Sorry but, why call it Torment?

[babasheep]

It's not set in the Planescape universe and doesn't continue the story of any of the characters from Planescape: Torment. So why throw the word in the title? Is it meant to be an eye catcher so the game will sell more copies to people with nostalgia? Just seems kind of insincere. Take out Torment, call it Tides of Numenera instead.

[rn_archl0rd]

It is based on the tabletop game Torment: Tides of Numenera.

[babasheep]

Originally posted by rn_archl0rd:

It is based on the tabletop game Torment: Tides of Numenera.

Then I ask the same question for that game.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

The tabletop game's just called Numenera, it's only this video game that has Torment in the name.

The intent is that it's a spiritual successor, having the same feel and similar themes as Planescape Torment but otherwise being unconnected.

It's the same way Bioshock was intended to be a spiritual sequel to System Shock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_successor

[Etagloc]

Originally posted by rn_archl0rd:

It is based on the tabletop game Torment: Tides of Numenera.

The tabletop is not called Torment.. only Numenera

The first game Planescape torment, you played as what I would call a tormented soul. tormented/haunted by his past lives.

In this?, hmm.. maybe the name just stuck?.
But you still play as a castoff... a husk of sorts that another "person" left behind, that then formed its own consciousness.

sounds pretty tormenting to me. :)

[burningmime]

To sucker fans of Planescape: Torment into buying it

[rn_archl0rd]

Originally posted by rn_archl0rd:

It is based on the tabletop game Torment: Tides of Numenera.

OOPS! My bad. The castoff's torment besides not knowing who s/he is is the murderous Sorrow and reliving all the previous lives in flashes and not having any history of growing up or other things normal humans do. Knowing that you are the product of someone who thinks only of himself and is, let's say, less than loved by others in his past can be a torment in itself.

[Legion]

Both games are conceptually concerned with a similar question. Planescape: What can change the nature of a man? Tides: What does one life matter? To help fashion the answer, the player in both games occupies a main character who has had a variety of past lives, some of which the player will have to answer for throughout the game.

[Darknoble]

@burningmime ... And that pretty much sums up this forum link.
Sounds right to me

[Ralgha nar Hhallas]

Originally posted by RosaCat:

It's not set in the Planescape universe and doesn't continue the story of any of the characters from Planescape: Torment. So why throw the word in the title? Is it meant to be an eye catcher so the game will sell more copies to people with nostalgia? Just seems kind of insincere. Take out Torment, call it Tides of Numenera instead.

Sells more boxes/digital copies this way. Also make sure to call it a spiritual successor to Planescape and you are golden.

[venusinfurs2000]

It's a shame. It has nothing to do with Torment, even losing the combat system. Wasteland and Bards Tale tend to live up to their legacy, this really just seems to be a cash grab. Bit of luck this will be the only so called Torment game and Inxile can concentrate on games that work to their strengths.

[lordorwell]

Originally posted by venusinfurs2000:

It's a shame. It has nothing to do with Torment, even losing the combat system. Wasteland and Bards Tale tend to live up to their legacy, this really just seems to be a cash grab. Bit of luck this will be the only so called Torment game and Inxile can concentrate on games that work to their strengths.

I can't disagree more. I've played all three ORIGINAL bard's tale games and that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ remake that plays like diablo was a huge let down for me. Planescape: Torment is quite possibly the best game i've ever beaten (twice) and this game (yes i'm playing it) has a similar look and feel to it. I admit the title sucked me in but it's still fun and it plays like the first game. You are more like the nameless one than you think...

[Drake]

Why call it Torment ? Well that's because you can't well call it planescape : torment 2, since they couldn't get the planescape rules (wotc are just too scared to make an other d&d game after daggerdale and sword coast), so they got an other ruleset, hence we now have numenera that replaced planescape.
But don't read the tile backwards, the series IS Torment. Even with another ruleset, an other universe the mechanics are still more or less the same, you're playing an immortal that has no memories, you're evolving in a strange world with stange items and characters, you have a labyrinth in you mind that you can access when you die, it's still mainly story driven with hard quest choices.

It' still a sequel. Not in the sense of the story continuing, but more like you get final fantasy 1 and 2, the feeling is the same, even if the story changes.

[aramintai]

Because devs wanted to make Planescape: Torment 2 but WotC wouldn't sell rights for a game in obsolete Planescape setting. But at least they got the rights for the name "Torment". So then they went with Numenera setting and made this game a spiritual successor to Planescape: Torment and not a sequel, unfortunately. As for whether there will actually be any tormenty themes - that remains to be seen, but story does have more than a few parallels to the original game.

[Tom]

If, after playing both Planescape and Numemera, two rpgs about a dude who wakes up from certain death and follows in the path of memories that aren't his through a city replete with mystical secrets and colorful characters,
you still don't think it's somewhat fair for them to share a title, in addition to everything else they share...

Well I guess I can't explain it to you.

[Singrave]

"Torment" is from Buddhism. Sansara, the circle of rebirths that brings the torments.
And only by breaking the circle a person could achieve the enlightenment.

Planescape Multiverse died since 4th D&D edition, forget it and let it go.