There is no good modder. All modders deserve a ban and mod makers even to get sued in real life

[Viperstar]

First of all, modding itself is not allowed. Its against the ingame policy. Everybody that is doing so is doing a cyber crime. it does not matter to what degree you abuse those mods. The moment you got mods injected inside GTAO you are doing something illegal. Even if your intention would be to do something good with the mods, you are still a "bad guy" since you violate terms. Also doing something good with mods is a matter of perspective. It is always the ones that claim to use mods against griefers, while they obliterate the whole lobby in the meantime. But its okay from their modding narcissist perspective, because they "just" killed griefers. Not that I am a grifer and I want to go on a rant against modders. That is not my point here. My point is that the grifer is doing allowed acts. The act of griefing another dudes cargo is just a game design. The griefer is doing so on normal activities, while the modder is doing illegal activities. So the griefer is actually the good one and the modder the bad one. Hate or love it. The point is that there is this type of wanna be "hero" modders out there that weight the griefers worse than their actual abuse of modding. Who might be good modders, you may ask yourself? Those that drop money to others or doing a money service, while the legit player farms hours to get even close to this amount? Economically not really morallic. I could write more and more of these type of instances that get stated as good modding, but are in fact not really as "good" as being stated.

My next point goes to the guy from yesterday on threads, who is very likely a mod creators himself as he indirectly signaled.

His point was that mod creators are actually good persons. He claims mod makers are just doing side income.

Ok, but at what cost? You willing to sell mods to immature human beings that are ready to abuse mods to their own toxic use. Even if the modder himself is just being productive, its not as hes doing a good thing. The issue exactly starts at the mod maker. In fact, the mod maker is even doing a bigger damage to the game environment. If no mod maker would exist, no mod could be used. So R* if you really want to do something, don't make just ban waves, because moders will always come back. Keep erasing mod companies as you luckily already did with mod menus such as luna and so. Mod makers are the origin of the whole issue.

Actually, modding itself is a cyber delict, but can not really lead to huge consequences in real life rather than getting a ingame ban. However, doing a mod menu, abusing a mod menu for recovery services or selling mod menus is a huge crime with consequences in your real life. You can actually be sued for this. Depending on the damage you caused, you got to pay a damage compensation up to the values of even millions. So in fact, the mod maker is even worse than just the regual modder. Both however should be stopped and I write this because the modding became really worse. Every lobby has a modder that keeps messing with the whole lobby to a point where invite only sessions is the only escape. But here comes my question. Why do you play gta "online" if you are then going to a solo session? Then you could actually just play gta 5 with content mods and more additions and you would have more fun. Gta online excels with the multiplayer aspect so of course it should be played online. However, my suggestion to the modders is that they actually can mod as much they want to inside solo sessions. It would be still illegal, but at least they would not harm others with it. So modders, go to solo sessions. Or be adult and delet your modding tools and play legit!

[Fives5555]

Funny how you repost this dogwater post. I'm sure you are just a troll trying to siphon up attention.

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

Funny how you repost this.

If you could read, you would see that this is not a repost and has nothing in common with what I posted yesterday. Funny how you are still trying to get on my nerves. Did this post address you or why are you so attached to what I post? Are you a modder yourself? I am quite confused because I am pretty sure you are not really okay with my pov about modding. Yet you bring nothing of any value to the table. If you want to say something productive then do it rather than doing irrational reports on me as you did yesterday

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

Funny how you repost this dogwater post. I'm sure you are just a troll trying to siphon up attention.

I find it quite interesting how you edit your post now. Everyone can see what you wrote before and see what you corrected. In fact you corrected it now with harassment included and false accusations.

I find it also funny how you are offending with "dogwater post". You are really emotionally unstable for just a random guy inside the threads. My post about modders seem to address you. Also nice gaslighting here. I am not making this for attention. However, you seek my attention undeniably.

Until now I didn't offend you even once, yet this is now your third post related to me with you being extremely hostile for zero reasons. Something is either really weird with you or you are addressed with the modding pov.

[Fives5555]

How ironic that you're playing the victim here. You seem to be forgetting the fact that you messaged me in the previous discussion, calling me a modder for just questioning you. A. I am not a modder, and B. You started the hostility. I am just reciprocating it back at you.

