Evolve Stage 2

Evolve Stage 2

Örlögin 24 AGO 2016 a las 10:37 p. m.
Player count still dwindling.
This is alarming me a bit. There are only 2500 people playing this as I speak. A week ago around this time there were 6000-7000 people playing.

Really hoping whatever is causing this loss of players is figured out soon. I like this game even though it has some severe problems. But a free to play game with this good quality losing players this fast....something is wrong here.
Última edición por Örlögin; 24 AGO 2016 a las 10:38 p. m.
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♂TheBlasterMaster™✞ 25 AGO 2016 a las 1:27 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
I won't bother bringing up the exact numbers, but you guys do realize that Evolve is actually in the top 100 played games on Steam, right? It's like 52nd or something. Those 4-5k players is really nothing to sneer at. Most games lose the majority of their player count in the month following release.

Maybe you didn't read my post above yours?
MemesAreGood 25 AGO 2016 a las 2:30 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Apocrypha:
This is alarming me a bit. There are only 2500 people playing this as I speak. A week ago around this time there were 6000-7000 people playing.

Really hoping whatever is causing this loss of players is figured out soon. I like this game even though it has some severe problems. But a free to play game with this good quality losing players this fast....something is wrong here.

Simple answer: SCHOOL HAS STARTED.
Publicado originalmente por Red Ocean:
Publicado originalmente por Apocrypha:
This is alarming me a bit. There are only 2500 people playing this as I speak. A week ago around this time there were 6000-7000 people playing.

Really hoping whatever is causing this loss of players is figured out soon. I like this game even though it has some severe problems. But a free to play game with this good quality losing players this fast....something is wrong here.

Simple answer: SCHOOL HAS STARTED.

this.
Deathwhitch 25 AGO 2016 a las 4:25 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Dark Messiah:
Publicado originalmente por DeathWhitch:


Split the community? Are you being serious right now lol

The "community" before stage 2 was damn near non existent. Even if the new community of players had 10k players and was split it would STILL be more alive than the pervious state the game was in. Seriously there was NO REASON whatsoever to remove content from the game while also trying to attract players. We live a world where gamers are sick of getting games (free or otherwise) that launch devoid of core features (Looking at you Street Fighter V)

It leaves a bad taste in the players mouth now a days and kills the community. So with the choices between split, or dead, I choose split!

Since when did having options in how you play a game become a bad thing? Last I checked the play the game the way you want model was working out pretty well. Minecraft is proof of this.

And true not all players stick around, no matter how much a game is, but my point was more would still playing the game right now than not if it had more options to keep things fresh. Yeah the old way was slow and boring (for some) but it would make a nice break from the one game mode stage 2 offers.

Sorry dude there is no way you are going to convince me that less = more here. The steamcharts speak for themselve as well as the many many players I asked why they stopped playing and they blame it on the one game mode becoming stale
Whenever some one uses "lol" I almost want to stop talking to them, but:
I am not trying to convince you of jack, but funny you say you spoke with players who left the game. just how many did you talk to? unless more than a 1000 your sample size is too small to mean anything.
What I know is this: The old way of handling the game did not work, that is the fact. People don`t really need insane variations in game play mode. Most game modes in games I used to play became a ghost town after a while anyway. Overwatch has only two game modes and you cant even choose which one to play and yet it works. I am not saying only one mode is the best, but bringing back the old mode will in no way help since it obviously did not work.
Dude grow up. Everyone uses lol

do you also stop watching a comedy show if the comic laughs at his joke for a bit. *in my John Oliver voice* Step off


now back on topic. Those 20 or so I questioned that where new to game, while small in number, care vastly different in play style and gaming habits. Thats how I know the data collected is good data (in science this is how an experiment works. A control group aka US and a group of changing factors to compare too aka THE 20 VASTLY DIFFERENT GAMERS)

Look movie critics makes up a SMALL number of people. and a fraction , a VERY VERY SMALL fraction of the entire auidence that would see any given movie. Normally they are help as opinions and taken with a grain, but on the super rare instance that all the stars align and all those critics agree 100% on a movie. Well they are usally right and we all usually agree with them. (Unless someone here actually liked Fan4stick lol)

The 20 or so I asked about the game are people I talk to everyday and they almost never agree on games. I mean like EVER, but this time they did, and I am agreeing with them.

