Kicked by other players - for no reason? Random?

[Macdallan]

So... does this happen often? I just finished a couple missions with a really good group. Everyone played well together, they were all friendly. Then, roughly 5 minutes after I exited the group, I got booted. No warning, no idea why, not one person said anything to me to indicate why I might be kicked. Hadn't interacted with others in the session either. Didn't shoot any players, didn't interfere with any players.

Just curious if it's an occasional issue, or if people get together just to boot players for their own amusement.

[A God Machine]

Pretty normal stuff, for me anyway when playing solo in most games, sometimes people are inviting their friends or do it just for kicks. People online can be pretty bipolar, escpeically kids

[Sinister Pixel]

There's modders and griefers in nearly every session now, some like to clear out other players before starting missions to remove any competition... It's time Rockstar put more attention into maintaining the integrity of their product. The modder situation is way out of hand. I watched one make millions on a machine at the casino a few days ago, a a kiddions mod he claimed.

[Macdallan]

Thanks for the responses.

[atomicgirl]

Some people who kick players are paranoid idiots doing this to protect their pwecious cawgo. If you don't know what I mean, there are losers who "grind" this game up to eight hours a day like a job piling up cargo, and then get targeted by griefers when trying to sell it all. Some of these No Life Grinders try selling in solo lobbies but then when new players start to join their session, will just kick them out of paranoia that they'll be griefed.

Other kickers are players with a God complex just getting off on the power of kicking people. I have heard so many modders start talking arrogantly about how everyone is playing on "their server" or warning people that they'll kill everyone if someone does something they don't like. The point is, don't take any of this personally. Sadly, a tiny percentage of the game's base that is antisocial or mentally disturbed have been given most of the power by mods.

[Macdallan]

Yeah, I have played enough that I know what you mean. Thanks for the additional info.

I just encountered a cheater and it was ridiculous. They spawned explosives and cages all over the map. I got stuck in the barber shop. Had to swap to another session (which, of course, put me back in single player because reasons...). The constant loading back and forth gets old, it's not the first time that's happened, but it wouldn't have been necessary if there was something in place to stop people from hacking or cheating to that degree.

I know it's probably better to play solo, or with friends, but I've just started the game and haven't even had time to build up a small group of trustworthy players yet. Also have it on EGS not Steam so... that doesn't help. Haha.

[macmikey]

Happens to me daily. just doing my thing not bothering anyone and I'm suddenly with an unknown network error.

Don't care anymore. I just ramble on in the next lobby. Don't sweat it

[atomicgirl]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

I know it's probably better to play solo, or with friends, but I've just started the game and haven't even had time to build up a small group of trustworthy players yet. Also have it on EGS not Steam so... that doesn't help. Haha.

It's not really better to play solo, IMO, which is why I try to avoid it if I can. You miss out on a lot that way. For example, if you run MC businesses, you miss out on the Higher Demand bonus and freemode events like Business and Cargo Battles.

Also, you will find the experience of playing the game a lot cheaper going solo. I've done that maybe 4 times, tops, and each time it felt cheap, like I was cheating at selling stock and that the experience was lesser overall. The game was meant to be played with others, and you can really feel it when you try going solo.

[RiChuF]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

So... does this happen often? I just finished a couple missions with a really good group. Everyone played well together, they were all friendly. Then, roughly 5 minutes after I exited the group, I got booted. No warning, no idea why, not one person said anything to me to indicate why I might be kicked. Hadn't interacted with others in the session either. Didn't shoot any players, didn't interfere with any players.

Just curious if it's an occasional issue, or if people get together just to boot players for their own amusement.

sometimes the game hiccups and boots you
had it my self in a solo public lobby

[Levianne]

Originally posted by atomicgirl:

Also, you will find the experience of playing the game a lot cheaper going solo. I've done that maybe 4 times, tops, and each time it felt cheap, like I was cheating at selling stock and that the experience was lesser overall. The game was meant to be played with others, and you can really feel it when you try going solo.

I wouldn't say it feels cheaper. Quite the contrary. In public, you may find help, I wasn't able to sell my bunker stock on my own, because those damn enemies spawning on me and all I had to defend myself was the armed buggy, a damn light buggy against 4 or so SUVs. Whoever designed these type of missions deserves a punch between the eyes. You can have a hard time selling solo. Restocking as well. Stealing from the army? Like really? You're supposed to go against a freakin tank? And they don't even give you a vehicle this time, you have to use whatever you're able to get your hands on (which in my case isn't much, I'm kinda broke). Not a very good mission design in my opinion. And in no way feels cheaper, like cheating or something. Definitely no.

[Tashnaladar]

there is a decided lack of trust by players in public lobbies. most of the time they want to keep it peaceful, so they votekick by reflex. it sucks, but it seems rockstar has gone on permanent vacation when it comes to fixing the problems of the game. my opinion, just open invite only lobbies so that we can do everything, problem solved...

