Cayo Perico Guard Cone Of Vision Bug

[Chips]

This is a question that has been asked a few times I think in many different places, steam, reddit, etc. but maybe 30% of the time I do the Cayo perico heist solo (It’s fine 2, 3 or 4 man) but solo right after I finish collecting the primary target sometimes a guard will spawn in with a MASSIVE cone of vision like literally the entire size of the compound and regardless of the fact that I am underground and he can’t even see me, everyone’s cone of vision disappears and the entire compound is immediately alerted of my presence. I was wondering if there was a reason in particular why this happens even though it seems like just collecting the primary target triggers him to spawn in bugged sometimes but I was wondering if anyone had found a solution to the issue rather than doing what I do and Just killing everyone and making a break for the green button, TIA GTA people

[PabloPBS940]

Did you kill someone before getting the primary target?

[Chips]

I know where you’re going with this but it doesn’t matter, no matter who I kill or where I kill them or if I don’t kill anyone the issue is with the guard that spawns in, the cone of vision he was blessed to be born with is the size of a kosatka and It’s able to see people through walls, I usually only kill the first two guard on the right and the first one following near south storage and take out that camera, then when the jug passes I knock him over and kill him, move onto all the red cone guards and melee them and by then I’ve got what I need to get the safe money and the primary target. I do the heist the exact same way every single time I play bar maybe sometimes straying from my regular path if it doesn’t give me the gate key but I do it the same way every single time and most of the time 60-70% it goes fine and 30-40% of the time he spawns in and observes me underground while he’s near the front gate above ground nowhere near me and incapable of seeing me from his position.

[Fives5555]

It does matter. More guards spawn in after you get the primary target. If one of those guards sees a dead body, they all become alerted.

[kr3m]

Originally posted by Chips:

after I finish collecting the primary target sometimes a guard will spawn in with a MASSIVE cone of vision like literally the entire size of the compound

When you steal the primary target, there are 5 guards that spawn around the compound as soon as you take the target item. This happens when you KO a guard so their body is left in an area that the new spawns can see the body.

This can happen on 2, 3 or 4 man runs too, but I'd imagine if players recognize the larger number of players as a greater risk of getting caught, they may opt to avoid unnecessary kills; or you might just be lucky enough that one of the other players knows to KO guards in certain places and avoid them while they're in other locations. In any case, the more passive you can be, the better off you'll be. Might want to take the primary target before going around killing guards for the keys (can use Rubio's office elevator to go down to the primary and back out). This way if you do alert guards during the killing, you've already got your target and just need to get out. I recommend getting your secondary targets before going to the compound for the primary for this same reason. It's no fun running all over the island with Buzzards, jeeps and motorbikes coming after you, shooting you and lowering your take the whole time.

[Chips]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

It does matter. More guards spawn in after you get the primary target. If one of those guards sees a dead body, they all become alerted.

It would matter if that was related to what I was talking about, I’m not talking about a guard spawning in and seeing a body, I’m not talking about some guards spawning in near people I’ve killed, I’m talking about a guard spawning in that saw ME when I was underground and he was at the front gate above ground nowhere near me, his cone of vision was larger than the compound itself, it’s not a matter of if he saw a body, It’s not a matter of did he spawn near someone I already killed It’s a matter of the guard was literally bugged and he could view the entire compound, this happens on runs where I haven’t killed anyone at all it’s not about dead bodies or anything the guard is seeing ME while I’m underground and nowhere near him

[Chips]

Originally posted by kr3m:

Originally posted by Chips:

after I finish collecting the primary target sometimes a guard will spawn in with a MASSIVE cone of vision like literally the entire size of the compound

When you steal the primary target, there are 5 guards that spawn around the compound as soon as you take the target item. This happens when you KO a guard so their body is left in an area that the new spawns can see the body.

This can happen on 2, 3 or 4 man runs too, but I'd imagine if players recognize the larger number of players as a greater risk of getting caught, they may opt to avoid unnecessary kills; or you might just be lucky enough that one of the other players knows to KO guards in certain places and avoid them while they're in other locations. In any case, the more passive you can be, the better off you'll be. Might want to take the primary target before going around killing guards for the keys (can use Rubio's office elevator to go down to the primary and back out). This way if you do alert guards during the killing, you've already got your target and just need to get out. I recommend getting your secondary targets before going to the compound for the primary for this same reason. It's no fun running all over the island with Buzzards, jeeps and motorbikes coming after you, shooting you and lowering your take the whole time.

