There is no good modder. All modders deserve a ban and mod makers even to get sued in real life

[Viperstar]

First of all, modding itself is not allowed. Its against the ingame policy. Everybody that is doing so is doing a cyber crime. it does not matter to what degree you abuse those mods. The moment you got mods injected inside GTAO you are doing something illegal. Even if your intention would be to do something good with the mods, you are still a "bad guy" since you violate terms. Also doing something good with mods is a matter of perspective. It is always the ones that claim to use mods against griefers, while they obliterate the whole lobby in the meantime. But its okay from their modding narcissist perspective, because they "just" killed griefers. Not that I am a grifer and I want to go on a rant against modders. That is not my point here. My point is that the grifer is doing allowed acts. The act of griefing another dudes cargo is just a game design. The griefer is doing so on normal activities, while the modder is doing illegal activities. So the griefer is actually the good one and the modder the bad one. Hate or love it. The point is that there is this type of wanna be "hero" modders out there that weight the griefers worse than their actual abuse of modding. Who might be good modders, you may ask yourself? Those that drop money to others or doing a money service, while the legit player farms hours to get even close to this amount? Economically not really morallic. I could write more and more of these type of instances that get stated as good modding, but are in fact not really as "good" as being stated.

My next point goes to the guy from yesterday on threads, who is very likely a mod creators himself as he indirectly signaled.

His point was that mod creators are actually good persons. He claims mod makers are just doing side income.

Ok, but at what cost? You willing to sell mods to immature human beings that are ready to abuse mods to their own toxic use. Even if the modder himself is just being productive, its not as hes doing a good thing. The issue exactly starts at the mod maker. In fact, the mod maker is even doing a bigger damage to the game environment. If no mod maker would exist, no mod could be used. So R* if you really want to do something, don't make just ban waves, because moders will always come back. Keep erasing mod companies as you luckily already did with mod menus such as luna and so. Mod makers are the origin of the whole issue.

Actually, modding itself is a cyber delict, but can not really lead to huge consequences in real life rather than getting a ingame ban. However, doing a mod menu, abusing a mod menu for recovery services or selling mod menus is a huge crime with consequences in your real life. You can actually be sued for this. Depending on the damage you caused, you got to pay a damage compensation up to the values of even millions. So in fact, the mod maker is even worse than just the regual modder. Both however should be stopped and I write this because the modding became really worse. Every lobby has a modder that keeps messing with the whole lobby to a point where invite only sessions is the only escape. But here comes my question. Why do you play gta "online" if you are then going to a solo session? Then you could actually just play gta 5 with content mods and more additions and you would have more fun. Gta online excels with the multiplayer aspect so of course it should be played online. However, my suggestion to the modders is that they actually can mod as much they want to inside solo sessions. It would be still illegal, but at least they would not harm others with it. So modders, go to solo sessions. Or be adult and delet your modding tools and play legit!

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cyber crime lol, not yet it isn't. it volates the eula and thats about it but eula's are a subject of debate on their legitimacy. not that i condone cheating... but its not a cyber crime.

[Zero McDol]

I have no respect for any cheaters using mod menu's nor the modders that make them. As far as I'm concerned, they (modders making Online menu's) should get sued.

Disclaimer: By modders I mean the modders making GTA Online mod menu's, not the modders making mods or cheats for -> Offline story mode use <-.

[Viperstar]

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cyber crime lol, not yet it isn't. it volates the eula and thats about it but eula's are a subject of debate on their legitimacy. not that i condone cheating... but its not a cyber crime.

Doing mod menus and selling those or doing recovery service is not just against the eula. This is actually a delict and can be sued. In fact there has been cases where specific modding teams got sued and had to pay huge damage compensations. Do your research and you will see. It is definitely a crime. they are generating cyber-currency to make real money out of it without contributing to the offcial game company

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Origineel geplaatst door Viperstar:

Origineel geplaatst door -iD-:

cyber crime lol, not yet it isn't. it volates the eula and thats about it but eula's are a subject of debate on their legitimacy. not that i condone cheating... but its not a cyber crime.

Doing mod menus and selling those or doing recovery service is not just against the eula. This is actually a delict and can be sued. In fact there has been cases where specific modding teams got sued and had to pay huge damage compensations. Do your research and you will see. It is definitely a crime. they are generating cyber-currency to make real money out of it without contributing to the offcial game company

yean but just cuz you can sue some one doesn't make it a cyber crime.

[Viperstar]

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Origineel geplaatst door Viperstar:

Doing mod menus and selling those or doing recovery service is not just against the eula. This is actually a delict and can be sued. In fact there has been cases where specific modding teams got sued and had to pay huge damage compensations. Do your research and you will see. It is definitely a crime. they are generating cyber-currency to make real money out of it without contributing to the offcial game company

yean but just cuz you can sue some one doesn't make it a cyber crime.