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Tashnaladar:

there is a decided lack of trust by players in public lobbies. most of the time they want to keep it peaceful, so they votekick by reflex. it sucks, but it seems rockstar has gone on permanent vacation when it comes to fixing the problems of the game. my opinion, just open invite only lobbies so that we can do everything, problem solved...

The lack of trust isn't without reason though. Most people think, that GTA Online is a strict PvP even outside of the PvP modes, like in freeplay. It's the community, that allowed such thinking (and R* didn't help much in preventing it either), so instead of being killed by randoms over and over without reason, people often choose to stick to their "private" lobbies, or claim lobbies as private and kick uninvited people out.

[Tashnaladar]

agreed

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Originally posted by Macdallan:

So... does this happen often? I just finished a couple missions with a really good group. Everyone played well together, they were all friendly. Then, roughly 5 minutes after I exited the group, I got booted. No warning, no idea why, not one person said anything to me to indicate why I might be kicked. Hadn't interacted with others in the session either. Didn't shoot any players, didn't interfere with any players.

Just curious if it's an occasional issue, or if people get together just to boot players for their own amusement.

Unfortunately yes. The more you rank up, the more you are going to encounter it. Rank, mental state, kill feed, KD, clothing and vehicle choices all contribute to whether your fellow players become triggered by your presence. I literally go into missions trying to look as generic as possible these days just to avoid potential kick votes. Still 50/50 chance due to my insanely high rank (i'm a day 1 transferred player). On the opposite end of this spectrum, i've had low ranked players with Oppressors vote kick me after missions have ended because, "i wasn't fast enough" when in reality they just flew to the targets in 30 seconds and finished the mission paying out a measly 4,000 dollars.

Of note, is the fact when in missions, some host will leave, so new hosts get assigned either by random, or by the options set in your Online settings. You can "prefer" to stay as host in joined missions, but whether you become host i think depends on your overall job points (JP) as these also determine who has the leading vote on the next job at the vote screen. The only way this is countered is by others voting on the job least voted for.

As a result, the host who changes place with the person who left, now may take a disliking to you (the bipolar comment previous was a good definition of their actions) and will kick you. It only takes one vote (the hosts) to kick you out of the lobby. You will notice if it is anyone else, you get a flashing boot icon over your name in the player list screen in the pause menu. This means someone not the host has taken a dislike to you, but cannot actively do anything unless more players vote. Free mode it has to be a unanimous vote, whereas mission based content the host gets overriding privileges.

In any other scenario as mentioned previously by others, is when you get kicked by script users. Their menus can auto kick unknown joiners, but they can also fail the repeat the process. An example i've witnessed is when a skiddie auto kicked me the second i loaded into a public session. I got moved to the clouds for 10 seconds and dropped back down in the exact same lobby, with the exact same players. Someone instantly approached me in a weaponized vehicle so i shot an RPG at them, they were in god mode. I drive away (tbh i should have left on my own accord after this revelation), and the god mode user chased me half way across the map just to spam rockets to get a kill. You can get protected lobbies, and then these weird pseudo mod-controlled lobbies where they aren't necessarily safe just because no ones being killed. Anyone can take a dislike to you at any point. The playerbase and the tools to 'fuel the fire' so to speak inevitably make everyone paranoid. It kinda sucks.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by psi onix:

90% of the time you're seeing the "kicked by other players" screen its because a modder booted you, not an actual vote kick. you will also notice once loaded into a new session that you're greeted with a Bad Sport threat that you "previously left a Job or Event" (even though you didn't). When you're kicked out a session by a legitimate vote kick you don't receive this message in the new session.

I've seen that message once, but it did not happen when I was booted. Glad to know this happens, if I join and see it I'll switch to another session to avoid the headache.

I'm reading through these messages and it seems cheating is rampant, and it's mostly cheaters causing these issues. Why would any company allow this to occur to this level. I've only recently (a few days ago) started to play GTA V Online, and it can be fun, but the amount of cheating and griefing that goes on gets ridiculous. How can the developers just let that happen? I've seen a player in "god mode" slaughtering other players repeatedly for no reason other than they could, players spawning cages all over the map and trapping players inside shops with no way to escape other than joining a new session, players teleporting instantly during missions, and as noted above I've personally been booted for no reason whatsoever. It's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, if someone had a very unobtrusive aimbot and got away with that once in a while I could understand them not being caught, but blatantly teleporting, spawning items, and being invincible? That shouldn't happen.

It would help if there was some kind of log, and there may be that I'm, not aware of, that tracks people using mods and commands to spawn items, to turn "god mode" on and off, things like that. A way for players to identify and report these people who seem only interested in ruining things for others. That was part of the problem, we had no idea who was doing it. We had some ideas, many players left so we were down under 10 players, so it was slowly getting narrowed down, but they were smart enough to stop messing around when the player count dropped so we wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Thanks for all the explanations.