefreak:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

The whole business model of F2P games is to sell skins. You let people mod skins, people are not going to buy skins, therefore, goodbye mods.

Is that easy enough to follow?

Really? Because there are plenty of games where I bought skins while still modding the game. People aren't going to spend money on skins they don't want regardless of if mods exist.

Cool story, doesnt change the fact, that effectively, as long as modders are at least the smallest bit capable, they will out-do the actual designers of the game, both in design and in quantity.

You are at best an anecdote as to some people still buying skins, but the most likely outcome will be, that people will just download the modded skins, which will almost always be superior (due to factors not worth getting into here, just look at any modable game) and not give a damn.

It threatens their bottom line. It's irrelevant that some people will still buy skins, the point is, that people shouldnt have the option to not buy skins, if they want to look different. They want you to need to spend money.

Increase the profit margin and the whole shebang.

[Froog]

Originally posted by Gamefreak:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

The whole business model of F2P games is to sell skins. You let people mod skins, people are not going to buy skins, therefore, goodbye mods.

Is that easy enough to follow?

Really? Because there are plenty of games where I bought skins while still modding the game. People aren't going to spend money on skins they don't want regardless of if mods exist.

i doubt they are going to continue to allow them, seeing as they made a patch to stop people from disabling screenspace reflections, shadows and upscaling in ini files, to them it was an oversight caused by leaving in default ue5 behavior

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/configuration-files-in-unreal-engine

but your right lots of games sell skins and allow modding, i hope they leave it in

[Froog]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Originally posted by Gamefreak:

Really? Because there are plenty of games where I bought skins while still modding the game. People aren't going to spend money on skins they don't want regardless of if mods exist.

Cool story, doesnt change the fact, that effectively, as long as modders are at least the smallest bit capable, they will out-do the actual designers of the game, both in design and in quantity.

You are at best an anecdote as to some people still buying skins, but the most likely outcome will be, that people will just download the modded skins, which will almost always be superior (due to factors not worth getting into here, just look at any modable game) and not give a damn.

It threatens their bottom line. It's irrelevant that some people will still buy skins, the point is, that people shouldnt have the option to not buy skins, if they want to look different. They want you to need to spend money.

Increase the profit margin and the whole shebang.

true it's neatease of course they are going to remove it, but lots of games exist where you can mod skins in or whatever, but they still sell skins because other players can't see the skins you mod in... most people aren't trying to mod in existing skins they just want to mod in custom characters or whacky stuff, like with tf2

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Froog:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Cool story, doesnt change the fact, that effectively, as long as modders are at least the smallest bit capable, they will out-do the actual designers of the game, both in design and in quantity.

You are at best an anecdote as to some people still buying skins, but the most likely outcome will be, that people will just download the modded skins, which will almost always be superior (due to factors not worth getting into here, just look at any modable game) and not give a damn.

It threatens their bottom line. It's irrelevant that some people will still buy skins, the point is, that people shouldnt have the option to not buy skins, if they want to look different. They want you to need to spend money.

Increase the profit margin and the whole shebang.

true it's neatease of course they are going to remove it, but lots of games exist where you can mod skins in or whatever, but they still sell skins because other players can't see the skins you mod in... most people aren't trying to mod in existing skins they just want to mod in custom characters or whacky stuff, like with tf2

That's irrelevant. Maybe this would have flown under the radar like 5-10 years ago. I mean, it flew under Riots Radar for a long time, now, while not definitively prohibited, IF you get banned because of a skin, the ban will not be lifted, so it's a roll of the dice actuallly.

But now? Every live-service game exists entirely to milk the whales (which sounds weird) it exists, not because someone has passion for a project and wants to deliver a cool game. The game is a vehicle for skin sales. Diablo 4 is a vehicle for skin sales. It's not an interesting game. It's an MMO-igized amalgam of mobile and live-service games that exists to push you through hours of grind, that make you feel slightly better when you buy a skin, because at least a skin looks different for a bit of time.

They are profit-machines. They exist to pump out profit. The game can be as mid as it gets, as meh as is allowed, if it features Microtransactions, it will generate profit. Maybe it's even in their interest to play towards the least smart people, because they question the design flaws of the game less, but buy more stuff. And you only maximize this profit, if there is 0 alternative to get a similar effect. Mods achieve that. So it's extremely unlikely to remain posssible, or, if it does, it will probably enter the same area as LoL does. You can mod your game, but if any automatic mechanism ever decides to ban you because of it, you are out of luck.

[McScrandy]

beta post.

[id795078477]

First, not only that will never happen because of monetization concerns = it will also never happen because of level-playing field concerns. If you allow such client-side mods, you can imagine someone "modding" alpha on enemy models or transparency on walls or whatnot.

It's just a hard no.

[/dev/null]

Originally posted by id795078477:

you can imagine someone "modding" alpha on enemy models or transparency on walls or whatnot.

It's just a hard no.

Eh pretty sure it's trivial to apply a fragment shader to a wall that sets the alpha to 0xff, or you could do something more complex, how ever I'm not gonna pretend like there aren't any other malicious ways to mod the game, so how about only allowing mods in casual?