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It's simply not WORTH the headache to do random heists. All it takes is one dumbass leaving the heist for <reasons> and you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Are you at the end of the heist? From my experience people just want to do the end. It's annoying.
1. People don't really like to join Set ups.
2. Your lobby will fill in a manner of seconds when you get a Finale going, everyone's onto the cash.
Also, the hassle of playing with strangers, Heists require alot of communication and, well, it's hard to communicate with people who may not even speak your own language or don't even have a decent mic.
If it was a matchmaking issue, you'd think that it would also be difficult to get a full lobby for other gamemodes or for heist finales, but this couldnt be further from the truth.
How is the payout for setups "bad"? Most pay 25k or so for very little time/effort. A helluva lot faster than contact missions for example. Yeah, some take a bit longer, but most are very fast and fun.
Like for example stealing the EMP. It's really fun when you fly in formation at the end with "danger zone" playing. Ofc you have to be old enough to remember top gun. :)
Not say heists in general aren't worth doing. But just doing setups as a random join? It makes absolutely no sense. I only do them if I know who I am playing with, and assuming it will lead to the finale where we all get a substantial score.
Thats because good players are playing with friends.
Seems like you are not a good player then.
but i get your point, its a pain making a lobby without friends
ill play with u though if u want
Where did you come up with that conclusion? That makes no sense. If someone has friends that automatically makes them a good player? Even if they fail the most basic tasks in the game they're a good player if they are playing with friends?
In that case I find it extremly helpful if the other guys just put random insults in the chat (so far I've rarely met people using headsets, and if they did, they usually spoke a language I can only identify as something from eastern Europe) - of course way more helpful than just telling me what to do or how to do it better. Or just basically coordinating anything at all and not silently expect everyone to have 200+ hours into that game and/or having played that specific heist or mission before.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not f*cking around, I'm surely not the worst player on the planet and I take this stuff rather serious because I don't want to spoil the fun for everyone else. But it just doesn't f*cking help if I accidentialy crash into another car while driving and someone shouts: "MAAAAAAN, F*******CK YOU, YOU SUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!" OK, yeah, maybe I suck. Maybe you're better than me (Hint: Those with the most insulting comments are usually not). If that bothers you, don't f*cking play with strangers.
But I gotta say, so far 90% of missions, heists and heist setups I did with complete strangers were surprisingly fun and successful. Of course you'll fail a couple of times, but if you find some decent people, who won't immediately start insulting everyone like a 12-year-old d*ckhead and/or leave after the first failure, you can just talk about what went wrong and how to do it better on the next try. That's how it's meant to be and that's how it usually works pretty well.
The EMP setup is the one setup I will always join. It's just too much fun!