I appreciate your response but that’s not what my comment was about, I have played Cayo perico like 200+ times, I know my way around the island and the compound and everything in between, my issue IS NOT to do with bodies being found, I repeat, the compound DID NOT get alerted due to finding a body, the guards did not spawn near someone I had killed, my issue has NOTHING to do with bodies being found. I would like to reiterate in the clearest way possible, my issue is a BUG. There is ONE guard that spawns in and instead of his cone of vision covering a foot or two to the left and right of him and a few feet in front of him it covers tens of metres in front of him and tens of meters to the left and right of him, the guard is bugged and he can literally (I cannot stress this enough he is LITERALLY) capable of seeing the entire compound and the walls are no limit to him, he spawns in at the front gate WHICH I MIGHT ADD, in all my runs I don’t kill ANYONE near the front gate at all whatsoever until AFTER I collect the primary target but I digress, he spawns at the front gate looking in the direction of the drainage tunnel and he can see the entire compound, I am underground putting my tequila or whatnot in my bag, nowhere near anyone else and not in sight of a single soul and he can see me through every wall floor and anything in between. I literally have zero clue how or why this happens and I’m looking for an answer, I want to know what is causing a guard to spawn in with a cone of vision larger than a kosatka and X-ray vision that allows him to see me through walls

[Chips]

I do want to put out there I’m sorry if I’m rude or if any of my comments come off that way I do apologise, I truly am just frustrated and everyone I talk to seems to not have had the same problem as I have and every time I ask about suggestions I keep getting asked if I had killed any guard and whatnot, I mean it when I say I cannot be more clear, the compound is not getting altered due to a body being found the compound is being alerted due to me being found, by a guard, at the front gate, while I’m underground, around 0 guards, this guard has literal x ray vision and a cone of vision the size of the compound itself, this bug has been around for an extremely long time and it used to happen to my mates as well when we all ran cayo’s together but everyone else I ask about it for insight misunderstands my questions and thinks the compound found a body. Please if anyone has an answer please let me know

[cruste]

Originally posted by Chips:

Originally posted by Fives5555:

It does matter. More guards spawn in after you get the primary target. If one of those guards sees a dead body, they all become alerted.

It would matter if that was related to what I was talking about, I’m not talking about a guard spawning in and seeing a body, I’m not talking about some guards spawning in near people I’ve killed, I’m talking about a guard spawning in that saw ME when I was underground and he was at the front gate above ground nowhere near me, his cone of vision was larger than the compound itself, it’s not a matter of if he saw a body, It’s not a matter of did he spawn near someone I already killed It’s a matter of the guard was literally bugged and he could view the entire compound, this happens on runs where I haven’t killed anyone at all it’s not about dead bodies or anything the guard is seeing ME while I’m underground and nowhere near him

it might help to simply record these failed approaches and people could check, if you made some failure at a certain point. players action often differ from their talking.

you are aware that guards can also get alerted through noise from running, torch usage, missed shots or high caliber usage(sniper rifle) which penetrates targets , same goes for killing people at false spot so they get spotted by patrols or newly spawned units after you took the main target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf0a0C4JHlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcvjCKNKSKM

it is a normal process, R* literally nerfed this heist into oblivion, because it was way too easy and still is to earn quick cash.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/10lbotj/answer_to_why_the_alarm_goes_off_on_cayo_now_its/
https://gtaforums.com/topic/991977-cayo-perico-guards-being-alerted-please-explain/
map with guard routes
https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/zweyi0/drug_wars_dlc_cayo_nerf_a_guide_for_killing_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/10e61oe/spare_these_3_cayo_compound_guards_to_avoid/

you can move dead bodies through weapon usage, simply shoot at the corpse until it is in the right location

Originally posted by Chips:

I appreciate your response but that’s not what my comment was about, I have played Cayo perico like 200+ times, I know my way around the island and the compound and everything in between, my issue IS NOT to do with bodies being found, I repeat, the compound DID NOT get alerted due to finding a body, the guards did not spawn near someone I had killed, my issue has NOTHING to do with bodies being found. I would like to reiterate in the clearest way possible, my issue is a BUG. There is ONE guard that spawns in and instead of his cone of vision covering a foot or two to the left and right of him and a few feet in front of him it covers tens of metres in front of him and tens of meters to the left and right of him, the guard is bugged and he can literally (I cannot stress this enough he is LITERALLY) capable of seeing the entire compound and the walls are no limit to him, he spawns in at the front gate WHICH I MIGHT ADD, in all my runs I don’t kill ANYONE near the front gate at all whatsoever until AFTER I collect the primary target but I digress, he spawns at the front gate looking in the direction of the drainage tunnel and he can see the entire compound, I am underground putting my tequila or whatnot in my bag, nowhere near anyone else and not in sight of a single soul and he can see me through every wall floor and anything in between. I literally have zero clue how or why this happens and I’m looking for an answer, I want to know what is causing a guard to spawn in with a cone of vision larger than a kosatka and X-ray vision that allows him to see me through walls