Less does not equal more.

and I am oh so glad you not only brought up Overwatch, but made the mistake many do of confusing presentation with game modes.

Overwatch has many game modes. Control point, King of the hill, Pay load, Skirmish, Deathmatch, prettymuch everything from TF2 is there

You only see the game as having 2 modes though because of the way those mode are presented to you. You have only 2 options in how you choose and play them! The game them randomly picks both a map and a game mode for your play session. Pretty sneaky yeah

Evolve could do a similar thing, with the classic 45min long matches of "legacy" hunt being its own thing, evactuation being its own thing, and everything else (the not so time consuming modes) being the Overwatch style randomized everything list that is their matchmaking. So you could get a new Hunt mode game one que and an arena mode the next. while Not my fave way to handle it, it would keep all the content in the game and not split the community with the different modes. Hey it worked for overwatch

The point here is taking content out and giving players less options is not the answer. Sure you can defend that the old game "didn't work" so a change was needed. To which I would argue the exact same about this version

but one thing they have in common, that hurts both and needs to change to save the game. . . . LACK OF CONTENT!

Stage 1 lacked too much at launch to retain players, and Stage 2 is following suite. So where this idea that taking away gamers options in a game is a good idea is beyond me. Games with little content are almost always doomed to fail. So removing content from a game you wish to revive is like walking backwards up a stair case while blindfolded and covered in baby oil. Sure its possible, but its really really risky and prob not a good idea to try

Ok I've explained my opinion and thought as best I can on this point. Y'all have fun here. Call me when they add more contrent so I can play for longer than 30 mins at time. I'm out
Cha0zb0rn 25 AGO 2016 a las 4:55 p. m. 
Yep, it's the lack of variety paired with a game thats simply not as fun by design. This game is baiscly a hi gfx version of hide and seek and while this might be fun for a while it gets old quite fast.

Its basicly the opposite of a moba: In mobas you are forced to fight your opponents all the time and because of that its fast paced and challenging. In this game on the other hand you gotta try to avoid each other most of the time which is not that thrilling in the long run. At least for the majority of the ppl I guess.

There is simply too little reward in this game. if you catch a level 1 monster and kill it its not rewarding because its weak. If you beat a level 3 monster its more rewarding but since its a 4v1 it doesnt really feel as rewarding as well. And playing monster? its running away most of the time which doesnt feel satisfiing as well. Sure there are those moments where you kill an opponent team at stage 2 because they made mistakes and thats a good feeling but those moments are kinda rare. And as a monster even stage 3 doesnt feel all that strong. its harder to kill a team as a level 3 monster than it is to kill a level 1 monster as a hunter which kinda sucks as well.

It was even worse on Stage 2 but IMHO the arena was a step in the right direction, even thou it was unbalanced as f*ck and poorly executed.

To make this game intresting they'd need to add more depth while keeping it fast paced.

It would for instance be more fun if they removed the evolution at all and added strategic possibilities for hunters and monsters. More options to seperate a team and counterplay against the dome. More possibilites for the monster to be a threat from start to finish.
AS it is now as a monster you are then prey most of the game and once ur stron you pose a serious threat to the opponents and the game starts get really get fun for both, the hunters and the monster because you are hunter and prey at the same time and it really comes down to skill.

