Any chance they will make an actual sequel to planescape torment?

[sokka87]

got excited when i was on tyranny discussion board and saw someone mention torment, then i came here and saw this...not going to beta this game, it doesnt seem worth it, but i'll prolly still buy it. Anyway, any chance they will make an ACTUAL sequel for the original game?

[rn_archl0rd]

They don't have the rights to the Planescape Torment game and the company that does has no interest.

[Alexa Reizla]

Originally posted by rn_archl0rd:

They don't have the rights to the Planescape Torment game and the company that does has no interest.

Kinda this indeed :( Luckily, Monthe Cook is working on this game, and knowing hos work on Torment (and the whole Planescape setting), the complete Tides of Numenera will most likely rock!

[sokka87]

well thats disapointing but not surprising. thanks

[LrdDimwit]

Note, however, that Interplay has put up literally everything for auction. (Or I guess did, since the auction apparently closed in late September; nothing further's been announced, and I have no idea what that means.)

So it might be more possible to get that IP than it was before. Or less. Who knows?

[DnD Detective]

Originally posted by LrdDimwit:

Note, however, that Interplay has put up literally everything for auction. (Or I guess did, since the auction apparently closed in late September; nothing further's been announced, and I have no idea what that means.)

So it might be more possible to get that IP than it was before. Or less. Who knows?

Interplay doesn't have the rights to planescape. WoTC does.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by kamster99:

Originally posted by LrdDimwit:

Note, however, that Interplay has put up literally everything for auction. (Or I guess did, since the auction apparently closed in late September; nothing further's been announced, and I have no idea what that means.)

So it might be more possible to get that IP than it was before. Or less. Who knows?

Interplay doesn't have the rights to planescape. WoTC does.

And WotC have no interest in licensing it out. Hell; I don't think they're using it at all. Or if they are, then it's the bare minimum they need to do to retain the rights.

[sokka87]

its funny, the rights to this game arelike if your elderly neighbor had a jet ski in his garage. hes not using it, doesnt ever plan on using it, and yet he wont let anyone else use it cause its his. He wont sell it either so here there is, a perfectly good jet ski, and no one gets to use it and it just sits there, gathering dust in his garage.

[Tawm]

I don't think they could come up with another story as compelling as Planescape: Torment - even in the same universe. TNO's journey came to an end, and there's really not much more to tell. Even in his complete and omnipotent state, there's nothing he can do in the Blood Wars other than to accept his eternal punishment. Wouldn't make for much of a game, unless you want another shallow Tyranny military campaign.

Monte Cook and Colin McComb wrote and fleshed out a substantial amount of the Planescape DND campaign setting, and the latter also wrote PS:T along with Chris Avellone. If I'm not mistaken, McComb is back as lead writer for Numenera, and the setting itself was created by Cook. This is as close as we're going to get to another PS:T, and a direct sequel wouldn't have made sense anyhow.

[LrdDimwit]

Originally posted by kamster99:

Originally posted by LrdDimwit:

Note, however, that Interplay has put up literally everything for auction. (Or I guess did, since the auction apparently closed in late September; nothing further's been announced, and I have no idea what that means.)

So it might be more possible to get that IP than it was before. Or less. Who knows?

Interplay doesn't have the rights to planescape. WoTC does.

Interplay does (or did, before the auction, if anyone bought it) have rights to Planescape: Torment. They can't do much with those rights, because the owner of the IP on which it is based - Wizards of the Coast - would also need to agree. WotC does indeed own Planescape, and there are many elements of Planescape used in the story of Torment. But WotC does not, unless Interplay's contract is terrible, own Torment; just the elements of Torment that are based in the IP that was licensed to them.

Hard to say whether the problem is WotC or Interplay. I tend to think WotC would probably be fine as long as they got paid and the words 'Dungeons and Dragons" did not appear anywhere in the marketing / game. But that's just my opinion based largely on stuff I pulled outta my behind, I don't actually know.

[sokka87]

Originally posted by Tawm:

I don't think they could come up with another story as compelling as Planescape: Torment - even in the same universe. TNO's journey came to an end, and there's really not much more to tell. Even in his complete and omnipotent state, there's nothing he can do in the Blood Wars other than to accept his eternal punishment. Wouldn't make for much of a game, unless you want another shallow Tyranny military campaign.

Monte Cook and Colin McComb wrote and fleshed out a substantial amount of the Planescape DND campaign setting, and the latter also wrote PS:T along with Chris Avellone. If I'm not mistaken, McComb is back as lead writer for Numenera, and the setting itself was created by Cook. This is as close as we're going to get to another PS:T, and a direct sequel wouldn't have made sense anyhow.

I disagree. you dont need the sequel to follow TNO, maybe being someone following the aftermath of the carnage he caused. In every game, a few things are constant.

1) He had previous incarnations that royally ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people.
2) He was the last known person to see pharod alive
3) He is possibly the strongest mortal (now) creature in existence.

there are any number of ways to create a sequel to the game, even if you want to do it AS TNO. He could very well be in the infancy of becoming a god with all the sum power at his disposal, and his journey through hell could be him defining what sort of god he becomes. Im sorry, but a good writer can make a damn good sequel, but i understand that a matter of ownership is involved here so we prolly wont get another one

[rn_archl0rd]

Or you can hope for a prequel showing all the events that led up to his becoming the tormented immortal.

[LrdDimwit]

Originally posted by rn_archl0rd:

Or you can hope for a prequel showing all the events that led up to his becoming the tormented immortal.

That will never happen. First, it wouldn't be as interesting as PS:T itself. Second, the creators have gone on record saying that was one of the things they deliberately left open to interpretation specifically so people could come to their own interpretations.

[Crusader]

They have said that if they make a third game in the Torment series they will do it the same way with a new setting in a new world.
They have the right to Torment (since they created that) but not to the Planescape setting. To me, a indirect sequel made by the same people that made the original is more important than the setting but maybe that's just me.

Some people keep saying it's just a homage but officially both games are part of the Torment series.