Titan trial challenges

[Teal]

Would it be possible to get a setting to automatically enable titan trials maybe? accidentally just entered a fight after miss clicking the enable trial slider and had to restart a 30 minutes run because of it

[.:("Primus"):.]

Yeah having to click a slider 3 separate times is annoying. Miss 1 of them and you will miss your chance to fight the Titans

[HouseOfTheRat]

As has been said multiple times, this is a mistake you only do once, so it isn't an issue at all. Besides, it would create the same problem (only much worse) for the vast majority of players who don't want to fight the titans. And for the rest of us, who do want this, there is a reason why the system is designed this way so you can opt out at any point.

That said, the whole thing could use a rework, there have already been some suggestions about this (unrelated to having to click to do things in the game).

[Teal]

Its a small thing for sure I was thinking a setting you have to opt into to have it automatically set to on would be nice quality of life. sure its no big deal but I didn't think It would be too time consuming or difficult to implement. but they can do what they want I still love the game.

[HouseOfTheRat]

It would be convenient to have all the challenges default to on, sure. No arguments there, after all it is how most people play after they clear C10. But that is not the same as protecting you in case you forget to toggle a titan challenge on. If you can forget to toggle a switch when the game asks you to, you can forget to toggle any switch, even more so if the game hasn't started yet. Having to do it just once at the start and not think about it again means that when you forget to toggle it, your entire run will have been ruined, and you would only realize that as a nasty surprise at the end of it. It would be much worse that way.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by HouseOfTheRat:

Having to do it just once at the start and not think about it again means that when you forget to toggle it, your entire run will have been ruined, and you would only realize that as a nasty surprise at the end of it. It would be much worse that way.

Why would it be something you have to toggle every run? I would think the best way to do this would be a setting in options somewhere to "toggle on titan trials by default" that you just set to yes once and then forget about it. I would also have this toggle make it slightly less easy to toggle off the titan trials as well - make it so you have to hold a button (like you do the undo button) to toggle off a titan trial in this case rather than just tapping it, so it's basically impossible to accidentally not take a titan trial (while still not totally disabling the option, just in case).

Could also implement the same thing for regular trials, although I feel like that'd get less use. For a lot of players the titan trials are literally auto-picks that if they aren't selected you may as well just restart the run, while other trials are at least somewhat more on a case-by-case basis. I wouldn't mind the option existing for regular trials as well, but personally I wouldn't turn it on.

[HouseOfTheRat]

Titan trials are optional, and they are designed to be opt-in. So that means that they must be off by default. Any way to toggle that setting should cater equally to players who want to do trials all the time, players who never want to do trials, and players who want to switch between the two settings freely. Remember that only a minority of players even fight the titans - let alone win against them, let alone at C10.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by HouseOfTheRat:

Titan trials are optional, and they are designed to be opt-in. So that means that they must be off by default. Any way to toggle that setting should cater equally to players who want to do trials all the time, players who never want to do trials, and players who want to switch between the two settings freely. Remember that only a minority of players even fight the titans - let alone win against them, let alone at C10.

And this idea of a toggle in the options menu is in line with all of these points. The titan trials would still be off by default, there would just be an extra option for the player to choose to toggle them on for future runs (which would itself be off by default). And even if the player opted into this toggle, they would still have the option to opt-out mid run by turning them off. Players who like the current system can keep it, players who want to default to fighting the titans every time have a slightly better user experience that doesn't lock them out of anything. Everyone wins.

I'd also be curious to see how many players, after beating the titans (and maybe doing a few runs playing around with the new pyres), then choose to regularly do runs where they don't fight them vs how many then start doing the titans every time. I'm sure there are some who do the former (especially if they're just farming card mastery or clan experience), but I definitely would expect a pretty decent percentage to do the latter as well.

[deadsanta]

Originally posted by HouseOfTheRat:

Titan trials are optional, and they are designed to be opt-in. So that means that they must be off by default. Any way to toggle that setting should cater equally to players who want to do trials all the time, players who never want to do trials, and players who want to switch between the two settings freely. Remember that only a minority of players even fight the titans - let alone win against them, let alone at C10.

Your vehement insistence on this position is weird. If it can be a single button toggle in options for a QOL upgrade, let it be a single button toggle in options... This is a total no-brainer ask, except to you. Let the devs weigh in on their own, you do not need to speak for them, or vet requests from the player base like you're Somebody.

[HouseOfTheRat]

Only one I speak for is myself, the rest is just you projecting. I am not insisting on anything either, I am just explaining to you why some things would or wouldn't work. As for implying that the devs have no brains and then begging them for something in the same sentence, that is just hilarious lol.

[Thera]

You sure talk a lot for something so simple to implement. Easy a setting which lets you activate Titan trials by default.

That said if anyone like myself has missclicked and launched the fight without trial, there is a way to still set the trial by modifying the save file. Close the game while being in the fight.

Go to : C:\Users\"user"\AppData\LocalLow\Shiny Shoe\MonsterTrain2\saves and edit :save-singlePlayer.json

you can use notepad++ with json pluggin to format the save file to make it readable.
Look for "runState": and the "nodes": list.
Now you have to count the fighst you already did and modify the current node's setting "titanTrialEnabled" which will be false to true. Launch the game and the resume the run and the fight starts again with the trial enabled.

[ShinySteve]

We've added an option to allow setting the Titan trials to default on. It will launch with the next update (no exact timeframe to announce).

[Purpleknight888]

Originally posted by ShinySteve:

We've added an option to allow setting the Titan trials to default on. It will launch with the next update (no exact timeframe to announce).

We applaud!

[Only Zuul]

Originally posted by ShinySteve:

We've added an option to allow setting the Titan trials to default on. It will launch with the next update (no exact timeframe to announce).

Good form. Cheers.

[Haaton-Garyuu-chama]

Originally posted by ShinySteve:

We've added an option to allow setting the Titan trials to default on. It will launch with the next update (no exact timeframe to announce).

Thank you very much!
Wish there be an option that lock the titan trial challenge enabled instead of just default on to avoid accidently toggle clicking.
Missing the common challenges just make the run harder/easier. But missing one titan trial is really frustrating.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Haaton-Garyuu-chama:

Originally posted by ShinySteve:

We've added an option to allow setting the Titan trials to default on. It will launch with the next update (no exact timeframe to announce).

Thank you very much!
Wish there be an option that lock the titan trial challenge enabled instead of just default on to avoid accidently toggle clicking.
Missing the common challenges just make the run harder/easier. But missing one titan trial is really frustrating.

Yeah, I’m hoping the auto-on-toggle also makes it harder to turn it off. I don’t know that I’d want the option completely deactivated, but make it something like the undo button where you have to hold it to change it. At this point I’m so used to turning on the titans trials that if the option literally is just “the toggle starts in the on position”, then I’m not sure I’ll use it just because I’d be afraid I’d turn it off out of habit.