your procedure is still unclear

have you killed someone during this approach?
maybe the guy at the main gate spotted the dead body of this red guard

you might get a definitive answer in maybe 10+ year when one of the devs finally retired and is talking how they implemented such nerfs, because cayo was too easy.

[Akakun]

Just made my usual run, no issues so far. I'm gonna leave it here just in case if you wanna try to replicate so you can check if the "bug" still occurs.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322750851

[Navarone]

I have the same problem as you, whether I eliminate anyone or not, a guard appears out of nowhere at the door to the sewers with a cone of vision that sees through the walls. But I was retrying the same attack until I saw what was causing that guard to appear in my game.
In my attempts, he stopped appearing when killing a specific guard in a specific area
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322961595
It seems that if you kill this guard after these arches, the alarm will not sound nor will any guard appear with the cone of vision to detect you.
I want to think that after obtaining the main objective, the game refreshes not only the position of several new soldiers but also the surveillance cameras, making the destroyed ones work for a few seconds and then stop working if you destroyed them since I only eliminated two cameras in those moves and one was that guard's. If you kill him before the arches it appears that you were detected and if you kill him after the arches no alarm sounds. My theory, as I mentioned, is that the camera reappears for a few seconds with its field of vision and detects the body and then reappears as destroyed.

[Chips]

Originally posted by cruste:

Originally posted by Chips:

It would matter if that was related to what I was talking about, I’m not talking about a guard spawning in and seeing a body, I’m not talking about some guards spawning in near people I’ve killed, I’m talking about a guard spawning in that saw ME when I was underground and he was at the front gate above ground nowhere near me, his cone of vision was larger than the compound itself, it’s not a matter of if he saw a body, It’s not a matter of did he spawn near someone I already killed It’s a matter of the guard was literally bugged and he could view the entire compound, this happens on runs where I haven’t killed anyone at all it’s not about dead bodies or anything the guard is seeing ME while I’m underground and nowhere near him

it might help to simply record these failed approaches and people could check, if you made some failure at a certain point. players action often differ from their talking.

you are aware that guards can also get alerted through noise from running, torch usage, missed shots or high caliber usage(sniper rifle) which penetrates targets , same goes for killing people at false spot so they get spotted by patrols or newly spawned units after you took the main target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf0a0C4JHlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcvjCKNKSKM

it is a normal process, R* literally nerfed this heist into oblivion, because it was way too easy and still is to earn quick cash.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/10lbotj/answer_to_why_the_alarm_goes_off_on_cayo_now_its/
https://gtaforums.com/topic/991977-cayo-perico-guards-being-alerted-please-explain/
map with guard routes
https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/zweyi0/drug_wars_dlc_cayo_nerf_a_guide_for_killing_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/10e61oe/spare_these_3_cayo_compound_guards_to_avoid/

you can move dead bodies through weapon usage, simply shoot at the corpse until it is in the right location

Originally posted by Chips:

I appreciate your response but that’s not what my comment was about, I have played Cayo perico like 200+ times, I know my way around the island and the compound and everything in between, my issue IS NOT to do with bodies being found, I repeat, the compound DID NOT get alerted due to finding a body, the guards did not spawn near someone I had killed, my issue has NOTHING to do with bodies being found. I would like to reiterate in the clearest way possible, my issue is a BUG. There is ONE guard that spawns in and instead of his cone of vision covering a foot or two to the left and right of him and a few feet in front of him it covers tens of metres in front of him and tens of meters to the left and right of him, the guard is bugged and he can literally (I cannot stress this enough he is LITERALLY) capable of seeing the entire compound and the walls are no limit to him, he spawns in at the front gate WHICH I MIGHT ADD, in all my runs I don’t kill ANYONE near the front gate at all whatsoever until AFTER I collect the primary target but I digress, he spawns at the front gate looking in the direction of the drainage tunnel and he can see the entire compound, I am underground putting my tequila or whatnot in my bag, nowhere near anyone else and not in sight of a single soul and he can see me through every wall floor and anything in between. I literally have zero clue how or why this happens and I’m looking for an answer, I want to know what is causing a guard to spawn in with a cone of vision larger than a kosatka and X-ray vision that allows him to see me through walls

your procedure is still unclear

have you killed someone during this approach?
maybe the guy at the main gate spotted the dead body of this red guard

you might get a definitive answer in maybe 10+ year when one of the devs finally retired and is talking how they implemented such nerfs, because cayo was too easy.

