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Tyrant 2022년 9월 19일 오후 12시 07분
Dont get overhyped about gta 6
So let me start by saying im not a big gta fan.

but I honestly cant believe people are defending gta 6 still. The developers last game was one of the worst remakes to a series ive ever seen being the gta definitive editions that everyone unanimously hated.

Now that gta 6 has been leaked it looks pathetic. Yeah its unfinished but even still it looks really bad and especially the new characters look really generic almost looking like npcs from any other gta game. I think the only reason people are saying it looks good is due to blind fanboyism and the complete overhype this game is getting.

The developers have already admitted to toning down gtas edgy satire and humour so what we are going to get is something similar to the saints row 2022 reboot with awful writing and soulless gameplay.

I really hope people take a step back and realise that the rockstar they loved has died like blizzard fans have slowly had to realise. Gta 6 might sell extremely well when it releases but in my opinion this is a dumpster fire of a game in the making. I hope fanboys enjoy their censored toned down politically correct gta game but for people who have took a step back id consider realising what company you are buying from and what game you a likely to get.
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Cat 2022년 9월 23일 오전 6시 39분 
After GTA 4, I don't think people should be overhyped for anymore GTA games.
outcast 2022년 9월 23일 오전 8시 09분 
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I dont know why I even bother. Who are the female gangsters in the sopranos?

There is no coincidence that this happens now after Dan Houser the lead writer has left Rockstar and they have openly said that they will tone down the politically incorrect humor. It is not some sort of "conspiracy" or unwarranted fear of wokeness:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/gta-6-release-date-rockstar-cleans-up-image-after-employee-backlash?leadSource=uverify%20wall

The old notorious bad boy rebellious Rockstar of the gaming industry that put up the middle finger and did not care about what anyone thought is gone.

I can see that you have no ability to analyze anything properly so I assume most things fly over your head. If you had not noticed no "religious right wingers" or "racists" have ever complained about black protagonists in the GTA games. There is a good reason though that a female protagonist just does not fit the role and one does not have to be "sexist" to understand why. It is just not a logical choice, neither in a crime movie or a game about crime. Again if you just seek mediocracy and mindless entertainment I understand why you would not care about such things. But Rockstars have always strived for perfection in all things. If no movie writers have ever pulled off a good script with a female lead in gangster crime movie and Rockstars lead writer Dan Houser now have left the studio (which is not surprising) one must be beyond ignorant to think that they will be able to pull it off in a credible way. It will hurt the game, there is just no way around that.

Again if you are the sort of person who does not care about consistency and believability and just skip through all the cutscenes and story to just "shoot stuff" then I understand why it would not be a big thing.

This is the female gangster boss in Sopranos.

https://sopranos.fandom.com/wiki/Annalisa_Zucca

Are you done now?

She is not a main protagonist in any way or form. And she is portraid as a classy lady, probably put there because of blood line (like a queen). There is nothing wrong with that if it comes across as extremely rare (like in this case). And since Sopranos is so expertly written there is good reason to put here there which is critical and why it works and does not just feel sqeezed in because of quota like everything else these days (and why something like that would work in a GTA game also if it was well written):

"Hoping to meet Don Vittorio (the Family's official patriarch), he soon learns that Vittorio is now senile and that the official boss is his son in law, Mauro, who is currently in prison; this leaves Annalisa in charge. Tony is surprised to find a woman as head of a Mafia clan in Italy, and is distracted both by his attraction to her and his offense towards a woman boss. "

But she is not a street gangster (like is the characters in every GTA game) running around jumping fences, pulling people out of cars, shooting police, intimidating other people and getting into fist fights. Honestly discussing here often feels like trying to talk to a bunch of children who have no concept of anything.
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Hunu 2022년 9월 23일 오전 9시 15분 
outcast님이 먼저 게시:
luZk님이 먼저 게시:

This is the female gangster boss in Sopranos.

https://sopranos.fandom.com/wiki/Annalisa_Zucca

Are you done now?

