Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition

Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition

RoX Aug 31, 2014 @ 2:37am
If you are color blind - Buyer Beware!
So I get to the Desert Caliente level and I remember why the Gold edition ♥♥♥♥ed me off so much. This is when the color shielded enemies start appearing in the game and because I cannot figure out what color the shield is with all these different enemies on the screen I'm just getting wrecked left and right. Talk about frustration.

Regardless, I'm looking through the options to see if there is a color blind mode (a lot of games offer this now days but...) neither the Gold nor the STCE offer this option (unless I missed something). Even though Drinkbox is in "fix it" mode, I'm not sure if there is any chance in the future of getting an option to help the color blind.

So, color blind buyer beware!

R:eye:X

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Rabbidscool Aug 31, 2014 @ 5:01am 
Wait what?
Shadrach Aug 31, 2014 @ 5:32am 
Absolutely - this is such a common error for developers, and strange considering around 8% of all men have some level of red-green color blindness.

I have slight red-green and have a hard time separating the yellow and the green shields and I think most actually have. They could have remedied this by just using more saturated green and yellow instead of the washed-out colors they use now that's hard to distinguish.

Not sure how much color blindness the OP has but generally in game development it is considered a Very Bad Idea to use colors for important gameplay elements unless you also actually implement a color-blind mode. Unless you want to exclude about 10% of all customers that is...



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CarThief Aug 31, 2014 @ 8:53am 
I believe they actually added in a detail for the color-blind in Super Turbo Championship Edition, the shields now have an wave effect, which goes in a direction relevant to the attack you require in order to break the shield, a tad of a combat/movement spoiler here, but, it goes like this:

Red = upwards wave effect (use uppercut)
Green = downwards wave effect (use frog slam)
Yellow = no wave effect (use headbutt)
Blue = 2 waves coming from left and right which meet in the centre of the enemy's shield, so just look for waves going left/right (use dash punch)
White = no wave effect, but it looks different from Yellow due to having extra... edges? A sort of ripple, around their shield, though it doesnt move.

This may prove a tad troublesome regardless when you're in tough fight and you aint got time to think which shield is what type on the basis of an animation which takes time to identify, while colors are normally identified almost instantly. Though there is also another ability which you get fairly early-on, if you buy an upgrade for it, lets you break through any shield while it is active.
RoX Aug 31, 2014 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by Shadrach:
Not sure how much color blindness the OP has but generally in game development it is considered a Very Bad Idea to use colors for important gameplay elements unless you also actually implement a color-blind mode. Unless you want to exclude about 10% of all customers that is...
It's slowly getting worse... maybe I should stop stairing at the sun... :D:

Serious though, a half a lifetime ago I was diagnosed with red/green and purple/blue color blindedness and recently had to recruit friends to help me identify the colors.

Thanks for your reply, it brings up a lot of valid points!
R:eye:X
RoX Aug 31, 2014 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by CarThief:
Red = upwards wave effect (use uppercut)
Green = downwards wave effect (use frog slam)
Yellow = no wave effect (use headbutt)
Blue = 2 waves coming from left and right which meet in the centre of the enemy's shield, so just look for waves going left/right (use dash punch)
White = no wave effect, but it looks different from Yellow due to having extra... edges? A sort of ripple, around their shield, though it doesnt move.
This maybe a little tricky to identify when there are more enemies with different color shields on the screen but lemme see if this helps. Thanks!
R:eye:X
FluffySquirrel Dec 27, 2014 @ 4:42am 
Well I'm currently finding the X'tabay fight next to impossible once she starts using coloured shields.. .. the wave thing isn't helping, I struggle to tell the shields apart in all the motion and attacks
Phase Dec 28, 2014 @ 3:34pm 
This is a shame to hear. I've been looking into buying this game but I suffer from colourblindness too so might have to reconsider it. Wish more developers would take this problem into account! Thanks for sharing this information anyway TC.
RoX Dec 28, 2014 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by FluffySquirrel:
Well I'm currently finding the X'tabay fight next to impossible once she starts using coloured shields..

This is where I got stuck too with the Super Turbo Championship Edition. I beat the old version of this game but I did it with the help of a friend telling me the colors and I just cannot do this part on my own. Plus, I'd hate to break it to you but some bosses and parts just get harder from here.

Last boss by yourself... near impossible.

Originally posted by Phase:
This is a shame to hear. I've been looking into buying this game but I suffer from colourblindness too so might have to reconsider it. Wish more developers would take this problem into account! Thanks for sharing this information anyway TC.

No problem! I'm glad this helped someone because I've bought a numerous amount of games here on Steam that feel like I threw away my money because I was not aware it was a color based game. Regardless of my disability, it's a good game, otherwise just a shame that Drinkbox didn't consider the 5 million users on Steam with colorblindness... :togsad:

RoX
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