Thank you for writing such a detailed response and yes I’m aware the easiest way to clear up exactly what I mean and to show an example of what it is that I’m talking about would be to record it happening which I will next time it happens but as of late the only reason why I haven’t recorded it is It’s just so annoying, it has happened so much that back when I played ps4 I clipped it because it thought it was utter BS but after so long of it happening it wasn’t new or crazy to me it was just a hindrance. I will clip it next time and show exactly what I mean but as for now if anyone has any information please let me know, the main thing I want to make clear is no one got discovered, no bodies were found from new guards spawning in I cannot stress that enough no bodies were found at all whatsoever, it is a bugged guard to my knowledge so far and I’m just looking to see if anyone knows why it has happened or how to avoid it if it is due to player error though through different runs both with killing guards and not killing guards it seems to happen regardless.

[Chips]

Originally posted by Akakun:

Just made my usual run, no issues so far. I'm gonna leave it here just in case if you wanna try to replicate so you can check if the "bug" still occurs.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322750851

I think someone may have just solved it but thank you for offering your hand in trying to help I am very appreciative of everyone that tried offering suggestions or thoughts whether they helped or not just trying means more than most know. I don’t think it matters what approach you take apart from one key detail but thank you for your comment it is greatly appreciated

[Chips]

Originally posted by Navarone:

I have the same problem as you, whether I eliminate anyone or not, a guard appears out of nowhere at the door to the sewers with a cone of vision that sees through the walls. But I was retrying the same attack until I saw what was causing that guard to appear in my game.
In my attempts, he stopped appearing when killing a specific guard in a specific area
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322961595
It seems that if you kill this guard after these arches, the alarm will not sound nor will any guard appear with the cone of vision to detect you.
I want to think that after obtaining the main objective, the game refreshes not only the position of several new soldiers but also the surveillance cameras, making the destroyed ones work for a few seconds and then stop working if you destroyed them since I only eliminated two cameras in those moves and one was that guard's. If you kill him before the arches it appears that you were detected and if you kill him after the arches no alarm sounds. My theory, as I mentioned, is that the camera reappears for a few seconds with its field of vision and detects the body and then reappears as destroyed.

This is the answer
It seems it’s not that specific camera or that specific guard but rather that specific combination in most if not all locations with that same result.

I’ve done Cayo a different way so many times and every time it has happened there is a guard taken out in a place where a camera can see it but no guard that spawns in or walks around can see it, of course I take out the camera before it can pan back to the body but in the case that the camera would reset for a couple seconds and detect the body it wouldn’t matter, the damage would already be done and the guard would be spawned in with superhero compound vision.

I would like to thank everyone that tried to help and I would like to thank you in Particular for bringing peace to my mind after literal years of torture wondering why this would randomly take place in my Cayo’s and not caring so much I could play with process of elimination to find the cause or a solution. I appreciate this more than you know and I’m very grateful. Thank you

[Leek n Potato]

Originally posted by Chips:

This is a question that has been asked a few times I think in many different places, steam, reddit, etc. but maybe 30% of the time I do the Cayo perico heist solo (It’s fine 2, 3 or 4 man) but solo right after I finish collecting the primary target sometimes a guard will spawn in with a MASSIVE cone of vision like literally the entire size of the compound and regardless of the fact that I am underground and he can’t even see me, everyone’s cone of vision disappears and the entire compound is immediately alerted of my presence. I was wondering if there was a reason in particular why this happens even though it seems like just collecting the primary target triggers him to spawn in bugged sometimes but I was wondering if anyone had found a solution to the issue rather than doing what I do and Just killing everyone and making a break for the green button, TIA GTA people

The ONLY work around i have found for this if you have entered via Kosotka is to do the Keypad Hack from the office.
For whatever reason the Elevator doesnt always work and i have to get the keys to go underneath anyway, but it does stop the all seeing Guard from catching me through the walls for whatever reason.

*Edit, i don't kill many guards and avoid the big guy if this bug happens.

Hope this helps someone.

[ChickenBalls]

still not a bug
just dont kill the guards you are not supposed to kill
plenty of guides online
ive even posted a screenshot of which guards you should not kill a year or two ago