Ofc this wont happen but as it is the game is bound to be played by only few people. It sure aint that bad, I enjoy playing the game from time to time, but it's not enough to keep me involved or even intrested to play this game competitively. Also: Watchiing the game is even more boring than playing it. There is little action and its still a walking sim most of the time. Because of this the game will never be a mainstream competitive title such as the most mobas.
Última edición por Cha0zb0rn; 25 AGO 2016 a las 5:03 p. m.
Cawgnition 25 AGO 2016 a las 6:04 p. m. 
For this week the player count plummeted due to TRS and their poor planning. You cannot expect the concurrent to stay the same after last weekend's event. A 10x key weekend is a poorly thought out event and is hampering the playerbase. 2 days of 10x keys is basically 20 days of regular play and people who just spent 2 days getting 1000 keys every match aren't going to go straight back to 100 keys a match. TRS would be better off play x amount of games for a reward or something that is fixed instead of an event that breaks the currency accumulation.
The next step will be paying people to play it.
Cawgnition 25 AGO 2016 a las 6:39 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por An Inτellecτuαl Rαpisτ:
The next step will be paying people to play it.

The Chinese already farm gold and level chars, so why not move to farming keys or making maxed accounts. Imagine a site selling steam accounts with just a fully unlocked Evolve account. 10-30 dollars for a hassle free Evolve account. lol
Joe Average 26 AGO 2016 a las 12:19 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por TheMasterBlaster™:
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
I won't bother bringing up the exact numbers, but you guys do realize that Evolve is actually in the top 100 played games on Steam, right? It's like 52nd or something. Those 4-5k players is really nothing to sneer at. Most games lose the majority of their player count in the month following release.

Maybe you didn't read my post above yours?
Oops. I thought your post was on another discussion. My bad.
Anyway, no one is listening to what we're saying.
♂TheBlasterMaster™✞ 26 AGO 2016 a las 5:24 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
Publicado originalmente por TheMasterBlaster™:

Maybe you didn't read my post above yours?
Oops. I thought your post was on another discussion. My bad.
Anyway, no one is listening to what we're saying.
Because some have an agenda and ignore facts.
DCello 26 AGO 2016 a las 8:33 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Baklavah:
Though I do like the idea of deepest dark as a co-op vs ai storymode setting. That's kinda neat. In fact I would like to see a co-op vs ai actual STORY MODE which explains things and gives us the reasons the monsters exist! I mean they've hinted at it through character dialogue, but it's all vague and makes barely any sense! And I mean... storymode could have actual objectives... like "rescue Jack to recruit him". Give us the starting party of Val, Maggie, Hank and Markov and have Cabot explain wtf is going on and why he needs them to get their boots on the ground!

Make us WANT to play Co-Op vs AI, instead of tacking on a counter that says "play 100k matches on this map to unlock rewards for next week". I mean, come on TRS. You're being lazy. You had ambitions and goals. These map variants suck, and everyone despises them.

This. This so much.
Joe Average 26 AGO 2016 a las 8:46 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por TheMasterBlaster™:
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
Oops. I thought your post was on another discussion. My bad.
Anyway, no one is listening to what we're saying.
Because some have an agenda and ignore facts.
*everyone
♂TheBlasterMaster™✞ 26 AGO 2016 a las 9:00 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
Publicado originalmente por TheMasterBlaster™:
Because some have an agenda and ignore facts.
*everyone
I provided the hard facts about player counts. There was no opinion about it.
Publicado originalmente por Apocrypha:
This is alarming me a bit. There are only 2500 people playing this as I speak. A week ago around this time there were 6000-7000 people playing.

Really hoping whatever is causing this loss of players is figured out soon. I like this game even though it has some severe problems. But a free to play game with this good quality losing players this fast....something is wrong here.
well, it might just be me, but since the major update I have been having this error "CryEngine DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG" and because of which whenever I start the match My game just freezes and crashes. then, I can't do anything but restart my computer. Yes, even Task manager fails to open up.
Joe Average 26 AGO 2016 a las 10:54 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por TheMasterBlaster™:
Publicado originalmente por BloodWolf:
*everyone
I provided the hard facts about player counts. There was no opinion about it.
Hey man, I'm not accusing you of anything.
Just making a comment about general debating.
Also I'm really frustrated that no one else is talking about the numbers, just "hurr durr a month ago there were 20k(or whatever) people playing, now it's 4k, RIP Evolve Stage 2 lol"
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