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The story of Ock is one big clue towards this, combined with the dialogue (especially Jack's comment).
It’s not there to make the puzzle harder, it’s gonna become a vital part of the plot.
If appearance mattered, I could disguise myself as you and commit a crime, and you'd be guilty. Now sure, during the auction you have to use the wrong name for a character because they're pretending to be that person, but figuring out they're not is not part of the puzzle there but a reveal afterwards. Meanwhile this chapter is very explicitly about realizing this point.
Because the whole point of this Scene is that once someone gets hit with the full memory of somebody else hes gone! There is no Oriel any more! Just Echo!
Nice to see you over from the Balatro forums again btw ^^
When Oriel only had a month his behavior still started changing, its just that the more memories you give the less of the original is there and if you do "all" (all lenses) then it fully or 99+% replaces the original, it seems.
When only one minute, one day, one month , etc of memories are added at a time, it indeed doesn't previously remove the memories of that time of the target. The new memories are added to the new individual buit nothing is replaced.
YET it is true the game already hints there is something more complicated. As someone pointed previously, when Oriel Toussaint already get a couple of monthes of Echo Secundus memories, you can see the frontier are already getting blurry, as he refers to Echo secondus as himself before correcting himself and clearly loose himself in the memories.
We also see in complex that the woman who recieved the building manager memories seems quite obsessed and truamtized by this and yet it's only three days worth...
There has also been the fact that some people have theorized that Oriel may not be completly gone from the "PROM, NAPOL, PROM" that is siad in the very first case, which would translate as "Stop, my mind, stop" which may be a hint ther's still some Oriel Toussaint fighting back
Assuming this isn't just an inconsistance and there there is a planned explantion to all this, I think three hypotheses can be made there, I think:
- Maybe there's a limit of how much memories an individual can hold. When you introduce too much a a time (and remmeber that all lenses together compiunds by multiplying, not adding so you get somethign like THOUSANDS years worth a time, the old memeories get overwritten because there's simply "no more place"
-Maybe putting the thre lenses at a time doesn't jsut multiply their effect but downright change the effects of the "add" command to overwright.
-Or maybe, it's not quite clear cut as the game would want us to believe from the Lemurian tablet. Even if there was infiinite place in one's, the act of introducing so many memories at once is so traumatic (and I would imagine it would be) that it sort of "break" and "dilute" the older personality while the new memories are all introduced in one coherent block that the individual just sort has to assue the new identity as the only way to cope.
Perhaps however, if hypotheses 3 is true, elements of the old memories and personality may still be there and start to mix or reassert themselves later. We never get to see how an individual so "replaced" act in the long term.
Some people did notice they find odd that Echo Scundus in Oriel appears int he finale in the motocycle, seemingly to have adapted to the present time very fast (at least enough to have learned to use a motorcycle and not look lost like a feral animal). Granted he's a badass automaton warrior person, so he may jsut have adaptd that quickly, but I'd like to point it as a potential corroborating element for the idea he may be pulling elements, or at least knowlege form Oriel Toussaint.
With the element we have, this is only mostly pure speculation, mind.
One thing I do find a bit more inconsistant tho is the fact that:
- sometime the idol seems to tranfer only semantic memories (ie skills) without touching the episodic ones (ie the stuf you identify as having happend to you). the exemple would be the burpist who got the 'junk data', he doesn't seem to remember being a lemurian dancer (or if he does he sure never mentions it), jsut to remmeber the skill of how to do the dance.
- Yet sometime it transfers the other way around. (there's no indication the woman in the complex remembers any skill the manager has, but she does remember what happened to him during the weeks end picnic)
- and sometime both as is the case with full memory transfert.
Another inconsistency is why human minds deplete (forget) when their memories are transferred onto disks, but not vice versa. Why the idol copies from disks but cuts from humans is illogical, given they are both storage spaces for this technology to work.
If this is how it works (and what HunterN said is correct) then one way for the idol to determine this would be if memories are always time range stamped, and if being transferred to a human mind, simply replace any of their historical memories that match the duration of fresh memories being introduced.
However this would not explain why Oriel gets entirely replaced by Echo, as Echo lived millennia before Oriel was born...
Always a dumb take, this. What separates good sci-fi from bad is the degree of logical consistency to its tech.
If I wrote a story involving a teleportation device that worked to instantly transport almost any known matter, except it didn't work on McVitie's(TM) Digestive biscuits, and someone rightly pointed out that this is inconsistent (given those biscuits are comprised of a combination of elements shared by other objects that the device works on), would you come along and say they're wrong to complain that the 'magical' device does 'magical' things?
As far as overwriting goes, when only part of the memories are given, the subject is able to recall them at will but is otherwise themselves (though recalling powerful memories seem to impact their current state, as Oriel experienced). However, when "all" the memories are taken and then given, this results in overwriting the personhood. We don't know why this occurs when giving an arbitrary amount of memory outside of "all" does not, but Jack's notes imply that no trace of the original person remains and they're completely the other person at that point, as also implied by the Ock tale.