ENDER MAGNOLIA: Bloom in the Mist

ENDER MAGNOLIA: Bloom in the Mist

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Can't you release it earlier, the holiday has arrived, and it will collide with FF7 Rebirth on January 23rd.
This post is meant for developers to see, even if it's one day in advance, it's still better than nothing(How many bugs can be solved and how much can be optimized in 2 weeks?). Yet, there are truly foolish people who respond in this way: that is not a problem for one person can play two games at the same time, or they are not busy enough to wait their turn to play....... Is this the main point?
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Mr.I Jan 10 @ 2:33am 
I was about to say the same thing. I hope I can finish this game before WW3 breaks out.
Hooman Jan 11 @ 5:07am 
"I don't know how to play 2 games interchangeably so please change the release date for me."
Originally posted by Hooman:
"I don't know how to play 2 games interchangeably so please change the release date for me."
I don't disagree (since I can do that myself perfectly fine), but I don't think that was the point OP was trying to make.

Coinciding the release date with a massive title can be detrimental for sales. It probably won't have a big impact since this is an indie title, but it's still bound to have some impact since people have limited time and can't play two games at the exact same time.

No matter how big a studio is, devs should always avoid other AAA release dates when releasing something. Even more so if a massive franchise is releasing a new title at the date you chose.

It's probably not financial suicide for this studio, but why risk it in the first place?
Originally posted by Mr. September:
Originally posted by Hooman:
"I don't know how to play 2 games interchangeably so please change the release date for me."
I don't disagree (since I can do that myself perfectly fine), but I don't think that was the point OP was trying to make.

Coinciding the release date with a massive title can be detrimental for sales. It probably won't have a big impact since this is an indie title, but it's still bound to have some impact since people have limited time and can't play two games at the exact same time.

No matter how big a studio is, devs should always avoid other AAA release dates when releasing something. Even more so if a massive franchise is releasing a new title at the date you chose.

It's probably not financial suicide for this studio, but why risk it in the first place?

I struggle to believe the overlap between the two games' fanbases are anywhere near a circle.

And regardless, this is an underground indie gem. It was never going to make a big splash no matter what. It instead quietly becomes one of the best games ever on steam, just like OMORI, Nine Souls, etc, and maybe gets retrofitted into being a hidden gem, but remains something only genuine gamers ever find let alone bother playing.

Everyone else drools and only buys whatever is on the social media FOMO buzz or tops the Steam charts.

You know, the overwatch and cod players who only break from their mindless addiction to blue the one or two blockbuster hits exactly like Rebirth before never finishing it and just going back to siege or league or whatever.
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
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I agree with you, and you have great points. However, I still think it's an unnecessary risk to release an indie title on the same day as a massive AAA title. Sure, it won't make a huge difference due to the current landscape, but it will probably still make SOME difference.

It's not about breaking records or selling millions upon millions of copies at launch. I'm sure neither of us are holding our breaths here about either of those things when talking about this game. It's about maximizing the chance to gain momentum and spreading the word of mouth. The latter is absolutely golden for any title; even more so for indie ones. When everyone is talking about the new release of a massive franchise, who the hell will even hear about this game?

I want this game (and by extension, the studio) to succeed, especially since I really liked the first game. That's why I believe they should take every chance they can get to gain traction.
Raui Jan 12 @ 2:10pm 
Regardless, it's unlikely that they'll release it earlier. It'd be surprising if they did. The best time for an early release is arguably already behind us. And the second best time would be right now.
Originally posted by Mr. September:
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The game already succeeded. It has a ton of overwhelmingly positive reviews for a barebones (standard for these devs) EA. People love what they saw and want more.

I really don't know what you want. Releasing now wouldn't change anything, people would still be thinking of and talking about bigger games, even if it's not the exact release date of it, like Rivals right now.

And like I said, the overlap is super tiny here. Someone who wants a high fidelity cinematic relatively easy action RPG with voice acting isn't likely to ever play ENDER MAGNOLIA.

This topic has always been silly. Players also play multiple games or move to other games once they're finish with one. It's not going to be the end of the world. I'd understand it if you were trying to show off numbers to shareholders or something dumb, but those are problems of the AAA world, not indies.

There are countless examples of games earning overwhelming success over lifetime sales, it's actually the most common way games succeed. And there is no time period they can release where they won't be competing with SOMETHING.

Rivals right now, Rebirth at the end of the month, Wilds next month, etc, etc. There are already a lot of people interested in playing this game based on the EA review count. They have zero reason to care about rebirth.

I don't even think Rebirth is going to be as popular as you think. It's a sequel, and the first game didn't sell all that well on Steam apparently. But that's kind of what you get when you wait 1-2 years to port it and then charge full price for it. Anyone who really wanted to play it already did or they watched a stream of it.
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Sekhriat Jan 13 @ 1:09pm 
The first game sold over one and a half million copies and has almost 35k reviews in 4 years. This one isn't even out and is already over 4k at 98% positive. Pretty sure they'll be doing alright.
Azyle Jan 13 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Mr.I:
I was about to say the same thing. I hope I can finish this game before WW3 breaks out.
What a silly thing to say.
PaWn Jan 13 @ 11:03pm 
i just want them to deliver a finished product so let THEM COOK
waiting until 23rd is nothing
Originally posted by Azyle:
Originally posted by Mr.I:
I was about to say the same thing. I hope I can finish this game before WW3 breaks out.
What a silly thing to say.

Not really. Technically speaking, WW3 has already started. It's just being fought in unconventional ways, as all modern wars will be. This is why major powers, namely, China, Russia, and the USA, are so fanatic about tech.