She is not a main protagonist in any way or form. And she is portraid as a classy lady, probably put there because of blood line (like a queen). There is nothing wrong with that if it comes across as extremely rare (like in this case). And since Sopranos is so expertly written there is good reason to put here there which is critical and why it works and does not just feel sqeezed in because of quota like everything else these days (and why something like that would work in a GTA game also if it was well written):

"Hoping to meet Don Vittorio (the Family's official patriarch), he soon learns that Vittorio is now senile and that the official boss is his son in law, Mauro, who is currently in prison; this leaves Annalisa in charge. Tony is surprised to find a woman as head of a Mafia clan in Italy, and is distracted both by his attraction to her and his offense towards a woman boss. "

But she is not a street gangster (like is the characters in every GTA game) running around jumping fences, pulling people out of cars, shooting police, intimidating other people and getting into fist fights. Honestly discussing here often feels like trying to talk to a bunch of children who have no concept of anything.


Yeah, you're just wrong bud, sorry.
luZk 2022년 9월 23일 오전 9시 40분 
outcast님이 먼저 게시:
luZk님이 먼저 게시:

This is the female gangster boss in Sopranos.

https://sopranos.fandom.com/wiki/Annalisa_Zucca

Are you done now?

She is not a main protagonist in any way or form. And she is portraid as a classy lady, probably put there because of blood line (like a queen). There is nothing wrong with that if it comes across as extremely rare (like in this case). And since Sopranos is so expertly written there is good reason to put here there which is critical and why it works and does not just feel sqeezed in because of quota like everything else these days (and why something like that would work in a GTA game also if it was well written):

"Hoping to meet Don Vittorio (the Family's official patriarch), he soon learns that Vittorio is now senile and that the official boss is his son in law, Mauro, who is currently in prison; this leaves Annalisa in charge. Tony is surprised to find a woman as head of a Mafia clan in Italy, and is distracted both by his attraction to her and his offense towards a woman boss. "

But she is not a street gangster (like is the characters in every GTA game) running around jumping fences, pulling people out of cars, shooting police, intimidating other people and getting into fist fights. Honestly discussing here often feels like trying to talk to a bunch of children who have no concept of anything.

You said. "Who are the female gangsters in the sopranos?"

Dont move the goal posts.
outcast 2022년 9월 23일 오전 9시 53분 
Yes she is a total gangster.

luZk님이 먼저 게시:
outcast님이 먼저 게시:

She is not a main protagonist in any way or form. And she is portraid as a classy lady, probably put there because of blood line (like a queen). There is nothing wrong with that if it comes across as extremely rare (like in this case). And since Sopranos is so expertly written there is good reason to put here there which is critical and why it works and does not just feel sqeezed in because of quota like everything else these days (and why something like that would work in a GTA game also if it was well written):

"Hoping to meet Don Vittorio (the Family's official patriarch), he soon learns that Vittorio is now senile and that the official boss is his son in law, Mauro, who is currently in prison; this leaves Annalisa in charge. Tony is surprised to find a woman as head of a Mafia clan in Italy, and is distracted both by his attraction to her and his offense towards a woman boss. "

But she is not a street gangster (like is the characters in every GTA game) running around jumping fences, pulling people out of cars, shooting police, intimidating other people and getting into fist fights. Honestly discussing here often feels like trying to talk to a bunch of children who have no concept of anything.

You said. "Who are the female gangsters in the sopranos?"

Dont move the goal posts.

Yes she is really a total bad ass gangster.

I don't understand why I even try to argue basic things with children. It is completely pointless.

The funny thing is that this was actually an extremely good example of really good writing of a main character (Tony) and portraying him as being offended at seeing a woman as a step in boss for her brother and one reason why Sopranos and other classics like these are such masterpieces and why they where a great inspiration for Dan Houser when he wrote the script for the later GTA games before he now left Rockstar. Great scripts where the consistency and quality always had the front seat. Something that is almost impossible to do these days. The writers of Sopranos only cared about making the characters as believable as possible, without any political agenda steering them. Everything is done to serve the art and its purpose, not the reverse. That is the only way you can even aspire to making something that is truly a masterpiece.