It is a crime and its actually serious. Also the modding itself is to a degree actually a crime. I had modders leaking my IP in game chat and ddosing me. Do you want to tell me now that this is also no cyber crime? Come on lets be real here. No way to talk these modders fine. They all deserve the worst

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since IPs are public knowledge no you aren't committing a crime by posting an ip... anywhere.

[Viperstar]

Origineel geplaatst door Zero McDol:

I have no respect for any cheaters using mod menu's nor the modders that make them. As far as I'm concerned, they (modders making Online menu's) should get sued.

Disclaimer: By modders I mean the modders making GTA Online mod menu's, not the modders making mods or cheats for -> Offline story mode use <-.

I totally agree!

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after searching to see if any laws have changed im 100% certain none of what you listed is actually a crime.

[Alun1]

Origineel geplaatst door Fives5555:

I know you deleted the other discussion.

he didn't, it was deleted by Valve moderators and he had a 24hr ban for it

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cyber crime lol, not yet it isn't. it volates the eula and thats about it but eula's are a subject of debate on their legitimacy. not that i condone cheating... but its not a cyber crime.

I would never take legal advice from someone who has not spent over 400 hours of studying law.

Ignorance is a fools mans card and will not be taken lightly upon people who know the law, its called electronic harassment, electronic wire fraud, basically a transaction crime like writing fraudulently type of checks or printing fake money. When anyone intentionally damage's any company by any means of malice code or violate copyright laws, or even damages anyone's electronic device(conspiracy to commit murder) the whole law about fair usage is not going to save anyone profiting off a product they do not own, they will have to keep running for their freedom to avoid paying restitution or worst fates.

When anyone hacks, you would really wonder what will happen if you enter a country that will enforce the law upon your past actions.

When viewed cheating at an online game in the perspective based on human psychology studies.
The average cheater fits the psychological profile of a child predator, while trying to abuse as many people they can.

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Origineel geplaatst door A҉2҉D҉3҉R҉S҉0҉N҉:

Origineel geplaatst door -iD-:

cyber crime lol, not yet it isn't. it volates the eula and thats about it but eula's are a subject of debate on their legitimacy. not that i condone cheating... but its not a cyber crime.

I would never take legal advice from someone who has not spent over 400 hours of studying law.

Ignorance is a fools mans card and will not be taken lightly upon people who know the law, its call electronic harassment, electronic wire fraud, basically a transaction crime like writing fraudulently type of checks or printing fake money. When anyone intentionally damage's any company by any means of malice code or violate copyright laws, or even damages anyone's electronic device(conspiracy to commit murder) the whole law about fair usage is not going to save anyone profiting off a product they do not own, they will have to keep running for their freedom to avoid paying restitution or worst fates.

When anyone hacks, you would really wonder what will happen if you enter a country that will enforce the law upon your past actions.

When viewed cheating at an online game in the perspective based on human psychology studies.
The average cheater fits the psychological profile of a child predator, while trying to abuse as many people they can.

i can google is cheating a crime and the first results that come up say no. so take whatever advice you want. if you want to say its a crime then show me the law.

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Origineel geplaatst door A҉2҉D҉3҉R҉S҉0҉N҉:

I would never take legal advice from someone who has not spent over 400 hours of studying law.

Ignorance is a fools mans card and will not be taken lightly upon people who know the law, its call electronic harassment, electronic wire fraud, basically a transaction crime like writing fraudulently type of checks or printing fake money. When anyone intentionally damage's any company by any means of malice code or violate copyright laws, or even damages anyone's electronic device(conspiracy to commit murder) the whole law about fair usage is not going to save anyone profiting off a product they do not own, they will have to keep running for their freedom to avoid paying restitution or worst fates.

When anyone hacks, you would really wonder what will happen if you enter a country that will enforce the law upon your past actions.

When viewed cheating at an online game in the perspective based on human psychology studies.
The average cheater fits the psychological profile of a child predator, while trying to abuse as many people they can.

i can google is cheating a crime and the first results that come up say no. so take whatever advice you want. if you want to say its a crime then show me the law.

in an online game..... your wrong you did not read legal documentation while spreading lies, your a hoaxer who refuses to read.........................

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Origineel geplaatst door A҉2҉D҉3҉R҉S҉0҉N҉:

Origineel geplaatst door -iD-:

i can google is cheating a crime and the first results that come up say no. so take whatever advice you want. if you want to say its a crime then show me the law.

in an online game..... your wrong you did not read legal documentation while spreading lies, your a hoaxer who refuses to read.........................

first result:
"For most of the Americas and Europe, there are no federal laws against cheating in standard online matchmaking."

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Origineel geplaatst door A҉2҉D҉3҉R҉S҉0҉N҉:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030

thats for selling copy written material, where does it say cheating is a crime.

[Chris Tohsaka]

Or sue a AAA company that can't even fix there own damm game.
Or much better, don't waste your money on their game, and they might learn how to run a proper game.