Modern warfare involves a core of cyberwarfare coupled with highly advanced drone capabilities for surveillance and economic or sociopolitical attack vectors, and AI is a huge advantage in all of that. That's again why the US suddenly cares about losing tech to foreign powers and giving them easy ways to influence the US population's shared mindspace. Look at how easily TikTok convinced millions to migrate to the far worse Chinese version of TikTok, and these people are now posting guides for other people, all with smiles on their face.

Not trying to say America is some kind of goldenboy, because that itself is a joke, but in degrees of lesser evils China is pretty much at the bottom of choices.

Off topic but yeah. It amuses me when people say stuff like this because the first two world wars begun much more tamely than the political climate of today as did things like the war that birthed America in the first place.
Terron Jan 14 @ 1:16pm 
I just really really hope they fix the map. I loved ender Lillies but I hear Ender Magnolia spoils all the items and even hidden walls and stuff on the map. That would be a disaster if there is no way to turn it off. Maybe even just have it off on hard mode or something. Awful decision if having all that spoiled is mandatory.
Hooman Jan 16 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Originally posted by Azyle:
What a silly thing to say.

Not really. Technically speaking, WW3 has already started. It's just being fought in unconventional ways, as all modern wars will be. This is why major powers, namely, China, Russia, and the USA, are so fanatic about tech.

Modern warfare involves a core of cyberwarfare coupled with highly advanced drone capabilities for surveillance and economic or sociopolitical attack vectors, and AI is a huge advantage in all of that. That's again why the US suddenly cares about losing tech to foreign powers and giving them easy ways to influence the US population's shared mindspace. Look at how easily TikTok convinced millions to migrate to the far worse Chinese version of TikTok, and these people are now posting guides for other people, all with smiles on their face.

Not trying to say America is some kind of goldenboy, because that itself is a joke, but in degrees of lesser evils China is pretty much at the bottom of choices.

Off topic but yeah. It amuses me when people say stuff like this because the first two world wars begun much more tamely than the political climate of today as did things like the war that birthed America in the first place.
I love politic slop in my magnolia discussion.
Originally posted by Hooman:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:

Not really. Technically speaking, WW3 has already started. It's just being fought in unconventional ways, as all modern wars will be. This is why major powers, namely, China, Russia, and the USA, are so fanatic about tech.

Modern warfare involves a core of cyberwarfare coupled with highly advanced drone capabilities for surveillance and economic or sociopolitical attack vectors, and AI is a huge advantage in all of that. That's again why the US suddenly cares about losing tech to foreign powers and giving them easy ways to influence the US population's shared mindspace. Look at how easily TikTok convinced millions to migrate to the far worse Chinese version of TikTok, and these people are now posting guides for other people, all with smiles on their face.

Not trying to say America is some kind of goldenboy, because that itself is a joke, but in degrees of lesser evils China is pretty much at the bottom of choices.

Off topic but yeah. It amuses me when people say stuff like this because the first two world wars begun much more tamely than the political climate of today as did things like the war that birthed America in the first place.
I love politic slop in my magnolia discussion.

Well, there's nothing magnolia to talk about. You can always just block me, would have save both of us a headache.
>and it will collide with FF7 Rebirth on January 23rd.

I'm often baffled by posts like this. So you can only play both games in the month of January. Does you PC melt as soon as February comes around? You can't just play one and then play the other? How busy is your schedule when you can't play a game a month after it comes out?

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>Not really. Technically speaking, WW3 has already started.

I love when people mention "World War 3" and then mention two or three countries while ignoring that "world wars" mean a ton of countries are involved and not just a couple. WWI and WWII had tons of countries involved and involved fighting on multiple continents across the world.

I understand that people love referencing WWIII since it's a lazy buzzword that gets attention but it makes them all look completely clueless as to the concept behind "world war."

>this is why major powers, namely, China, Russia, and the USA, are so fanatic about tech.

And this applies to basically every industry and business. Economics is not war.

>a core of cyberwarfare coupled with highly advanced drone capabilities for

Quite a lot of important-sounding words in this sentence to simply describe "A lot more war will involve drones now." Well, no s***, Sherlock.

> or sociopolitical attack vectors,

Are you f***ing kidding me? This guy's using "vectors" in casual conversation and trying not to look like he's full of s***?

>That's again why the US suddenly cares about losing tech to foreign powers

We've cared about these things since the bloody 1900s and before. Give me a break.

>Look at how easily TikTok convinced millions to migrate to the far worse Chinese version of TikTok,

TikTok fooling a bunch of teenagers to give China their useless personal information does not mean they're ahead of us in your Magical Tech War. Are you predicting that China will embarrass our future world leaders by showing rap videos they did on TikTok as a kid?

>Not trying to say America is some kind of goldenboy, because that itself is a joke, but in degrees of lesser evils China is pretty much at the bottom of choices.

China is harmless and is a Boogieman used by media and politicians to sell the US on the idea that we have to be afraid of some other country. It's used to push overbearing policy and to scare voters to supporting one agenda or another. They used to use Soviets and Communism and Terrorism as boogiemen but we've been so stable for so many years that they now have to manufacture "evil countries" that we should be afraid of like China, Russia, and North Korea. You're just falling for the usual nonsense. China and Russia do billions of dollars of business with American companies every day...the idea that they're going to jeopardize all that for some half-assed takeover is a joke. They'd be chopping off their own leg.

>Off topic but yeah. It amuses me when people say stuff like this because the first two world wars begun much more tamely

What the flying f*** are you talking about? Those wars starting with invasions with the conflicts building for years and decades before they finally blew up. How is your made-up Magical Tech War somehow less tame than that?

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>I love politic slop in my magnolia discussion.

Especially when it's so easy to argue against. This guy is like easy mode.

Though, if it's a Magnolia discussion, shouldn't we be asking "What's with the frog rain?"
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