[Fives5555]

I know you deleted the other discussion. That is why I see no difference in the discussions. All I see is a wall of text saying blah blah blah modders harrassing me, blah blah blah blowing me up, blah blah blah modders need to get banned. We've ALL BEEN THERE! NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE! This is like that meme where that guy is complaining about stuff, and the other guy is sitting down all bloodied up.

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

How ironic that you're playing the victim here. You seem to be forgetting the fact that you messaged me in the previous discussion, calling me a modder for just questioning you. A. I am not a modder, and B. You started the hostility. I am just reciprocating it back at you.

Lmfao what? Okay this is gaslighting at its finnest. You are the one coming into this thread making false accusations about this being a repost. You edit then your posts and offending with dogwater, yet you want to tell me you are not the one to start this? You are actually a clown lol

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

I know you deleted the other discussion. That is why I see no difference in the discussions. All I see is a wall of text saying blah blah blah modders harrassing me, blah blah blah blowing me up, blah blah blah modders need to get banned.

Is this all you can do? Mocking me with wall of text and doing childish quotes? This is actually weak. Try better next time. You are beyond childish. There is actually no point in talking any further with you. You are just here to troll and this post you did is exactly exposing this

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

I know you deleted the other discussion. That is why I see no difference in the discussions. All I see is a wall of text saying blah blah blah modders harrassing me, blah blah blah blowing me up, blah blah blah modders need to get banned. We've ALL BEEN THERE! NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE! This is like that meme where that guy is complaining about stuff, and the other guy is sitting down all bloodied up.

Dude just stop here, you are making it worse lmfao. You post something, then as soon I expose it, you directly edit it. Like you gotta be really insecure to do this lol. You are just a troll that seeks my attention. Nothing more, nothing less

[Fives5555]

We are on the same side. You are just wasting your time posting this is all I am saying.

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

We are on the same side. You are just wasting your time posting this is all I am saying.

Who are you to judge about my time? I think actually you start to waste mine, so I gotta stop here

[firestorm]

Originally posted by Fives5555:

How ironic that you're playing the victim here. You seem to be forgetting the fact that you messaged me in the previous discussion, calling me a modder for just questioning you. A. I am not a modder, and B. You started the hostility. I am just reciprocating it back at you.

Say something about invite only sessions to him, been there done that!
Same results... lol enjoy the points.

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by firestorm:

Originally posted by Fives5555:

How ironic that you're playing the victim here. You seem to be forgetting the fact that you messaged me in the previous discussion, calling me a modder for just questioning you. A. I am not a modder, and B. You started the hostility. I am just reciprocating it back at you.

Say something about invite only sessions to him, been there done that!
Same results... lol enjoy the points.

You basically feed the troll with points. Impressive!

Also to you, I suggest you to read the threads. Because this would also answer your childish third person singular adress. There is a reason why I write all this, it is not just to waste my time. This is actually to start a discussion about modders, but somehow you come to this thread to make some argue out of it. I want to remind you that you came to my threads and started mocking me, then you are even this sad to make irrational reports with false informations. Whatever, here is what I said to invite only sessions and I wont repeat myself on what I already said, just because you can't read.

Every lobby has a modder that keeps messing with the whole lobby to a point where invite only sessions is the only escape. But here comes my question. Why do you play gta "online" if you are then going to a solo session? Then you could actually just play gta 5 with content mods and more additions and you would have more fun. Gta online excels with the multiplayer aspect so of course it should be played online. However, my suggestion to the modders is that they actually can mod as much they want to inside solo sessions. It would be still illegal, but at least they would not harm others with it. So modders, go to solo sessions. Or be adult and delet your modding tools and play legit!

[firestorm]

Originally posted by Viperstar:

You basically feed the troll with points. Impressive!

What you mean, I've given you none!
600 to someone else, but you 0. lol

[Viperstar]

Originally posted by firestorm:

Originally posted by Viperstar:

You basically feed the troll with points. Impressive!

What you mean, I've given you none!
600 to someone else, but you 0. lol

Are you done with the mocking? Until now you provided also nothing of any value to the table of discussion. Just do me a favor, touch some grass. You clearly had enough internet for today

[Fives5555]

Originally posted by Viperstar:

Originally posted by firestorm:

What you mean, I've given you none!
600 to someone else, but you 0. lol

Are you done with the mocking? Until now you provided also nothing of any value to the table of discussion. Just do me a favor, touch some grass. You clearly had enough internet for today

Take your own advice then.