Trying to explain these things though is like trying to throw pearls to swine. Just enjoy your shooting gallery. I know you don't care about a credible story or beliviable characters so it is really pointless to try to argue.
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luZk 2022년 9월 23일 오전 10시 04분 
outcast님이 먼저 게시:
Yes she is a total gangster.

luZk님이 먼저 게시:

You said. "Who are the female gangsters in the sopranos?"

Dont move the goal posts.

Yes she is really a total bad ass gangster.

I don't understand why I even try to argue basic things with children. It is completely pointless.

The funny thing is that this was actually an extremely good example of really good writing of a main character (Tony) and portraying him as being offended at seeing a woman as a step in boss for her brother and one reason why Sopranos and other classics like these are such masterpieces and why they where a great inspiration for Dan Houser when he wrote the script for the later GTA games before he now left Rockstar. Great scripts where the consistency and quality always had the front seat. Something that is almost impossible to do these days. The writers of Sopranos only cared about making the characters as believable as possible, without any political agenda steering them. Everything is done to serve the art and its purpose, not the reverse. That is the only way you can even aspire to making something that is truly a masterpiece.

Trying to explain these things though is like trying to throw pearls to swine. Just enjoy your shooting gallery. I know you don't care about a credible story or beliviable characters so it is really pointless to try to argue.

lol dude she has more power than any of the families in the US combined, did you miss that part, or is it your brain that refuse to accept this fact. Tony is intimidated by her. She is the most gangster of the gangsters of anyone in that series.
outcast 2022년 9월 23일 오전 10시 19분 
luZk님이 먼저 게시:
outcast님이 먼저 게시:
Yes she is a total gangster.



Yes she is really a total bad ass gangster.

I don't understand why I even try to argue basic things with children. It is completely pointless.

The funny thing is that this was actually an extremely good example of really good writing of a main character (Tony) and portraying him as being offended at seeing a woman as a step in boss for her brother and one reason why Sopranos and other classics like these are such masterpieces and why they where a great inspiration for Dan Houser when he wrote the script for the later GTA games before he now left Rockstar. Great scripts where the consistency and quality always had the front seat. Something that is almost impossible to do these days. The writers of Sopranos only cared about making the characters as believable as possible, without any political agenda steering them. Everything is done to serve the art and its purpose, not the reverse. That is the only way you can even aspire to making something that is truly a masterpiece.

Trying to explain these things though is like trying to throw pearls to swine. Just enjoy your shooting gallery. I know you don't care about a credible story or beliviable characters so it is really pointless to try to argue.

lol dude she has more power than any of the families in the US combined, did you miss that part, or is it your brain that refuse to accept this fact. Tony is intimidated by her. She is the most gangster of the gangsters of anyone in that series.

Yes Tony is really intimidated by her and it is exactly like you say and you say it so well:

"she is the most gangster of the gangsters of anyone in the series".

Good luck with your life.
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luZk 2022년 9월 23일 오전 10시 22분 
outcast님이 먼저 게시:
luZk님이 먼저 게시:

lol dude she has more power than any of the families in the US combined, did you miss that part, or is it your brain that refuse to accept this fact. Tony is intimidated by her. She is the most gangster of the gangsters of anyone in that series.

Yes Tony is really intimidated by her and it is exactly like you say and you say it so well:

"she is the most gangster of the gangsters of anyone in the series".

Good luck with your life.

Thanks I guess?
NiteLurk 2022년 9월 23일 오전 10시 26분 
This reminds me of the good ol' CoD days. After MW2 was such a success, everyone got so hyped for Black Ops, and in return were disappointed that it was such a trash game. Can see the same thing happening here. GTA 5 is without a doubt the best GTA ever released. Going to be hard to top it. Only time will tell I guess.
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